Deer Hunters Warned About Pot Growers

Sounds like a good reason to carry more than my normal five rounds while deer hunting.90-100 rounds and some smoke grenades might be in order.

With no limit.

"Idaho sounds like a great place to live. How have you weathered immigration?"

Oh how to answer you? First I would like to distinguish myself. I am not anti-immigrant for those who who come here to integrate into our society. My own family came to America as immigrants themselves many years ago.

My impression of "illegal" immigration is that Northern Idaho has very few. Norhern Idaho has traditionally been more of a rugged population as it was built on loggiing and mining.

Southern Idaho is a large farming area and very different that Northern Idaho

Southwestern Idaho has large pockets of Hispanics around Napa and Caldwell. Mostly migrant farm workers that have settled over the years, I think.

Southeastern Idaho has a few Hispanics, but I have not noticed any large pockets of them.

Of course most all towns have a small handful of Asians and Indians.

Idaho is a great place to live!

In the not too distant future America will have a real president and the drug cartels will disappear.

My grandparents also immigrated, and I have no problem with legal immigrants, and am worried about not enough babies.

I was wondering about pot growers in the wilderness, but the growing season may not be beneficial. :)

I am certain the drug runners have better weapons that shitguns and hunting rifles ...maybe the Feds should go after them rather than bothering citizens who have ‘assault looking’ weapons.

Why would the Feds want to do a stupid thing like that? Drug runners are much better armed than citizens.

Oh, so you are looking for stories in Idaho like this:

Man indicted for illegal marijuana grow operation

For the most part the climate is not conducive for marijuana, but you always need to be careful out in the woods. If not the marijuana it may be meth labs.

$1000 for each drug grower killed.

And a cool million for each of their employers killed.

A hiking trail from Ona Beach (Seal Rock/Waldport area) over the coast range to Corvallis is going in.

My thought was just as your posts states.

All the bad element that could burrow into along that trail.

Otherwise known as a “bag limit”. Wonder how that translates into the Spanish....

Friday, August 20, 2010
Alien Mexican Cartels occupy land all over the USA!

Yes, we know Arizona has land that has been given up to Mexico and it’s Narcoterrorists, but it’s not just along the border. It’s true. Search just about any state and you’ll find the story.
Many refuse to believe it, at the peril of all of us.
Private property rights??? Forget about it! Public property protected??? LOL!

Utah
Another Marijuana Farm Seized by Southern Utah Law Enorcement ...
KCSG - - 4 hours ago
(St. George, UT) – A 40-member law enforcement team seized over 3000 plants in another Marijuana growing farm near Central, Utah in ...Thursday’s raid is the sixth this year in Washington County, Moss said. Last year, there were two.

California

For years TheTownCrier has been reporting the hundreds of thousands of acres of habitat that is destroyed, without a word from ‘enviro friendly’ non profits and misguided, corrupt politicians. Last year, in the LaBrea Fire, 88,000 acres were burned down by the same illegal alien narcoterrorists.
This today:
Man fatally shot by deputies during pot raid was armed with pellet gun
[snip]Scouting deep within the steep, wooded wilderness of the sprawling N3 Cattle Ranch on July 21, three deputies shot Jose Penaloza-Soto, a landscaper from East Palo Alto. Deputies reported that the camouflaged 28-year-old did not drop his weapon when they spotted him and called out orders in both English and Spanish. In fact, he seemed to be aiming what clearly looked like a hunting rifle at a group of Alameda County sheriff’s deputies who were also on the raid. As officers advanced on the wounded man, he suddenly reached out to grab the dropped weapon and was shot once more, according to officials.

When they finally got to him, lying on a hillside of loose scree not far from an 18,000-plant illegal marijuana garden, Penaloza-Soto was dead.

Deputies estimate that there was about $60 million of marijuana ready for harvest within two well-hidden gardens nearby. Other suspects at the scene ran, deputies believe. Deputies heard them crashing away through the underbrush during the shooting. They have not been found.

