Posted on 01/13/2011 10:16:28 AM PST by DontTreadOnMe2009
CBS News allowed the following comment to be published on its website, following an article about Obama’s visit to Arizona yesterday:
... Who were the doctor(s) and nurse(s) at Kapi`Olani that delivered Barack? My ex-wife worked at the hospital and I understand the records at Kapi’Olani are impeccable. Where are the foot prints? What public records exist that can even demonstrate that Mrs. Obama was even at Kapi’Olani on the day of Barack’s birth? Talk at Kapi`Olani, would have been unabashed, the city of Honolulu at the time very racist towards black people.
(Excerpt) Read more at thepostemail.com ...
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A white mother delivering a black baby back then would have stuck out in people’s minds.
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“Normal people on FR just avoid topics that hold no interest for them or that they consider dead ends”
True. Normal people also don’t expect internet forums to be echo chambers, no matter how divisive the subject matter. See, for instance, any number of FR’s recurring hopeless divisions and controversial topics. Why do Romneybots and Palinbots insist on going at it? Why don’t atheists and Christians stay away from eachother? What’s the point in having Austrians and the Chicago School, Lost Causers and Union men, or “social” conservatives and libertarians on the same threads? Because argument carries its own justification. Argument for the sake of argument!
“It is therefore quite - odd - that people who claim to have no interest in 0h0m0’s eligibility or claim to think it’s a dead end still insist on posting nonsense on these threads.
Very odd.”
That first claim sounds oddly self-serving for your side, but nevermind. Let’s assume those claims are made from time to time. There are countervailing claims. For instance, argument for argument’s sake. Also, that just because you can’t be convinced doesn’t mean that you should be allowed to monopolize the issue at FR. After all, we sometimes go to DU and HuffPo, don’t we? Speaking of which, there’s the outside world to think of. We don’t want birtherism and conservatism to be synonymous.
Finally, there’s the simple fact that we see the articles, click on them, nad respond to that with which we disagree rather mechanically sometimes. I, for one, don’t seekl birther threads out. They’re just always there.
“NS was baited into a thread posted by JR where the poster who laid the bait knew NS would stumble and bumble his way - that he could not keep his liberal-DU mouth shut. So goodbye NS”
Could you be a bit vaguer, please?
I think everyone thinks a memory would be stirred because this wasn’t a blue eyed blonde baby born to two Caucasian parents. If there were so few blacks in Hawaii at the time it would reinforce that memory.
Also, weren’t there articles in the Hawaii papers about this black man, from Kenya, studying at the university?
He just wants to deflect.
Of course he’s failing.
Just letting you know I don’t read comments by 0h0m0 supporters. I read your initial posts to me, but not the one I’m replying to, nor any subsequent ones.
My human life is too valuable to waste by reading propaganda nonsense from 0h0m0 toadies.
You’re very welcome.
In these many and long threads in the past two years, I never once get an answer to my simple questions about Lincoln’s incarnation, the All-American, the awesome brilliant messiah, our one and only president-for-life, the new founding father, Barack Hussein 0liar’s hidden education records and if any of his defenders has any curiosity to find out.
Even curiosity isn’t curious!
Geez, now, to obey FReeper etiquette I have to ping curiosity itself, the person that is! LOL
See what I got myself into?
“Cut the CRAP!”
You cut it. I asked you what fraud, but if you could follow the conversation, you’d realize I was asking for what fraud Obama is accused of NOW. Not what he could possibly be accused of when and if it turns out he’s ineligible.
“It’s only ‘off subject’ because you do not want to deal with the subject.”
You may at some point have invented your own subject, but if you’d be so kind as to go to the transcript, you’d see I’ve been on one track. Obama is not under the same compulsion to offer exculpatory evidence as is a criminal defendant. Because he is not a criminal defendant. If you want to make another argument, go ahead. But leave me out of it.
For your edification, here is the track:
Post #23 by Logical me: “This communists piece of garbage is not an American. He refuses to provide proof because he is not native born. If I were accused of a crime that I did not commit and had proof would I not show proof? Simple answer. Yes I would and it would be my personal responsibility to do so as a real moral person.”
To which I replied in Post #53: “What crime is Obama accused of committing?” Suggesting, if you can follow, that since Obama is, as we all know, not being (officially) accused of a crime, he is not in the same situation as the hypothetical defendant.
Despite your all-caps “crap,” I do believe the record shows it is you who went “off subject,” and that I was not only right but commendably responsible for not allowing the original argument to be totally lost in the haze.
Obama has lived for almost 50 years without leaving any footprints — none! There is no Obama documentation — no bona fides — no paper trail — nothing.
