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Obama has no natural born right to be President. He is a squatter occupying the White House
A New Dictionary of the English language ^ | 1836 | James Richardson

Posted on 11/02/2010 6:06:02 PM PDT by bushpilot1

The purpose of this thread is an attempt to explain a natural born citizen.

Lets begin with the words of Vattel in 1758.."Les Naturels ou Indigènes font ceux qui font nés dans le pays, de parens citoyens" the natural born or natives are those born in a country whose parents are its citizens.

When the United States was formed..the natives or naturals were American or United States citizens. This established a family of Americans, a class of American citizens. A group of Soverign U.S. citizens.

There is a word I recently learned, it is called Kind. Kind as an adjective means natural or native.

Kind (natural-native) comes from the old english word gecynde which comes from the latin jure hereditario which means by hereditary right.

From the 1911 Encyclopedia Britannica: "KIND (O. E. ge-cynde, from the same root as is seen in “kin,” a word in origin meaning birth, nature, or as an adjective, natural. From the application of the term to the natural disposition or characteristic which marks the class to which an object belongs."


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What made me think of the word Kind..it came from the John Adams HBO series. Adams told the King we are related by Kindred blood. I saw the word Kin which we all knows means family..then I saw Kind in the definition. The dots are being connected.

There is an 1836 dictionary authored by James Richardson, born in 1776. Posted is the definition of Kind. You will see Kind with natural or native.

A natural born citizen is born from other members of its class..citizens of the United States. A natural born citizen cannot be spurious...born from US and foreign citizens.

A natural born citizen is born on the soil and born from the blood of Americans..born from the blood of United States citizens..a natural born citizens parents must be United States citizens...the son of a foreign citizen and/or British subject citizen cannot be President.

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1 posted on 11/02/2010 6:06:03 PM PDT by bushpilot1
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To: bushpilot1

ibtt?


2 posted on 11/02/2010 6:09:57 PM PDT by tutstar
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To: tutstar

YES!!


3 posted on 11/02/2010 6:10:36 PM PDT by tutstar
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To: bushpilot1

WOW!
This has never been covered before!

It’s truly new information! Just wow!


4 posted on 11/02/2010 6:17:56 PM PDT by humblegunner (Pablo is very wily)
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To: bushpilot1

Oh! Good Night!

Give up on Vattel!! For heavens sake!!

Taking a guy that has zero relevance on our constitution or our established precedence or case law is beyond belief

It should NOT take quoting Vattel for us to know that Obama needs to go.

Obama needs to go for:

1. Being a socialist
2. Being anti american
3. Being anti constitution
4. Being inept and lazy
5. Being dishonest

and so on...

so let us keep crackpot theories out of this.. please...

I can already think of 101 VALID reasons to dump Obamanation... I don’t need a fake fantasy reason....


5 posted on 11/02/2010 6:18:49 PM PDT by SoftwareEngineer
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To: SoftwareEngineer

he also needs to go because he’s spending 200 million $$’s a day in India on his upcoming trip


6 posted on 11/02/2010 6:20:56 PM PDT by MissDairyGoodnessVT (No more oil change for you and no more TIME Magazine covers =^..^=)
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To: SoftwareEngineer
so let us keep crackpot theories out of this.. please...

The crackpots here stick their heads in the dirt.

If Tom Tancredo wins in Colorado for Gov, he will ask for Obama's BC to see if he is eligible to be put on ballot in 2012.

If Nathan Deal wins the governorship in Georgia, the only Congressman who sent a letter to Obama asking him to prove his eligibility, he will likely ask Obama about his NBC status again to see if he is eligible be put on the 2012 presidential ballot.

7 posted on 11/02/2010 6:27:23 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: bushpilot1

TY for posting this, screw the naysayers.


8 posted on 11/02/2010 6:30:18 PM PDT by Manic_Episode (Some mornings, it's just not worth chewing through the leather straps...)
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To: humblegunner


yes...but

I WON

so

F*** OFF!!!

9 posted on 11/02/2010 6:30:32 PM PDT by razbinn (I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America,and to the republic for which it ...)
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To: razbinn

Is that your buddy?
The buddy keeping this nonsense going to keep the effort off REAL methods of removal?

You’ll get a tool award by and by, bless your little heart.


10 posted on 11/02/2010 6:35:35 PM PDT by humblegunner (Pablo is very wily)
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To: SoftwareEngineer

I shall endeavor to be patient with you as you seem to desire to be obtuse in this matter.

