As for Ulsterman and Welshman (AGM). I guess this proves they are not the same person because they are in different countries. [Slapping my head] I was soooooo wrong. /MAJOR sarcasm.
Posted on 11/29/2010 3:41:40 PM PST by bilhosty
The first part of our most recent D.C. Insider interview reflects on just how far the media went to protect and promote Barack Obama during the 2008 campaign, including helping secure John McCain as Obama’s Republican opponent.
As for Ulsterman and Welshman (AGM). I guess this proves they are not the same person because they are in different countries. [Slapping my head] I was soooooo wrong. /MAJOR sarcasm.
This story is a lot like fantasy football for political junkies. It is like war-gaming at the Pentagon.
Ulsterman is facilitating a high-level mental simulation which anticipates what the strategy and tactics of disaffected Hillary supporting Democrats will be in the immediate 2011 time-frame leading up to the Democratic primaries.
I am very interested in what these disaffected, highly placed officials may be thinking as they contemplate Obama’s total destruction of the Democrat Party brand and their careers.
Whether WHI is real or not is secondary to the fact that conservatives absolutely must be conducting the same mental simulation being presented by UM so that they can anticipate what attacks to expect both against Obama and conservatives from these Hillary backers.
I, personally, find credible the WHI prediction not just of speculation regarding a Hillary run in 2012, but of an immanent announcement of a Hillary trial balloon. Within two days, Bob Woodard floated that balloon saying that high level Democrats were behind it, just as Ulsterman/WHI said.
In this current UM/WHI installment, we have a crucial disclosure and discussion of how the Obama campaign deliberately directed the compliant MSM to throw the GOP nomination to McCain because Obama was most confident that he could beat McCain. I am eagerly awaiting part II of this latest UM/WHI installment because it will "war-game" for conservatives a hypothetical attempt in 2011-2012 by the Obama campaign to chose who the GOP candidate will be.
The obvious choice, from public boasting by the Dems, is that they are eager to run against Sarah Palin because with her high "negatives" she will be easiest to beat in all of their public declarations. I believe that this confidence by the Dems has been shaken by Palin's Phoenix-like rise from the nuclear destruction visited on her from both the RINO and Dem camps.
I can't wait so see the spin that UM/WHI will put on WHI's supposed revelations regarding how Plouffe will enlist what is left of Obama's MSM support to push the GOP to nominate a particular candidate! Conservatives must be anticipating and war-gaming these scenarios with or without UM/WHI and whether or not UM/WHI is "real" or a composite.
“Whether WHI is real or not is secondary ...”
Your position is absolutely baffling ... (didn’t AGM say something similar?)
With all the evidence presented to the contrary, now we have this:
http://ulster-man.blogspot.com/
To put it mildly, “fake but accurate” Dan-Ratheresque reporting is frowned upon around here.
Put it to rest.
AGM/UM has distracted me long enough; it is time to move on. It doesn’t mean I will stop monitoring, LOL!
Yeah, me too, but I don’t think we’ve heard the last from UM, WHI, or his promoters.
‘til then ...
This situation is absolutely _not_ analogous to the Dan Rather forgery. UM/WHI, IMO is more analogous to Deep Throat where a senior CIA executive was conducting psy-ops against Nixon putting pressure on Nixon to make decisions favorable to Deep Throat.
AGM made a very rational and IMO correct statement in #49 in this thread
49 posted on Tuesday, November 30, 2010 6:14:46 PM by Protect the Bill of Rights
AGM:
“Actually, I said that if it turns out Ulsterman created WH insider in as a composite of several sources he knows inside the WH, then it doesn't matter as long as the substance of the CONTENT is true. So don't take what I said out of context.”
IMO it is a fact that lots of highly placed, Hillary sympathetic Democrats currently or recently in the Obama WH and administration are _extremely_ horrified by Obama’s unpresidential and dangerous behavior as CIC.
IMO it is a fact that lots of these folks are looking for a quick end to the Obama presidency even before the normal term of office and they are scheming to move Obama out of the way ASAP and move Hillary into the presidency in 2012 if not sooner with or without her direct involvement.
If these political operatives are real, and I believe they are whether UM is talking to one or not, conservatives must actively imagine what their tactics will be so as to be prepared to effectively counteract them.
The subject of the current UM/WHI installment is in effect “How the Obama team screwed the GOP into going with McCain”. That may not be news, but all conservatives must be keenly attuned to how both Obama and Hillary operatives _will_ try to subvert the GOP nominating process in 2012.
UM/WHI is facilitating that awareness and scenario gaming for the GOP, Hillary supporters and Obama defenders.
If WHI is real and conducting psy-ops against Obama to reduce Obama’s chances of being the 2012 nominee as he claims, GOP readers of UM should expect that WHI will also attempt psy-ops against the GOP to favor Hillary.
I can't wait to see who UM/WHI puts forward in the next installment of UM as the GOP candidate most likely to lose to either Obama or Hillary.
I suspect this is also how we got Bob Dole as a nominee...I like Bob Dole but felt he was a lousy candidate.
Its how we’re intended to get the Mittster as well.
Eight examples or more of fake sources aren’t enough for you, a Certified Fraud Examiner?
Stop it.
Imagine what the Clinton's could have done to sabotage the GOP if they had had the internet back then...
A trained CPA/CFE is keen on not leaping to conclusions either pro or con regarding “evidence.”
