Posted on 10/23/2010 7:01:24 AM PDT by markomalley
By Peter LaBarbera
Warning: offensive language
Jervis was just stating fact, protests Hurst, in writing that since the Klan opposed discrimination against a Christian student at Augusta State, and AFTAH also opposes this injustice, then the KKK and I are on the same side. (Juvenile, I know .). [Click HERE to read AFTAH's story on Jennifer Keeton, a victim of homosexualist anti-Christian discrimination.]
OK, Evan, heres another fact: Jervis, Lambda Legal, you and practically the entire gay activist movement are on the same side as NAMBLA, the North American Man/Boy Love Association, with regard to the Boy Scouts of Americas ban on homosexual scoutmasters. (NAMBLA opposes the ban for obvious reasons.) To paraphrase Hurst:
Eh, again, Evan, all I said was that you, Joe Jervis and NAMBLA (which advocates legalizing man-boy sex) are on the same hateful and child-endangering side. This is true.
Perhaps this would be a good time for you and Joe, writers for two homosexual hate websites, to reflect on why you find yourselves in such strong agreement with the most notorious pedophile group in American history.
Obviously, such argumentation says nothing about Jervis and Hursts real attitudes toward NAMBLA (Im assuming they both oppose the vile outfit), so pointing out that Evan, Joe and NAMBLA are on the same side on the Boy Scouts would be a cheap shot. But since these two homosexual writers attempted to make a connection between AFTAH and odious racists, perhaps they can help us understand why so many homosexuals actually have found their home in the fascist movement. British homosexual writer Johann Haris 2008 piece, The Strange, Strange Story of the Gay Fascists in the liberal Huffington Post is quite an eye-opener in that regard.
As Hari writes (emphasis added):
This is a taboo topic for a gay left-wing man like me to touch, but there has always been a weird, disproportionate overlap between homosexuality and fascism .
[T]he idea of a gay fascist seems ridiculous. Yet when the British National Party our own home-grown Holocaust-denying bigots announced it was fielding an openly gay candidate in the European elections this June, dedicated followers of fascism didnt blink. The twisted truth is that gay men have been at the heart of every major fascist movement that ever was including the gay-gassing, homo-cidal Third Reich. With the exception of Jean-Marie Le Pen, all the most high-profile fascists in Europe in the past thirty years have been gay. Its time to admit something. Fascism isnt something that happens out there, a nasty habit acquired by the straight boys. It is in part, at least a gay thing, and its time for non-fascist gay people to wake up and face the marching music.
Just look at our own continent over the past decade. Dutch fascist Pim Fortuyn ran on blatantly racist anti-immigrant platform, describing Islam as a cancer and the biggest threat to Western civilisation today. Yet with two little fluffy dogs and a Mamma complex, he was openly, flamboyantly gay. When accused by a political opponent of hating Arabs, he replied, How can I hate Arabs? I sucked one off last night.
Hari cannot avoid the case of the notorious homosexual Nazi Ernst Rohm, a flagrant homosexual and head of the Nazi storm-troopers who actually discovered Hitler (years later, after gaining power, Hitler would have Rohm assassinated). I doubt many American schoolchildren will learn this in their World War II lessons (emphasis and link added):
Along with Adolf Hitler, Rohm was the founding father of Nazism. Born to conservative Bavarian civil servants in 1887, Ernst Rohms life began in his view in the heroic trenches of the First World War. Like so many of the generation who formed the Nazi Party, he was nurtured by and obsessed with the homoerotic myth of the trenches heroic, beautiful boys prepared to die for their brothers and their country .
It was Rohm who first spotted the potential of a soap-box ranter called Adolf Hitler. He saw him as the demagogue he needed to mobilize support for his plan to overthrow democracy and establish a soldiers state where the army ruled untrammelled. He introduced the young fascist to local politicians and military leaders; they knew him for many years as Rohms boy. Gay historian Frank Rector notes, Hitler was, to a substantial extent, Rohms protégé. Rohm integrated Hitler into his underground movement to overthrow the Weimar Republic.