The dead man’s family declined to be interviewed. But sheriffs reported that he was a Mexican national, here for slightly longer than a decade. He had worked for years with no criminal problems as a landscaper in the San Francisco area. Recently, his family reported, he had grown quiet and distant.
Marin Marijuana Farm Crackdown Nets $20 Million Of Pot
August 20, 2010
[snip]Sgt. Debra Barry said the plants, between 2 and 5 feet high, were spread over approximately 100 acres in the ridgelines and canyons surrounding Kent Lake in the Mount Tamalpais watershed. Dangerous chemicals, including rat poison, fertilizers and insecticides that pose significant dangers to pets and wildlife, public land and the water supply, were found at three clandestine grow sites, Barry said. The illegal cultivators also diverted water from natural springs, creating further danger to fish and wildlife. The growers also set up “improvised diversionary devices” used to disguise trails and injure people, Barry said. The growers’ encampments had tents, food, showering areas, camouflage clothing, personal items, and ammunition for .45-caliber handguns.

Madera County - $135 million worth of marijuana - that’s what drug agents found growing on private property in Madera County Wednesday. It is a record find for that county.

The grow was in a corn field, near Road 21 and Avenue 19.

It is a continuing problem across the Valley - Mexican drug cartels growing marijuana on acres of private property, and the land owners have no clue about it.

20-year-old Alejandro Castellanos, and 21-year-old Carlos Bailon-Martinez, both from Oaxaca, Mexico, were arrested.

They now face felony drug and weapons charges and are in the custody of immigration officials.

Ohio
Officers swarm ‘marijuana megafarms’ with suspected ties to Mexican drug cartels

Sept. 22, 2010 - Chasing some of the men as they fled along the Muskingum River, authorities arrested 10 Mexican nationals and charged them with conspiracy to cultivate marijuana in two carefully tended fields about 90 miles apart.

Authorities then arrested Hugo Ayala, 40, at his apartment on Columbus’ North Side. They say he was the ringleader of a potentially multimillion-dollar operation that could be linked to Mexican drug cartels.

Ayala, a legal U.S. resident, is thought to have shuttled his work crews from Columbus to their duties in the marijuana fields both east and northwest of the city. ...men would camp out at the sites while working days a time. (THIS is what DHS is giving green cards out to!)

Wisconsin

‘Marijuana Megafarm’ Hidden In Wisconsin National ForestAug 12, 2010
[snip]Investigators say a band of Hispanic men turned the forest’s southeastern tip into a giant pot farm, growing thousands of plants on remote plots, moving supplies along forgotten logging roads and buying supplies and ammunition at local stores.

Federal, state and local police spent June and July tailing suspected growers, following pickup trucks down abandoned logging roads and watching Hispanic men appear in the trees and toss nylon sacks resembling grain feed bags into the beds.

They followed one suspect to a Fleet Farm in Green Bay, where he purchased six pairs of pruning shears. They watched another man purchase 9 mm ammunition at a nearby Wal-Mart, documents said.

In Wisconsin, the number of seized plants in grew six-fold between 2003 and 2008, a year when more than 32,000 plants were seized

Drug investigators believe Mexican cartels are largely responsible for the spike. Growing the drug here helps them get it to major American markets more quickly. They often import unskilled laborers from Mexico to help find the best land and tend their crops.
Hidden in national forest: marijuana megafarm

In this Wednesday Aug. 11, 2010 photo, the men arrested in connection with marijuana farms that were raided by authorities in a national forest in northeast Wisconsin appear in federal court in Green Bay, Wis.

Cartel grow recruiters often look for people with family in Mexico so they can use them as leverage to keep the farmers working and quiet. If anyone betrays the farm, they go after the worker’s family, intelligence experts say.
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Texas
Officials say Mexican cartels growing more pot in Texas | McClatchy
Jul 15, 2010 ... It’s still early in the growing season, but the Ellis County Sheriff’s Department has already unearthed nearly 30000 high-grade marijuana ...Link
Mexican cartel farmers believed to be back growing marijuana in North Texas
[snip]”If these cartels are involved, that’s something for landowners to be concerned about. That’s some mean people down there, and there’s a lot of money at stake.”