I do not believe that any of the “evidence” presented either by UM or against him rises to the level of conclusive.
I personally look forward to the next UM installment as having high value for campaign gaming at a minimum.
Your mileage may vary!
Don’t count on it.....if Sarah Palin is The Lord’s pick...the media outlets are toast in stopping her from being the nominee..
You’ve showed up here on the birther threads, promoted Madsen, Inspector Smith, et al, and now UM, hmmm ...
I’m out of here. I don’t want to be accused of feeding the trolls, (if that’s the case) or pimping pay-per-hit, unedited Newsflavor.
0bama won without a Ross Perot in the race.
See how I’ve moved on? :-)
(And don’t even get me started on Smith. Agree or disagree with my opinion (MAJOR FRAUD), no one can say my opinion was based on anything else but the facts I presented in my posts.)
I have never “promoted” Madsen. I may have commented on Madsen’s claims. Link please. I only searched Maden’s bio recently and found it very troubling with many red flags beginning with the fact that he is a “Red Diaper Baby.”
Prior to being zotted for several months for inviting further careful examination of a certain BC I could be accused of “promoting” examination of that BC, but I never once claimed that the BC was genuine or promoted the person who claims to have obtained it. It has always been my assertion that the evidence is not yet there to conclusively reject or accept that BC to my satisfaction. I believe that I was the first person to find the Wiki dual date format citation for Kenya (since erased by Obots except for the tell-tale purple Kenyan map).
To be clear I have not and do not “promote” the persons Madsen, Smith or UM. I am only interested in examining and discussing evidence.
Coming back to the subject of this thread, I want to see whether “WHI” claims that Palin is the candidate that Obama and/or Hillary would prefer to run against, or another candidate like Romney.
Just for the record, there are a number of rational freepers who consider the Smith Kenyan BC the least fraudulent of the lot. There is nothing about it which has been disproved, at least; unlike the COLB.
At this point, I don’t trust UM, WHI, or Baron.
But I’m nobody and my opinion isn’t worth much.
I just wanted to copy here a comment from an anonymous poster on this report, talking about supposed interactions with 0bama and Timmy Geitner when they were kids. Some of it sounds far-fetched, but who knows what a little research might turn up to see if any of these items can be corroborated. Posting here for posterity’s sake in case of memory-hole issues. Warning-Birther stuff ahead:
My lengthy comment was just destroyed by Internet Explorer so I’ll try again…
The first time I heard Barry’s many, many names was in 1970, iirc, from Timothy Geithner, himself. Tim and his sister Audie came to Decatur, IL with their mother to visit the home of her aunt and uncle on the lake to escape the oppressive heat of Indonesia. Audie Geithner attended the same school as Barry and knew Barry as a playmate on the school playground. Barry had undertaken strict Muslim studies in proper attire which took portions of every day precluding his attendance on the playground.
Tim seemed to have quite alot of information about Barry, regaling his sister with the pronunciation of Barry’s many, many names and informing her that, perhaps, Barry would not be returning to school in the fall if his mother’s plans to relocate him to HI to attend school and live with family came to fruition. Of course, Audie was disappointed by this news. The two children discussed why their father had resisted allowing them to visit the U.S. mainland for several weeks with their mother. It seems Geithner, Sr. told his wife that he didn’t want anything to go wrong with their plans and worried that something might happen which would jeopardize his plans, to which his wife reassured him her visit would do nothing to cause them problems. The two children opined as to exactly what plans their father spoke of and why their visit should present potential problems to their parents, particularly their father.
Until, Mrs. Geithner began loudly yelling at her children to STOP speaking about ‘you know who’ and marched them into their hosts’ home, continuing to loudly berate them for speaking of things which they were forbidden to speak of and asking over and over again why they had chosen to speak of the forbidden subject when they knew how important it was that they not talk about certain things, I hadn’t found their conversation that riveting.
In 1971, iirc, Barry came to Decatur, IL to visit an adult married male, his wife and two daughters who just happened to employ a school friend of mine as their daughters’ babysitter. Before Barry’s visit, Terry, the adult male spoke about Barry’s many attributes to my school friend building him up in her mind. Imagine how disappointed she became as his age changed from 16 years old to 13 to about 10 years old just before she met him. Although Barry was quite likeable, had a great smile and was a cute kid, he had a strange way of automatically announcing that he wanted to be president of the country someday even though he wasn’t born in this country. Later, he needed a birth certificate and Terry asked my friend how someone could get a SS# without a bc. She asked him why Barry didn’t have a bc, adn Terry said he didn’t know why, but Barry just didn’t have one. My friend consulted her older sister who was part of the war protest/doper/SDS crowd and someone came up with the information that Barry could get a SS# in CT without a bc, and even offered to allow him to use their mailing address or help out in any way needed now or in the future.
Imagine my chagrin to learn that Barack Hussein Obama (name missing many names given by Tim Geithner) was allowed to slip through the vetting process without raising flags in the press, our Congress or intel agencies. As I like to finish my recitation now, I ask how can it be in 2010 that someone can be allowed to become the leader of the free world when he cannot produce a long form birth certificate or any supporting documents to prove his past origins or personal history? And, how coincidental that Tim Geithner and his father had knowledge of Barry as SAD’s son during her days at the Ford Foundation in Indonesia, but Tim wasn’t willing to explain his link to Barry? I can only state for the record that I didn’t betray my government; my government betrayed me.
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