Rohms blatant, out homosexuality seems bizarre now, given the gay genocide that was to follow. He talked openly about his fondness for gay bars and Turkish baths, and was known for his virility. He believed that gay people were superior to straights, and saw homosexuality as a key principle of his proposed Brave New Fascist Order. As historian Louis Snyder explains, Rohm projected a social order in which homosexuality would be regarded as a human behaviour pattern of high repute He flaunted his homosexuality in public and insisted his cronies do the same. He believed straight people werent as adept at bullying and aggression as homosexuals, so homosexuality was given a high premium in the SA [Sturmabteilung (Nazi Stormtroopers)] They promoted an aggressive, hypermasculine form of homosexuality, condemning hysterical women of both sexes, in reference to feminine gay men.
This belief in the superiority of homosexuality had a strong German tradition that grew up at the turn of the twentieth century around Adolf Brand, publisher of the countrys first gay magazine. You could call it Queer as Volk: they preached that gay men were the foundation of all nation-states and represented an elite, warrior caste that should rule. They venerated the ancient warrior cults of Sparta, Thebes and Athens.
Rohm often referred to the ancient Greek tradition of sending gay solider couples into battle, because they were believed to be the most ferocious fighters. The famous pass of Thermopylae, for example was held by 300 soldiers who consisted of 150 gay couples. In its early years, the SA - Hitler and Rohms underground army was seen as predominantly gay. Rohm assigned prominent posts to his lovers, making Edmund Heines his deputy and Karl Ernst the SA commander in Berlin. The organisation would sometimes meet in gay bars. The gay art historian Christian Isermayer said in an interview, I got to know people in the SA. They used to throw riotous parties even in 1933 I once attended one. It was quite well-behaved but thoroughly gay. But then, in those days, the SA was ultra-gay.
Gay Nazis Missing from Gay History Month?
This is not new information. Long before Christian pro-family advocate Scott Lively wrote about it in his book The Pink Swastika, the late historian and former war correspondent William Shirer, in his book The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich, documented that sexual perverts flocked to the National Socialist Party. Hitler himself was potentially a sexual deviant (see Shirer, p. 132, and Lothar Machtens book Hidden Hitler) but you wont see der Führer (or Ernst Rohm) listed in the annual Gay History Month listings of famous homosexuals. Nevertheless, the same outfit that publishes this dubious homosexual list lays claim to others like Cary Grant and George Washington Carver (a committed Christian) asserting rumor as fact without offering definitive proof that they were practicing homosexuals.
(Grant was married five times and denied the homosexual rumors, which rehash the standard gay conflation of male friendship with homoeroticism; former wife Dyan Cannon condemns the gay rumors HERE, saying, I can tell you there isnt an iota of truth to those ugly rumors They would never have written that drivel when Cary was alive. Hed have sued the pants off those cowards Cary cant defend himself from the grave but I will go to mine insisting he was every ounce a straight man. Moral of the story: dont trust pro-homosexual historians with an agenda.)
One thing Ive noticed about British homosexual activists: they are more willing to write honestly about homosexuality, including its downsides, than their American counterparts. Hari even alludes to the fascist roots of the pseudo-masculine, homosexual sadomasochistic (leather) subculture (the same subculture that rears its hideous head in major cities across the country):
So its fairly easy to establish that gay people are not inoculated from fascism. They have often been at its heart. This begs the bigger question: why? How did gay people so often victims of oppression and hate become integral to the most hateful and evil political movement of all?
Gay pornographer and film-maker Bruce LaBruce has one explanation. He claims that all gay porn today is implicitly fascist. Fascism is in our bones, because its all about glorifying white male supremacy and fetishizing domination, cruelty, power and monstrous authority figures.