Washington

Two arrested in alleged pot-growing operation
[snip]One of two alleged marijuana growers captured by police late Tuesday night was armed with a loaded rifle when caught tending about 1,300 plants hidden in the Gifford Pinchot National Forest, police say. ( Manuel C. Granados, 51, and Jose G. Perez, 36,)
In a similar case in Oregon on Wednesday morning, Jackson County Sheriff’s Office deputies shot and killed an armed man in a raid of an alleged Mexican cartel’s outdoor marijuana growing operation, according to a bulletin from the Oregon State Police.
Officials said Wednesday evening they didn’t yet know whether the suspects are in the U.S. legally. Perez also was being held for arrest warrants, issued in other areas, charging DUI and negligent driving.
Police say illegal pot farms causing potential harm to environment
[snip]There’s no regard for the environment or maintaining public lands,” said Special Agent Sue Thomas. “There’s a lot of trash, a lot of garbage, fertilizer, chemicals. It’s a hazard to the environment, a hazard to hikers.”

Oregon
A public menace
[snip]Illegal marijuana plantations on government lands are expanding, putting forest users at risk, say Southern Oregon law officers.

Unlike domestic pot operations of years past, many of the plantations now growing on federal land are operated by Mexican drug-trafficking organizations who are well-financed and well-armed, the sheriffs said.

“The longer it goes on, the harder it will be for us to overcome,” Winters told Walden. “They are better funded than us ... There are more of them than there are of us.”

A separate 2008 NDIC report on cartel-related drug-trafficking organizations said the Federation cartel was active in Klamath Falls, and undetermined cartels were working in Medford and Roseburg.

The Justice Department’s 2010 national drug threat assessment concluded the operations “constitute the greatest drug-trafficking threat” to the nation.

http://towncriernews.blogspot.com/2010/08/alien-mexican-cartels-occupy-land-all.html

"I’ve been thinking of either Idaho or Montana, someplace with forests and mountains. How does Idaho compare with Montana in terms of conservatism?"

Idaho vs. Montana? Hmm. First, Idaho is two states that are quit different. I have lived in Northern Idaho and now live in Southern Idaho (I grew up in Texas).

Northern Idaho was built on logging and mining and they maintain the mindset of rugged mountain-man individualism. There are churches although usually not very big. Christians are certainly in the minority with many not having any experience with church. Although if they are Christian they are usual very committed beyond those in the Bible belt. Northern Idaho is beautiful rugged timbered mountains with rivers and creeks galore.

Southern Idaho is dominated by the huge Snake River Valley that stretches across the state and is flanked by mountains. The valley is high desert that is fertile farm land when irrigated. LDS is the dominate religion with a considerable amount of Evangelical Christians.

Idaho politically is mostly Republican. I have read that Idaho is one on the most conservative states in the nation which I think is based on the percentage of Republicans. My own thoughts are, we are to dependent on the federal government. the majority of the land in Idaho is under the control of the feds via the US Forest Service and Bureau of Land Management. This federal control has eroded the production of logging and mining over the last few decades and left the state dependent on federal funds as the majority of the lands are not on the state and county tax-rolls. Also for a conservative state I am sure taxed alot. Our sales tax is 6% and we have a personal income tax that ranges from 1.6% to 7.8%. That is over 13% for some of us.

But in the end I live here by choice. I love the mountains and the people. I travel a lot, but there is no feeling like coming home to Idaho!

As for Montana, I am going to leave how conservative it is for someone with more first hand experience living in Montana.

Montana has some beautiful mountains and my favorite National Park is Glacier National Park. Crossing the "Going to the Sun Road" in the park gives me a sense of God's majesty and awesome creation. It is a beautiful place.