Posted on 10/07/2010 4:23:32 PM PDT by PJ-Comix
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!
The DUmmies are now screaming BETRAYAL over Obama dropping public option in ObamaCare due to new details revealed in Tom Daschle's soon to be published book. However, they really do need to be careful on how much they slam Obama because they can also get TOMBSTONED by Skinner over the current DUmmie GroupThink rules. You can see the upset DUmmies in this THREAD whose title also reveals the reason for their anger, "Daschle: Public Option ‘Taken Off The Table’ In July Due To ‘Understanding People Had w/ Hospitals'." That means July 2009 BEFORE the Town Hall protests even began. Just another example of DUmmie DEmoralization leading into the November election. So let us now watch the DUmmies rage over Obama's betrayal in Bolshevik Red while the commentary of your humble correspondent, wondering how many on this thread will be tombstoned, is in the [barackets]:
Daschle: Public Option ‘Taken Off The Table’ In July Due To ‘Understanding People Had w/ Hospitals'
[Also note the ObamaCare WAIVERS Obama is currently performing for big companies. Enjoy the many betrayals, DUmmies.]
Former Senate Majority Leader Tom Daschle (D-SD)’s new book Getting It Done: How Obama and Congress Finally Broke the Stalemate To Make Way for Health Care Reform comes out next week, but this morning he spoke to me about some of the concessions the administration made to pass reform and the shortcomings in the Affordable Care Act.
In his book, Daschle reveals that after the Senate Finance Committee and the White House convinced hospitals to to accept $155 billion in payment reductions over ten years on July 8, the hospitals and Democrats operated under two “working assumptions.” “One was that the Senate would aim for health coverage of at least 94 percent of Americans,” Daschle writes. “The other was that it would contain no public health plan,” which would have reimbursed hospitals at a lower rate than private insurers. I asked Daschle if the White House had taken the option off the table in July 2009 and if all future efforts to resuscitate the provision were destined to fail:
DASCHLE: I don’t think it was taken off the table completely. It was taken off the table as a result of the understanding that people had with the hospital association, with the insurance (AHIP), and others. I mean I think that part of the whole effort was based on a premise. That premise was, you had to have the stakeholders in the room and at the table. Lessons learned in past efforts is that without the stakeholders’ active support rather than active opposition, it’s almost impossible to get this job done. They wanted to keep those stakeholders in the room and this was the price some thought they had to pay. Now, it’s debatable about whether all of these assertions and promises are accurate, but that was the calculation. I think there is probably a good deal of truth to it. You look at past efforts and the doctors and the hospitals, and the insurance companies all opposed health care reform. This time, in various degrees of enthusiasm, they supported it. And if I had to point out some of the key differences between then and now, it would be the most important examples of the difference.
Despite being “taken off the table” as a result of the “understanding,” the White House continued to publicly deny claims that it was backing away from the provision even as it tried to focus on other aspects of the bill. “Nothing has changed,” said Linda Douglass, then communications director for the White House Office of Health Reform in August of 2009 and many times thereafter.
[What a surprise...NOT! Obama stabbed the leftwing NUtcases in the back by pretending to be solidly for the public option when he had already taken it off the table behind the scenes. And now to the outraged DUmmies...]
"We the People" were a one-night stand during November 2008. Used and dumped. Don't know about you, but I need a long, hot shower ...
[It will take more than a long, hot shower to wipe off your "SUCKER" tattoo.]
So, in other words... things like the PO and reimportation of drugs were put out there for an election win but with the full knowledge they were simply bargaining chiops to be used against the insurance industry when the time came.This is what we always "knew", but to have it in black and white....very very...what's the words I am looking for? Anger inducing and enthusiasm reducing. Fool me once.....
[...Fool you once again...and again...and again...]
Can it really be callled healthcare if people can't afford it? Why am I not surprised. Disgusting disgusting disgusting.
[Just be sure you don't mention You Know Who by name or a tombstone ceremony will be in your near future.]
Lol -- like we didn't have a good guess. F*ckin pisses That all whores at the table and no People. Doesn't matter now I guess.
[Yes, it really doesn't matter that you DUmmies were SUCKERS yet again.]
what else do you expect from a freakin Goldman Sachs admin!
[Attention Head DUmmie Skinner: TOMBSTONE ALERT!!!]
I wonder when we'll finally have a Democrat in the Oval Office again. It has been a long time since Jimmy Carter.
[LOL! The DUmmies are actually nostalgic for the SECOND WORST President in history.]
The ultra-rich and the mega-corps have seized control. Nothing left but a long slow slide into 3rd world status. Game over, unless somehow a Constitutional Convention is called to add public election financing and non-corporate-personhood amendments. Then that would somehow have to be passed thru the states, most of which are just as bad as the feds, corruption-wise.