Hari takes an obligatory shot at Lively as a homophobe but Lively merely has sought to educate Americans on this same Nazi-homosexuality factor that remains buried in Politically Correct history. It also should be noted that there are plenty of attempts to blame the Nazi-homosexual link and some male homosexuals distorted and exaggerated attempts to act masculine on their repressed, internalized homophobia. The implicit, and sometimes explicit, message: like every other gay problem, its OUR fault.
Extremism and gay politics go hand-in-hand
Homosexual radicals deranged attempts to link pro-family conservatives to racist fringe groups are part of their larger goal of demonizing and marginalizing homophobic Christians and social conservatives. This begs the question: where does extremism find its natural home? In America, sexual extremism and its accompanying intolerance of moral dissent is found mainly on the Left not the Right especially in urban, homosexual bastions like San Francisco, and on college campuses, where hate speech codes proliferate.
(Moreover, on the racial front, African-American pro-family Christians like Pastor Ken Hutcherson have been the target of racist epithets by (white) homosexual activists and there has been much discussion of racism within the LGBT movement and efforts to eradicate it. Of course, racism also exists in all other sectors of U.S. society.)
There is something profoundly queer about a social movement rooted in an ancient vice attempting to paint defenders of Judeo-Christian civilization and normalcy marriage, the natural family, and religion as extreme and hateful. Or even worse, as causing violence against homosexuals, and gay suicides. Yet this is the modus operandi of homosexual activists and powerful gay lobby groups who have gone so far as to equate pro-family Christian organizations with the Klan, slavery advocates and the Taliban. The LGBT lobbys ambitious smear campaign painting Christians and historic Bible passages proscribing same-sex behavior as extreme comes at a cost: it exposes homosexualists out-of-the-closet hatred for religious expression.
Meanwhile, there is the factor of the gay movements tolerance and promotion of an ever-expanding array of perversions and a sexual freedom agenda that borders on sexual anarchy. (The National Coalition for Sexual Freedom an ally of the National Gay and Lesbian Task Force aims to advance the rights of, and advocate for consenting adults in the BDSM-Leather-Fetish, Swing, and Polyamory Communities.) If the media were even close to being impartial on this issue, Americans would have a much clearer picture of the radicalism of homosexual and transsexual activists working to use laws to legitimize their lifestyles and oppress religious critics.
Tolerating homosexual pedophilia advocacy?
Perhaps most observers will agree that it doesnt get more extreme than pedophile advocacy yet even ideologues in favor of adult-child sex find a voice on the gay-affirming Left. Witness the book review in the Marxist publication Monthly Review by David Thorstad, founding member of NAMBLA and former president of the Gay Activist Alliance in New York. In his review of Sexual and Socialism: History, Politics and Theory of LGBT Liberation, by Sherry Wolf, Thorstad complains that Wolf is too tough on adult-child sex:
But by inserting seduction into her novel definition of pederasty (a sexual relationship between a man and an adolescent youth), [Wolf] repeats the foolish notion that a boy under the magical age of consent (whatever it happens to be) is by definition incapable of consenting to sex with a man.
How instructive that despite the best efforts of LGBT activists to shed their past tolerance for pedophilia (NAMBLA used to march in gay pride parades), pro-pederasty and truly extreme sexual activists and professors like radical pro-abortion zealots continue to have intellectual sway with the Left. The same cannot be said of the KKK and neo-Nazis (or sexual perversion activists) vis-a-vis religious conservatives.
Radical Gay Founding Fathers
Then there are those extremist gay founding fathers, among them:
Reading gay iconic history is like reading a (pre-Political Correctness) psychological textbook on the outworking of dysfunction mixed with a peculiar form of hatred derived from rebelling against God and the Church. Throw in a nearly pathological quest to justify the unjustifiable (embracing deviance and sin as the basis for ones identity) and what emerges is a powerful personal motive to both hate religious opponents of homosexuality and (for those who do not reject the Creator altogether) to posit that God created and accepts homosexuals as gays.