Note the construction of Article II clause 5 of the USC: “No person except a natural born Citzen, or a Citizen of the United States, AT THE TIME OF THE ADOPTION OF THIS CONSTITUTION, shall be eligible to the Office of President;....

The founders (Washington Adams Madison, Jefferson et al) were NOT NATURAL BORN CITIZENS but had been born as British subjects. They were indisputably CITIZENS of the US at the time of the constitution’s ratification. Without the “grandfather clause” however, they were INELIGIBLE to be president. BEING A CITIZEN WAS NOT GOOD ENOUGH. The constitution establishes a SPECIAL CLASS of citizen for tha POTUS which has only been applied to 43 citizens of the US IN IT’S ENTIRE HISTORY.

Obama too, ACCORDING TO HIS OWN ADMISSION was born a British subject as well owing to the British Immigration and Naturalization Act of 1948 which governed his father’s citizenship status. He had an actionable and legal claim to British citizenship whether he chose to invoke it or not. I ask you, in the name of logic and linear reasoning how it is possible for a NBC of the US to be born subject to the citizenship laws of another nation?

The whole purpose of the clause was to minimize the possibility of Foreign influence in the highest office in the land. In the words of John Jay:
“Permit me to hint, whether it would be wise and reasonable to provide a strong check to the admission of Foreigners into the administration of our national Government; and to declare expressly that the Commander in Chief of the American army shall not be given to nor devolve on, any but a natural born Citizen.”

Unless Barack Obama is the 221 + year old immortal bloodsucking vampire that I suspect that he may in fact be, he is NOT old enough to be accorded the privilege of the grandfather clause of Article II, Section I clause 5 of the USC.

Barack Obama is the living and breathing embodiment of the REASON for Article II, Section 1 clause 5 of the constitution. He is the ultimate PERSONIFICATION of a usurpatious counterfeit Anti-American and Marxist lying demagogue. If we dont invoke this aspect of the USC against him than there is NO reason to EVER invoke it against ANYONE.


11 posted on 11/02/2010 6:53:51 PM PDT by DMZFrank
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To: humblegunner

hey hey hey..that wasn’t a post from me to you personally,but from “The One” to all of us..:)


12 posted on 11/02/2010 6:57:59 PM PDT by razbinn (I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America,and to the republic for which it ...)
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To: Red Steel
Regarding the election yesterday, I would bet more than half the people voting know he's not an NBC and that's just one of the reasons they voted yesterday.

The next 6 months, Dems have to decide if they will give him a pass on Documentation, again.

13 posted on 11/03/2010 4:18:47 AM PDT by PA-RIVER
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To: bushpilot1
veracious cut-and-paster...
14 posted on 11/03/2010 5:01:17 AM PDT by Tex-Con-Man
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I will allow Obama free rent in the Whitehouse until january 3rd.

Because if he is removed technically Biden will follow being appointed by Obama.

And Pelosi would become POTUS.

Between now and then I suspect Pelosi will be spouting steam against Obama like a UP Big Boy 4-8-8-4 climbing Sherman hill on a winter day.


15 posted on 11/03/2010 5:05:51 AM PDT by Eye of Unk (If your enemy is quick to anger, seek to irritate him. Sun Tzu, The Art of War.)
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To: Eye of Unk

If I remember correctly, Biden was not appointed as VP by the One, but rather was elected in the 2008 election.


16 posted on 11/03/2010 8:49:44 AM PDT by knew it all the time
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To: knew it all the time
Don't disturb the fantasists with facts, it angers them.
17 posted on 11/03/2010 8:53:57 AM PDT by allmendream (Income is EARNED not distributed. So how could it be re-distributed?)
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To: Eye of Unk

So what you’re saying is that we need to wait till Nancy’s replacement is officially named ... and then we start impeachment proceedings so that we’ll soon have President Boehner in the White House.


18 posted on 11/03/2010 10:03:08 AM PDT by edge919
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To: humblegunner

Wisenheimer.


19 posted on 11/03/2010 11:28:30 AM PDT by El Sordo (The bigger the government, the smaller the citizen.)
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To: Tex-Con-Man

“veracious cut-and-paster...”

Did you mean vexacious or voracious?


20 posted on 11/03/2010 11:33:57 AM PDT by El Sordo (The bigger the government, the smaller the citizen.)
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