Original, vault copy birth certificate — Not released (lawyers’ fees greater than $2,000,000 ~ birth certificate is $15)
Certification of Live Birth — Released — Counterfeit
Amended Certification of Live Birth — Released — Counterfeit
Obama/Dunham marriage license — Not released (if one exists)
Obama/Dunham divorce — Released (by independent investigators)
Noelani Kindergarten records — Records lost (this is a big one — read two frames)
Soetoro/Dunham marriage license — Not released
Soetoro adoption records — Not released
Fransiskus Assisi School School application — Released (by independent investigators)
Punahou School application — Missing
Punahou School records — Not released
Noelani 3rd Grade records — Not released
Soetoro/Dunham divorce — Released (by independent investigators)
Selective Service Registration — Released — Under suspicion
Social Security Number — Released (by independent investigators) — Under suspicion
Occidental College records — Not released
Financial Aid Records — Not released
Passport — Not released and records scrubbed clean by Obama’s terrorism and intelligence adviser
Columbia College records — Not released
Columbia thesis — “Soviet Nuclear Disarmament” — Not released
Harvard College records — Not released
Harvard Law Review articles — None
Illinois Bar Records — Not released
Baptism certificate — None
Medical records — Not released — nor is the source of this nasty scar
Illinois State Senate records — None
Illinois State Senate schedule — Lost
Law practice client list — Not released
University of Chicago scholarly articles — None
White House Visitors list — The complete list
The Blagojevich Interview — judge denies access to the FBI report
The Illinois State Archives told Judicial Watch that they never received any request from Senator Obama to archive any records in his possession. In 2007, Obama told Tim Russert that his records were “not kept.”
“Just letting you know I don’t read comments by 0h0m0 supporters.”
Right. Your opinions are so solid and true that no honest man could possibly argue with them. Everyone who disagrees with you is a spy, a cynic, a liar, a fraud. And a bad dresser.
you’d realize I was asking for what fraud Obama is accused of NOW
Like most here on FR, I'm pretty reasonably well informed. I know that there is no official legal accusation of fraud against Obama. So does everyone else.
I AM ACCUSING HIM OF FRAUD. Is that okay with you, Pal? In fact, I said as much in my first post on this thread which was to you incidentally.
Apologize, or get yourself banned. Your choice.
ML/NJ
I mean no disrespect, but you don’t sound like you’ve much experience inside a courtroom. There is such a thing as negative evidence, and while arguing from silence may be a second-rate way to prove a point from the perspective of a purist logician, it works quite well in a court of law:
“Often, counsel must prove that a given event did not occur or that a particular sound was not made or heard. Where the attending circumstances show that it has probative force that it is relevant and material evidence proving that an event did not occur is admissible and may often have a devastating effect on the case. This is ‘negative evidence.’”
See http://www.tlrcblog.com/2006/10/articles/questioning/using-negative-evidence-as-a-positive-approach/
Therefore, as the lack of evidence for a claimed event may work as affirmative evidence that said event did not occur, the problem still falls under the rubric of circumstantial evidence and any reasonable juror is entitled to draw all reasonable inferences from the totality of the facts, whether those facts are positive or negative. Sorry.
Boston Globe?
Is that your final answer?
Or would you like to phone a friend?
Allow ourselves to concede the point that our putative POTUS was in fact born in Hawaii to Barack Hussein Obama and Stanley Ann Dunham as he claims.
If you recall the Senate put itself on record in 2008 with their special commission on which Obama and Hillary were both serving. During the term of this commission Obama tried but failed to get himself included in the non-binding resolution ultimately that was issued.
Flashback...
The Senate defined “natural born Citizen” in 2008, and Obama didn’t qualify
DEMOCRAT SENATOR PATRICK LEAHY AND OTHERS “RESOLVED” THAT IT TOOK TWO CITIZEN PARENTS TO BE A “NATURAL BORN CITIZEN”
Therefore someone should confront the members of that commission, or Sen. Leahy in particular, to provide an answer as to why the putative POTUS is constitutionally eligible to hold office when the commission in fact made a statement on record that Natural Born requires 2 citizen parents regardless of birth place. So where are Obama’s 2 citizen parents?
See post 277 Con-Man.
I wish we could prove this:
Babalu Blog: Is Obama Cuban? (Unverified, unattributed)Nov 3, 2008 ... When Ann left Cuba in Dec 1960, she was 2 months pregnant. ... lo que nos hacia falta...his mother’s name was Stanley Ann DUNHAM. ...
www.babalublog.com/archives/010416.html - Cached - Similar
SPECIAL REPORT: Obama’s Hidden Links | Opinion MakerWMR has learned from a reliable source that Obama’s grandfather, Stanley Dunham, had traveled to Cuba in 1960 on CIA business with Obama’s mother, Ann ...
www.opinion-maker.org/2010/.../special-report-obamas-hidden-links/ - Cached
You can look it up for yourself. Ok, I'll help some. It is either this thread below or its other companion thread. A JimRob thread discussing the same issues about conservatism. NS and his immoral mouth got him zotted. Non-Sequitur was an all around DU troll. He never knew when to shut his DUmmie mouth since he always wanted the last word. NS even got a warming. He was cocky and thought he was an immortal FR troll - nope.
Titled: "If you support the homosexual agenda you are anti-Constitution and you'll get the zot from FR!"
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2644629/posts
You'll be looking for this NS zot post and the ones before it. Hee.
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