(The resentment toward God and religion theme is pervasive in homosexual writings: see Page 2 of Peter Spriggs Family Research Council paper on homosexual activist and Obama Education Department appointee Kevin Jennings, who is viciously hostile to religion, writes Sprigg. He quotes Jennings, writing in his autobiography Mamas Boy, Preachers Son, recollecting his thoughts as a younger man: God . . . had done nothing but cause me pain and anguish through His inaction and malevolence throughout my childhood What had he done for me, other than make me feel shame and guilt? Jennings told God: Screw you, buddy.)
Pity the poor schoolchildren who one day could be forced to study sanitized versions of these mens lives during school-sanctioned Gay History Month, if current trends continue. (Note regarding American icons who practiced or struggled with homosexuality: there is a big difference between recognizing them for their accomplishments and contributions to American culture and politicizing their contribution by making it part of an official celebration of homosexuality. We can appreciate Martina Navratilovas skill on the tennis court without celebrating her lesbian lifestyle choice.)
Deviance begets deviance
The Sexual Left continues to push the envelope in the name of aberrant rights and sexual freedom demonstrating precisely where gay tolerance leads. Just last week the National Gay and Lesbian Task Force sponsored a Poly Pride conference in New York City. (Polyamory is defined by Urban Dictionary as: The practice, state or ability of having more than one sexual loving relationship at the same time, with the full knowledge and consent of all partners involved.) A Queer Sexual Liberation workshop at the conference was set to explore many aspects of sexual liberation including: BDSM [bondage & discisplne, dominance & submission, sadism & masochism], Leather, Polyamory, Non-monogomy, sex work [prostitution], and more.
The Task Force, founded in 1973, is hardly a fringe homosexual group but the oldest national LGBT rights organization in the United States, according to Wikipedia. It is involved in politics and legislative lobbying across the country. The same dominant media that monitored the Christian Coalition has little interest in the actual record of LGBT groups like the Task Force.
Perhaps the extremism that comes naturally to homosexual militants explains their presence on both the hard, Marxist left and fascist right of the political spectrum. Where they come together is in their abiding contempt for biblical morality and Americas God-fearing, Judeo-Christian heritage which laid the foundation for our liberties.
To be sure, liberterians of all stripes, sexualities and ideologies often cheer on the gays in supporting a live-and-let-live attitude toward sex, and marriage- and family structures. Libertarians abhor the use of government and laws to uphold traditional moral values. However, it is strident pro-homosexual organizations and activists not libertarians who are in the vanguard of mobilizing toward a new secular ideology that grants superior legal rights, as it were, to homosexuals. The homosexual legal agenda criminalizes the expression of biblical morality e.g., a Christian professional photographers right not to take pictures at a lesbian commitment ceremony as merely another form of anti-gay discrimination that must be eradicated. Few in the secular media have seriously examined this very real, zero-sum conflict between homosexual activism and religious freedom and the trampling of Christians freedom of conscience and Americans civil rights in the name of Gay Tolerance.
Homo-fascism through the law?
Could the American State become a national, homo-fascist agent? America is not Europe. Due to our much larger population of committed Christians and religious people and our stronger, First Amendment commitment to individual religious freedom it is hard to see America going down the road of Canada or Great Britain. These are emerging pro-homosexual, quasi-police states where Christians can be arrested (Britain) or sued in rigged state human rights tribunals (Canada) merely for speaking against homosexuality.
Nevertheless, factoring in todays secular environment and the escalating and extraordinary attacks by U.S. gay militants against churches, historic biblical morality and people of faith including the vilification of Christians [see comments on Jervis' über-hate site HERE] and it becomes clearer each day that fanatical homosexual militants are serious about creating a government tyranny that enforces their egalitarian agenda of treating homosexuality like normalcy in all spheres of life. (Legalized homosexual marriage accomplishes much of this agenda: e.g., in a gay marriage state like Massachusetts, privately-owned businesses and institutions are not allowed to treat homosexual marrieds any differently than normal marrieds. This forced Catholic Charities out of the adoption business because church officials could not countenance placing children in homosexual-led households.)
