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How Can America “Thrive” with a Liar and Fraudster in the Office of the Presidency?
The Post and Email Blog ^ | Jan. 13, 2011 | Comment Left by a Reader

Posted on 01/13/2011 10:16:28 AM PST by DontTreadOnMe2009

CBS News allowed the following comment to be published on its website, following an article about Obama’s visit to Arizona yesterday:

... Who were the doctor(s) and nurse(s) at Kapi`Olani that delivered Barack? My ex-wife worked at the hospital and I understand the records at Kapi’Olani are impeccable. Where are the foot prints? What public records exist that can even demonstrate that Mrs. Obama was even at Kapi’Olani on the day of Barack’s birth? Talk at Kapi`Olani, would have been unabashed, the city of Honolulu at the time very racist towards black people.

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To: butterdezillion
You are obviously not familiar with title 10 of the U.S. Code. It is the statutory law that governs the Armed Forces. The statutory scheme which governs the Armed Forces has been around for over 2 centuries. Judge Lind in her ruling followed the statutory and case law in the matter. Her ruling was completely based upon both. And no, under Judge Lind's ruling, a Brigade Commander can not order order an invasion of North Korea. I don't see how you get anything of the sort from reading her ruling.
381 posted on 01/13/2011 8:46:00 PM PST by TNTNT
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To: TNTNT

What was your previous ID on FR?


382 posted on 01/13/2011 8:48:23 PM PST by Brown Deer (Pray for Obama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: butterdezillion

Yes, a doctor of an adult would have access to records back to birth (hospital records) IF the patient never moved and the doctor were on staff at the birth hospital. This is, of course, uncommon.

Physicians may destroy records 7 years after last visit, hospitals, 25 years after last service. Each state sets it’s own rules, but that is a model Federal statute which most states follow.

I am nearly certain that there are no records in Hawaii (hospital or doctor records, I mean) pertaining to Stanley Ann or Barry from 1961. I’ve explained why I don’t find it remarkable that no one remembers, but don’t have too many takers.


383 posted on 01/13/2011 8:50:20 PM PST by Jim Noble
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To: Red Steel

It is obvious you cannot comprehend what Levin was talking about. Where did he say you need 2 citizen-parents to be a NBC? He doesn’t. It’s getting late, good bye.


384 posted on 01/13/2011 8:50:50 PM PST by TNTNT
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To: TNTNT

You are one dumb DUmmie Democrat.


385 posted on 01/13/2011 8:51:44 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: Brown Deer

Never been on FR before, why?


386 posted on 01/13/2011 8:52:45 PM PST by TNTNT
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To: Red Steel

LOL!


387 posted on 01/13/2011 8:56:14 PM PST by melancholy (It ain't Camelot, it's Scam-a-lot!)
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To: Hotlanta Mike

I’ve tried to ask economics/finance people that question and what I derive from their answers is that Soros can only exploit economies that are not fiscally sound, so ultimately we need to get rid of our huge debt. And stuff like stopping to monetize bad loans, stopping the (oh shoot I can’t remember the language and my husband has loud guitar music playing in my ears. lol) hm.. derivatives? Is that basically buying shares in the odds of something happening?

There was somebody who wrote a book about how to stop financial terrorism. I remember seeing a thread about it here and have intended to find out what that was. I’m a financial moron so I’m not sure how much of it I would understand, but I think if we’re gonna get the country back to how it should be somebody has to figure out how to reduce our economic vulnerability, or else we are putty in the hands of whoever has the audacity to hold us hostage.

Did you notice how Obama said that Congress was holding the country hostage? The dems ALWAYS project onto somebody else exactly what they are doing. Always.

I think Soros lit a fire under GW to push TARP because he knew that he needed to further destabilize the US economy and make it even more vulnerable if he was to retain his ability to threaten collapse. If the conservatives we elected in the House can control the purse-strings and defund, defund, defund so we get some sense back in our fiscal house maybe there’s hope yet.

Although it sounds to my financially clueless brain like Soros is working on toppling the dollar so if that happens before we can stabilize our debt situation it’ll be really bad. Maybe somebody can tell me if I’m misunderstanding that.

