Doug Casey on the Tea Party Movement

Hiskey and Gunpowder.com ^ | 1 November, 2010 | Doug Casey

[CanGyrene]

Louis: So, Doug, about the Tea Party?

Doug: Consider what seems to be brewing in the Tea Party movement. It’s just a straw in the wind, of no real significance itself, but a foreshadowing of something ominous. All the false hope this Tea Party movement is creating impresses me as similar to what was going on in France in the late 1780s…

L: I think I can guess, but why do you say that? As much as you dislike the government, isn’t it a good thing that so many people are finally fed up with it and at long last are showing signs of willingness to throw the bums out?

[CanGyrene]

NOT everyone will agree with this somewhat supercilious (to me) and arguably elitist set of remarks from an atheist and major figure in the financial world. Yet the content is challenging, particularly where he takes to task the "Contract With America" and its latest permutation, as well as briefly and compellingly suggesting the route out of this mess. I do NOT agree with all he says, but his points bear serious consideration. "Liberte, Egalite, Fraternite!" - Not.

[Texas Fossil]

Adversity employs great talents; prosperity renders them useless and carries the inept, the corrupted wealthy and the wicked to the top

May they bear in mind that virtue often contains the seeds of tyranny

May they bear in mind that it is neither gold nor even a multitude of arms that sustains a state but its morals

May each of them keep in his house, in a corner of this field, next to his workbench, next to his plow, his gun, his sword, and his bayonet

May they all be soldiers

May they bear in mind that in circumstances where deliberation is possible, the advice of old men is good but that in moments of crisis youth is generally better informed that its elders

Denis Diderot

Apostrophe to the Insurgents, 1782

[CanGyrene]

Whooops!
That is Whiskey & Gunpowder
Sorry

[CanGyrene]

Perfect riposte for Casey’s remarks about the 1780s! THAT is where his sophistry may come apart.

[CanGyrene]

Hello Fossil!
How did you come up with that so quickly???? And just another added comment, The Divine Right if Kings has NOT morphed into the Divine Right of Wealth - but then that is what Diderot said in effect.

[Texas Fossil]

Our founders were deeply dissappointed in what their counterparts did in France. Same opportunity, but horrible results.

Difference?

Street Rabble vs Respectable landed citizens

Atheistic element in France vs men of faith in America.

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The French aristocracy were some of the worst offenders of abuse of power. Much worse than the English.

Monarchies suck, but not nearly as much as Marxists. It is time to totally destroy those who choose to destroy this nation. God bless the United States of America as we pray for devine providence to save our nation.

[Texas Fossil]

"Rebellion to Tyrants is Obedience to God"

Thomas Jefferson & Ben Franklin

First Great Seal Committee – July/August 1776

http://www.greatseal.com/committees/firstcomm/

[Texas Fossil]

How did you come up with that so quickly?

Canned responses I have used for some time where appropriate. This is an issue I have put some thought to.

[BobP]

Monarchies suck, but not nearly as much as Marxists. It is time to totally destroy those who choose to destroy this nation. God bless the United States of America as we pray for devine providence to save our nation.

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To the lying foreign occupier in the White House;

We are tired of the Ivy League geniuses who game the system and have buried us under trillions of dollars of debt. Your social experiment on the sensible people of the nation is over. The hope and change is a coming... and not from you.

[Texas Fossil]

Is this just ahead of us?

“Obama In Deep Trouble, Huge Scandals Brewing”

http://fellowshipofminds.wordpress.com/2010/10/30/obama-in-deep-troub

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If so, bring it on. Whatever it takes.

[februus]

Times of disintegration follow a non fatal blow such as America experienced on 9/11. After the futility of a foreign war out of which no cohesive conclusion could be drawn(I follow the Hellenic credo that one should never engage in war against an enemy one would not want to have as a citizen)- we tried to arrest the disintegration by resorting to a futurism (”Hope & Change!”) and next will be an archaism (a return to a simpler and more pure past). Of course, our Founders were men of the Frontier, hardened by experiences on a new continent. Quite unlike the desk bound slaves swimming in red ink we have become. If we discover we cannot arrest the disintegration we will collapse, but at least we will have found the answer we sought about our own worthiness to govern ourselves through a time of troubles at last.

[Billthedrill]

The one that really gets me, and not just from Americans but from people all around the world, is: “My country, right or wrong!” That means you’re willing to support what you know is wrong. It’s pathological.

It's also a misquotation. Stephen Decatur deserves better. And these two are ignoramuses. The Real Story.

[mas cerveza por favor]

Doug Casey: The bottom line is that the Tea Party is just a hodgepodge of discontent and grumbling. Tinged with some inchoate rage around the edges. It stands for nothing. It’s simply a reaction.

Casey does much fault-finding but provides little in the way of positive alternative suggestion. He thinks the TP is deficient because it lacks a structured order but the need for leaderless resistance dictates the form of the TP. The problem then is a noxious elite that habitually targets any identifiable leader for genuine reform. Casey is either ignorant about the problem or is himself tied to the elite. The TP must neutralize the lethal power of the elite before it can come out with identifiable leadership and a comprehensive program.

[peeps36]

I thought Casey was smart enough to know he shouldn't trust the mainstream media when it comes to portraying the opposition. I guess I was wrong since he regurgitates the talking points of every liberal loudmouth on MSNBC. It sounds like nothing is good enough for him unless it mirrors every one of his beliefs.

[Mayr Fortuna]

Weeeelll Americans...

Quote:

“L: Power corrupts, absolute power corrupts absolutely. But why the Republicans in particular? Isn’t the stupid party as bad as the evil party?

Doug: As you know, I’ve always distinguished them this way: the Democrats definitely don’t believe in economic freedom, but they say they believe in social freedom, while the Republicans definitely don’t believe in social freedom, but they say they believe in economic freedom. Neither believes in both – that would make them libertarians.”

What the jackass calls "social freedom" is anarchy. The jackass does not recognize conservatives on principle. One can always spot the Revolutionary Mind can´t he?

This guy uses the French Leftist Revolution to compare it to what is going on with the politics in your country.

The main point is he is defending the institution of a third, and a fourth parties, what would no doubt favor the communists democrats.

This is revolutionary tactics in it´s best form, divide to conquer. PS: The jackass has never heard of a man called Ronald Reagan, nor have never noticed the Founders of USA!

[grey_whiskers]

Of course, our Founders were men of the Frontier, hardened by experiences on a new continent. Quite unlike the desk bound slaves swimming in red ink we have become.

Tell that to Sarah Palin.

Cheers!

[grey_whiskers]

If he's an atheist, by definition he doesn't get it.

"Endowed by their CREATOR" doesn't work *without* a Creator.

Cheers!

[Slyfox]

All the false hope this Tea Party movement is creating impresses me as similar to what was going on in France in the late 1780s…

This guy has never studied the French Revolution. I studied Alexis de Tocqueville's writings in college and he would be the first to say that what is happening right now is a distinct repeat of what happened in America in the 1770s.

Whom to believe? Doug Casey or Alexis de Tocqueville?

[Slyfox]

"Liberte, Egalite, Fraternite!"

[Dr. Thorne]

One more utopian libertarian telling the Tea Party how to think. Regardless of my tagline, don’t buy anything from Doug Casey.