Much as they talk a good game about respecting religion, homosexual activists are working towards a government and legal paradigm that crushes religious and moral dissent all in the name of tolerance, equality, and anti-discrimination. (All oppressive agendas use soft, innocuous-sounding euphemisms.) Their task will become much easier if acceptance of homosexuality becomes widespread in society even among self-professed biblical Christians leaving a smaller number of principled, counter-cultural holdouts to target for persecution.
Where will pursuit of this homosexual activist vision lead? Will the courts codify a soft tyranny (isnt that an oxymoron?) in which rights based on homosexuality (sexual orientation) with some religious exemptions negate Americans freedom to live out their faith in their everday lives? Who can know? But we do know that few Germans in the 20s and 30s could have envisioned the oppression and evil that was to come only a few years later. We must remain true to the Bible and vigilant to preserve our genuine God-given freedoms at all costs.
For more on the European homosexual-fascism link, go to Haris piece, The Strange Story of the Gay Fascists.
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It is not uncommon to find exceptions within any group of people, including the Nazis. You find pedophile priests in the Roman Catholic Church, but that does not mean that Catholicism accepts such behavior. Homosexuality was contrary to Nazi ideals. Do not confuse skinheads with the Nazis in Germany under Hitler.
i wasn’t holding my breath but i was wondering when these two were finally going to come together
“Homosexuality was contrary to Nazi ideals.”
The Nazis were at times inconsistent-shall we say hypocritical-concerning policy and practice.
With all due respect, you have no clue about the founding of Nazism. Read “The Pink Swastika” - it’s linked in the article and it is all online, you can download it and read it for free.
Believe me, you know nothing about the innate connection between homosexuality and Nazism.
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Peter LaBarbera covers it all - the history, the connection with NAMBLA and "anything goes" sexuality, the hatred of religion, the violence and domination not just among homosexuals but their influence and intention in wider society, how Libertarianism plays into the homosexual agenda (or vice versa) - and how the militant homosexual agenda needs to destroy our freedoms of religion, speech and association. They mean to do it, they ain't kidding, and history tells the story as well.
A couple of additional points - there was no "gay genocide", as explained in The Pink Swastika (which I highly recommend, it's not a long read and extremely fascinating and very well documented and researched) maybe 5,000 homosexuals died, mostly from disease, while interned, they were not targeted for extinction and actually many who were arrested were not actually homosexuals but political prisoners falsely labeled as homosexuals. Additionally, LeBarbera mistakenly calls fascism on the "Right" which it is not, the Nazi party meant "National Socialist" party, more leftwing crap.
This article proves that the homosexual agenda is extremely dangerous for everyone, is not a niche issue, and has absolutely nothing to do with love, commitment, or what people do in their bedrooms. All those are lying propaganda-speak to play on sentiment, ignorance and guilt.
Please if you can read this article and check out links. This is like a small encyclopedia of information and can be sent to people who need to know the truth.
BTTT for an extremely important read.
I read the Pink Swastika a decade ago and that is what started my investigation into the homosexual movement and why I find it so dangerous and vile.
That book is being suppressed and discredited by the homosexual groups (I laughed when I read what was written about that book on Wikipedia). The writers are followed and harassed whenever they try to speak. There lives have been made into hell.
The other book, The Hidden Hitler, validates much of what the Pink Swastika says and is based on a lot of information about Hitler’s young life—all that wasn’t destroyed by Hitler. Includes everything that was written about Hitler in the forties and fifties. It is fascinating book and also extremely well researched.
Hitler lived in homosexual sections in Germany and it was documented. Although the author does know that Hitler was a deviant he says he most likely was a coprophiliac and most likely had homosexual relations all through his life in the army and in his 20’s while renting in homosexual districts—but he doesn’t have proof.