I’m nervous about the Hollister case tomorrow. I think the person to watch is Roberts; I think he’s the holdout. I’d actually like Congress to bring up the question of whether to impeach Sotomayor and Kagan if they refuse to recuse themselves on these cases where they have a blatant, glaring financial and personal conflict of interest.


388 posted on 01/13/2011 8:58:48 PM PST by butterdezillion
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To: Brown Deer
What was your previous ID on FR?

Another question for the dud bomb is what's your DailyKook or DUmmie, or HuffPo ID?

389 posted on 01/13/2011 8:58:57 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: Jim Noble

Would the doctor of an adult be able to get medical transcripts going back to birth by requesting them from the hospital of birth, or by getting the confidential medical portion of a birth certificate somewhere?

Have you ever worked at a smaller hospital? From what I’ve heard from asking around, some of the smaller hospitals keep records longer. I don’t know how large Kapiolani is so I don’t know if there’d be any chance of records from 1961.

But I’m almost certain that he was not born in a Hawaii hospital. If he had been there would have been no need for him to do a major amendment on his BC in 2006.

And there wouldn’t have to be this big mess with a signed letter from Obama on White House stationary with seal, with Obama allegedly saying he was born there.... but Kapiolani saying they can’t say if he was or wasn’t born there, and Obama refusing to say whether the letter was really from him or was a forgery by either Kapiolani or Abercrombie. What a mess. They want to claim that Obama said he was born there, but if they acknowledge that he said it then they have no reason not to confirm (if possible) whether he was or wasn’t born there. The end of it all is that Obama, Kapiolani, and Abercrombie all want to have their cake and eat it too - get the benefits of claiming Obama was born there but never have to do anything LEGAL that says he was born there.

That modus operandi (operandus? singular?) of never wanting to legally validate the verbalized claims gets real old real fast. Like nailing down jello, and there’s no reason for them to be that way if everything is on the up and up.

I agree with you that a doctor wouldn’t necessarily remember such a birth, based on my own poor memory of one-time facts. If the privacy part of HIPAA started in 2003, that was before Obama was widely known in the USA so by the time a doctor might have been curious enough to check out the records, if there were any, he’d be blocked from access.

But I also don’t think there’s a Hawaii doctor who attended the birth. From what the HDOH has said, I suspect that he didn’t even have a complete BC from Hawaii until he amended it by adding the missing required information in 2006.


390 posted on 01/13/2011 9:20:26 PM PST by butterdezillion
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To: little jeremiah

“And - those conservatives who have courage - if they speak up and speak out, and act on their convictions, will destroy the power of the MSM/leftist mafia. The MSM/leftist mafia have power because conservatives have abdicated. Conservatives (what to speak of RINOs) acting like scared little neutered bunny rabbits has emboldened the left. If one conservative speaks out, as you mentioned, they will do everything in their power to destroy that person.”

I could be wrong, lg, but I have an idea that the MSM are at heart a bunch of cowardly bullies. Fear and submission emboldens them, and when they get get a Republican on the ropes, they swarm like mindless sharks in a feeding frenzy.

For example, when they moved in for the ‘macama’ kill, George Allen panicked, groveled and apologized abjectly. The media reacted like blood-frenzied animals, and tore into him with ever more merciless and shameless viciousnes. It was grotesque.

But what if he had come out swinging? What if he’d mocked and ridiculed the press, and told them ‘macaca’ was just an off-the-cuff word that had no racial overtones? What if he’d called THEM racist for seeing it where none was intended? What if he’d told them to be ashamed of themselves, for trying to take the focus off the issues and put it on one minor, meaningless little word?

Since it was a [trumped up] racial situation, they would probably have held on as if their lives depended on it. BUT, I think the voters would have seen through them, and Allen might just have retained the seat.

Otoh, look at one of the few examples where a Republican DID stand up to the yapping loonies in the MSM. McCain, of all people, was in the process of being painted as a mentally unstable warmonger for his highly entertaining rendition of ‘Bomb bomb bomb, bomb bomb Iran’. If he’d groveled, they’d have destroyed him even more relentlessly than his own inept campaign managed to do.

But he mocked them. He told them they were silly and absurd and lacking all sense of humor. He gave them, if we’re still allowed to stay this, both verbal barrels.

And they slunk off like humiliated dogs, with their tails between their legs. They dropped their idiotic attack once and for all, and NEVER alluded to it again.