[Any DUmmie inpired Constitutional Convention would have to include nationalization of all private property like what Fidel did in Cuba.]
It shows why Obama would Never have had the skill or guts to enact the Clean Air Act. He is Far, Far to wholly owned and controlled by corporate lobbyists to ever do anything that serious and groundbreaking.
[Over here, Skinner! TOMBSTONE ALERT!!!]
Good to get confirmation though. Even with knowing this information still makes me sick. Our government is corrupted way beyond what anyone is willing to admit.
[So you're saying that Obama is CORRUPT? TOMBSTONE ALERT!!!]
Daschle retracts claim.
[Too late. The cat is out of the bag.]
Sorry, cat's out of the bag- and this simply corroborates the administration's actions down the line, which seemed inexplicable to many of us who'd been paying attention at the time. Obama wasn't just being timid in this case- he'd assented to a backroom deal with the hospital and insurance lobby early on in the process (rather than standing up and fighting them).
[Another one, Skinner. TOMBSTONE ALERT!!!]
Admissions like this tend to be credible- the backpeddling... not so much
[Daschle spoke the truth about Obama's betrayal...which is why he has to now perform a PHONY backtrack.]
Are you suggesting that Pres Obama wanted a public option? And that Daschle is lying because he wants to sell a book. Speak out and tell us what pres Obama wanted. We got shit. I am sure you have an excuse but we got shit.
[Once again, the DUmmies get the sh*t end of the stick.]
If this story had any basis, it would mean the entire Congress was complicit, including Harry Reid and the thirty Democrats who signed the letter in support of the public option.
[Yup, they were complicit all right. But not to fear, many of them will soon be OUT of Congress.]
A documentary on PBS confirmed the backroom deals Obama had with Big Pharma, Big Insurance, and the Senate Finance Committee, which my beloved Sen. Baucus chairs. I want to throw up on their foreheads.
[First you have to do what the new MSDNC slogan says: "Lean Forward."]
I'm sure he is now under pressure to alter his recollection, but his initial comments left no room for doubt.
[Such an alteration shouldn't be too difficult. Don't Democrats also lie to their own diaries?]
The scam has nothing to do with our being able to get care and everything to do with protecting the insurance industry's profits.
[Yet last March most DUmmies were JUBILANT over the passage of ObamaCare.]
And NOW the administration is attacking US...over an Enthusiasm Gap. Are we supposed to cheer at our own funeral? Is that what it means to be a Good Democrat?
[To be a good Democrat it means you need to put your brain into a permanent state of hibernation.]
This makes Obama's remarks at his $30,000 / plate dinner especially disgusting now that he's been caught in his lie.
[EEK! Skinner! TOMBSTONE ALERT!!!]
I feel betrayed . . . to say the least.
[Aw! Do you want to wet your hankie at your tombstoning?]
I have long predicted that the Democrats will help to Impeach Obama. Mark it down.
PING!
IBTP!
IATP!
/yawn
Were these people hiding in a cave somewhere? lol
DU must be a very dark place.
Corrupt, third-world, Goldman Sachs top ten!
Top 10!
I guess they need a Two-Year After Pill.
On second thought, let's not.
12
More like a back door deal...for which benburch is extremely eager.
I love a good freudenschade DUFU. Charlie Brown goes to kick the football again.
November DUFUs are gonna be sah-weet!
Daschle is for a Death Plan. obama is for a Death Plan. There isn’t a dime’s worth of difference between them. What are these DUmmies arguing about? They all got what they wanted.
Daschle and obama et al. got their Death Plan. They won. The ENTIRE American people, of EVERY political persuasion—even those who support(ed) obamacare—lost BIG. (There are a few exceptions, like union members and members of Congress, who did not lose big—at least so far.)
The entire American health insurance and health care system is unraveling because of obamacare, a piece at a time, day by day. Those who are crying about the loss of the “public option” just don’t get it!!!!
It’s up to us conservatives—by the help of God—to pull the rest of our nation out of the obamacare and the obamanation ditch. Defund and/or repeal obamacare. Get it (and especially the panel that decides what treatments to allow for whom) declared unconstitutional in the courts.
Impeach obama, and try all those who designed the obamacare Death Plan for conspiracy to commit mass murder. Return a Christian and Jewish ethos to our country, NOT a utilitarian and muslim one!
Thanks, Daschle. Anyone who can cause the vermin libs to stay away from the polls because they’re ticked off at the lib candidate(s)is OK in my book.
"Nothing in Austria has changed. Singing and music will show this to the world." Thank you, Herr Zeller.
Top 20, woohoo!
DUmped and DUped. Hee! Hee!
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