Don’t you wonder why the homosexuals NEVER want to claim Hitler as one of their own, and hide all NAZI Brownshirt homosexuality... when Hitler most likely was a homosexual, among other things.—way more than Abe Lincoln could be. Hmmmmmm.
Exactly. I have both books and they are both extremely well researched.
I think the Fromm/Marcuse etc info you wrote about yesterday would be excellent because it ties in with much of what is in this article.
(hint hint)
Anything you put together would be good as a vanity, I ping it out and put a link to this thread.
The pedophile (homosexual) priests only proved that homosexuals could not control their base urges. They are RULED by their sexual urges—a very dangerous and impossible way to build a civil society—especially for women and children. All homosexual communities treat women as slaves and molest the young boys....Sparta/Afghanis/Romans/ancient Japan.
It was by observing the destruction to civil societies by homosexual behavior which made it illegal. Please educate yourself to why it is such a vile, fascist behavior and strongly condemned by the most rational, educated people.
Nazis were founded in a homosexual bar. The Weimar Republic was the most vile “shock” culture that ever existed. The known National Vice of Germany in the 20’s and 30’s was homosexuality and all other nation’s politicians were told to guard their back when dealing with any Germans. Please learn history. Homosexuality gave rise to the most ugly culture in the history of the world. They were Godless. They formed boyscout groups (eventually became Hitler’s Youth)controlled by known homosexuals who would have naked orgies with the boys in the woods. Easy to research.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/johann-hari/the-strange-strange-story_b_136697.html
Ok...but the reason why—it is hard for me to write on my word program (which came with this HP computer). For some reason, it never allows me to copy and paste on the page....so I can never just paste things when I am writing. It makes it so difficult to do a paper which is researched and contains quotes. I have to type out everything :( I have tried and tried to get it to work with absolutely no success. I can cut and paste easily on these posts :)
I used to have a MAC and had no trouble with Word. You can imagine how tedious it is to write with no ability to paste.
Yikes! I can understand, I’d go nuts without copy/paste. You need to get a good Word program, absolutely. Spring for it or find it somehow or another.
Freepmail me, I might be able to help you.
While Roehm was exclusuvely homosexual,Hitler and Hess were more likely bisexual. Goebbels and Heydrich had reputations as womanizers,in addition to being married with kids. The Hitler Youth was plagued with homosexual behavior.
Kinsey said that homosexuality was really fluid. It was only in recent history that the definition of “homosexuality” had this Post Modern concept of being immutable (trying to put a genetic spin on it as opposed to a learned (conditioned) behavior.
It is another one of the cultural Marxist’s big lies. Sexual decadence really doesn’t concern itself with the object of the act, that is why homosexuality has much higher rates of interaction with children, animals and holes in walls. It has everything to do with hedonism, immorality and narcissism and lust.
You really need to read The Pink Swastika. Masculine and dominant homsoexuals were indeed common in the Nazis, what they abhorred (as mentioned in the article above) were the effeminate homosexuals.
Homosexuality remained illegal but that law was enforced primarily as a political tool against enemies of Nazism.
Of course Nazism was more than a bunch of degenerates bent on violence. To get the entire grasp of the philosophy behind Nazism, Pink Swastika is a very good place to start. The homo-erotic was intrinsic to Nazism.
The Pink Swastika tells that a German homosexual invented the word “homosexual” to denote a sense of special community among sodomites and pederasts, as they were formerly known. They were known by their acts, not as a special identity.
So “homosexual” is as much a propaganda term as “gay”.
They really should be called sodomites and pederasts.
Sort of like minorities and the Democrat party.
( ( ( shakes head ) ) )
Eerily similar.
The face of evil may have slightly different features in different times in history, but the general features are the same.
This is such an excellent article. Bumping to the top!!
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