Mysterious missile launch most likely US Air flight 808

Island Turtle ^ | November 11, 2010 | Corky Boyd

[Corky Boyd]

Network news and the internet were abuzz with the report and video by Los Angeles CBS affiliate KCBS of a reported missile launch late Monday afternoon -- around 5 PM. Both the Air Force and the Navy denied they had any missiles launches at the time. According to CBS News the Defense Department remains baffled.

"Nobody within the Department of Defense that we've reached out to has been able to explain what this contrail is, where it came from," Pentagon spokesman Col. Dave Lapan said. "So far, we've come up empty with any explanation."

And they go on:

"The FAA told CBS News that they ran radar replays of a large area west of Los Angeles based on media reports of the location of a possible missile launch, but they did not reveal any fast moving unidentified targets in that area. The FAA also did not receive any reports of any unusual sightings from pilots in the area."

"The North American Aerospace Defense Command, or NORAD, issued a statement jointly with the U.S. Northern Command, or NORTHCOM, saying that the contrail was not the result of a foreign military launching a missile. It provided no further details."

A search for flights that could have left a contrail led me to US Air’s flight 808 from Honolulu to Phoenix. The flight took off from Honolulu at 10:06 AM HST, passed over Catalina Island at 5:03 PM PST....

[aruanan]

A search for flights that could have left a contrail led me to US Air’s flight 808 from Honolulu to Phoenix. The flight took off from Honolulu at 10:06 AM HST, passed over Catalina Island at 5:03 PM PST....

The flight of this was going from nearer the coast to farther from the coast and, when it neared the apogee of its flight, the combustion of the rocket engine was clearly visible. It was fire, not smoke and it was heading northwest, not southwest toward Phoenix.

[bmwcyle]

This is an complete lie.

[Mr. Quarterpanel]

My money is still on a “big ole jet airliner” contrail.

I live in West Florida, and I have seen enough Shuttle and Delta launches from the Cape to know the difference. The video clearly shows the smoke trail of a solid rocket booster. The close-ups show the exhaust flame and the trajectory is clearly vertical, arcing north and west.

A jet in that situation would be screaming "MAY DAY" on the emergency channel and demanding a straight in approach and a rollout of the fire trucks. Not buying it.

I think someone is pissing on our collective leg and telling us that it is raining.

[RayChuang88]

I ask one simple question: did we find the warhead explosion fragmentation pattern anywhere on TWA 800? If not, we can rule out a missile attack.

[arthurus]

I have never seen a contrail that looked remotely like that one except in films of missile firings or old films of JATO takeoffs but they didn’t last that long.

[arthurus]

Have you ever seen a contrail twist like that one?

[RayChuang88]

However, I still discount the rocket theory for two reasons, one very likely and one plausible:

1) Why is the contrail moving so slowly? If this was a real rocket contrail it would move REALLY fast from the sea level up and then disappear at around 100,000 feet.

2) The weather conditions at the time may have made it possible for that intense contrail. Remember, we just had some major storms go through California recently and with the higher humidity in the air, it makes the formation of thicker contrails possible at the altitude US Airways 808 was flying.

[arthurus]

Klingons.

[arthurus]

It is from the new Southern California undersea Airport that is designed to save space on shore.

[6SJ7]

US Air’s flight 808 from Honolulu to Phoenix, eh? I didn’t know US Air was running hypersonic suborbital shuttle flights. Cool!

[arthurus]

You were obviously looking at the thing from the other side because you describe it as the reverse of what the vid shows. Could you possibly put up that other video that was shot from that other angle?

[B212]

Contrails, are water condensation from internal combustion engines....normally form, above 20,000 feet for aircraft, or very cold days from automobile engines...

quote:

Condensation from engine exhaust

The main byproducts of hydrocarbon fuel combustion are carbon dioxide and water vapor. At high altitudes this water vapour emerges into a cold environment, and the local increase in water vapor can push the water content of the air past saturation point. The vapour then condenses into tiny water droplets and/or deposits into ice. These millions of tiny water droplets and/or ice crystals form the vapour trail or contrails. The vapor’s need to condense accounts for the contrail forming some way behind the aircraft’s engines. At high altitudes, supercooled water vapor requires a trigger to encourage deposition or condensation. The exhaust particles in the aircraft’s exhaust act as this trigger, causing the trapped vapor to rapidly turn to ice crystals. Exhaust vapour trails or contrails can only occur above 8000 meters (26,000 feet), and only if the temperature there is below -40°C (-40°F).[3]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Contrail

[rollo tomasi]

This explanation seems more plausible;

[B212]

The missile flight is similar to TWA 800 incident many years ago.....in this case, the missile missed the intended target...

[B212]

test

[rollo tomasi]

I took that same route/flight # from Phoenix-Hawaii and back again a couple of weeks ago.

The plane is a Boeing 757. Compare contrails in similar conditions and one could possibly get a match.

[McGruff]

An commercial airliner has four engines doesn't it? I see one contrial (or chemtrail [/tinfoil hat]). Nobody has come even close to making me believe this is not a LARGE missile launch.

[jazminerose]

Shep Smith was much too adamant & giddy yesterday, jumping up & down “It’s a plane!”

That’s what made me suspicious.

[jersey117]

They finally found a flight close enough to pin it on? B.S.

[djf]

No big deal.



It's just a weather balloon!