Why more Republicans don’t fight back is beyond me. It is their only chance. But given a choice, they go the George Allen route...with predictable results. Sigh.


391 posted on 01/13/2011 9:20:53 PM PST by Fantasywriter
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To: butterdezillion

What a beautiful, eloquent and powerful post. Wow; I wish there was a Freeper Hall of Fame for great posts: I would nominate this one.

Butter, I don’t have time to reply to the magnificent points you made, I regret to say. I will just say this. Obots, Dems and trolls, look at this post. This is what it’s all about. This is why we’re going to win. We are fighting for the heart of this great nation, and as long as patriots like Butter are in our corner, victory is a foregone conclusion.

You people are fighting not for America as she was founded, but for a weaseling Marxist narcissist. He is a petty man, yet he is destroying this singularly great Republic from within. And you trolls dare to come to FR and try to prop him up. Well just read this post, and get a glimpse of what a true patriot looks like. You trolls and the small man you support are doomed; you just don’t know it yet. The battle is not to the mean, the rude, the conniving and the shameless; it is to those who know the full value of what we’re fighting for. And that is the patriots—not the Obamabots.

Bravo, Butter. Thanks for putting such sentiments out for all to see. Your post is a rallying cry. Thanks for all you do, and please, keep up the good work.


392 posted on 01/13/2011 9:30:53 PM PST by Fantasywriter
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To: Fantasywriter

Yes, you can see the MSM lying all over the news spectrum reporting untrue stories from A to Z against Conservatives. From the silly ‘macaca’ charge against George Allen to today’s absurd story that Jared Loughner is a tea party conservative who was motivated by talk radio and Palin to murder people. If they can blatantly lie all the time about these stories in your face, you can bet the world that they are easily lying about Obama’s hidden past. Posters like Dembot TNTNT are part of the same bandwagon.


393 posted on 01/13/2011 9:36:36 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: jamese777; DontTreadOnMe2009
Hey miss jamese, haven't we just heard this same of your talking point from someone else recently, hmmmm???

“I may be the only person left who specifically remembers his birth.

394 posted on 01/14/2011 12:09:56 AM PST by danamco (')
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To: DontTreadOnMe2009
Snarling, angry OBOTS in at the 6 minute mark

and again at the 13 minute mark !!!

It never fails!

You can expect the FINOs come to the surface like hungry prairie dogs when the signal sounds!!

That's what they are paid for and they have a special "mission" and agenda (never let a crisis go to waste) to shut you down, like the FINO's and the student's when their Fuehrer "speaks" such as last night in AZ!!!

395 posted on 01/14/2011 12:22:17 AM PST by danamco (')
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To: DontTreadOnMe2009; Munz
Also yesterday Rush was referring to Clyburn as mentioning the outcry from the galley when the Constitution was read. A caller came on trying to clarify what really happened, and Rush immediately changed subject and never touched it again!!!

It's like a taboo issue on the airways???

396 posted on 01/14/2011 12:43:27 AM PST by danamco (')
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To: Red Steel; Tublecane; Fantasywriter; little jeremiah

Miss WKA, Old tired!!!


397 posted on 01/14/2011 12:46:42 AM PST by danamco (')
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To: Springfield Reformer; Red Steel
That is why our author is rightly implying oddity that the story is missing. Compare this with the nativity stories of Washington, Lincoln, Kennedy, Reagan, etc. The principle carriers of the stories are not the birth records but the people surrounding the event, who were able to release that memory to the public domain once the significance of the individual was realized.

No, there is something odd here, something missing, and it cannot be dismissed by the abandonment of logic or traditional methods of historical discovery. Oral tradition is important, and at present is no friend of the President's official narrative.

Good, common-sense summary.

398 posted on 01/14/2011 12:53:06 AM PST by thecodont
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To: Tex-Con-Man; DontTreadOnMe2009
Well he was in a real hurry to sign on to Res.511 by then silenced McPain for asking, hmmmm???

Something also called the Race Card!!!

399 posted on 01/14/2011 12:55:33 AM PST by danamco (')
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To: surrey; Tublecane

My youngest daughter was born in 1961 and my late wife was sharing room with three other mothers, and they would stay in touch with one another for a while after leaving the clinic!!!


400 posted on 01/14/2011 1:22:53 AM PST by danamco (')
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