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High Level Logic: Rethinking Software Reuse in the 21st Century
High Level Logic (HLL) Open Source Project ^ | September 20, 2010 | Roger F. Gay

Posted on 09/20/2010 8:52:32 AM PDT by RogerFGay

Introduction

An application programmer spends six months perfecting a set of components commonly needed in the large company that employs him. Some of the components were particularly tricky and key pieces required very high quality, reliable and complex exception handling. It has all been tuned to run quickly and efficiently. Thorough testing has demonstrated his success. Part of his idea of “perfection” was to build in a way that the software, even many of the individual components, could easily be reused. But it is surprisingly likely that no one outside of a small group within the project will ever hear of it.

Tens of thousands of programmers building thousands of applications, repeatedly building the same functionality over and over again. A collective nightmare for CFOs. There are those who believe that the problem has been addressed with “best practice” object oriented programming techniques, enterprise frameworks, and strategic development of specialized open source systems. Certainly they are right – up to a point.

While many available tools and good programming technique offer opportunities to reuse software, and most definitely reduce the need to rebuild many “lower level” (relatively speaking) functions, they also facilitate development of much more complex systems and provide a plethora of gizmos for doing old things in new ways, producing a never-ending stream of reasons to update what has already been done. Out there on the edge, where application programming actually takes place, the software reuse problem is a moving target.

Generally speaking, the benefits of software reuse far outweigh the costs. [1] But in the messy world of real-world application development, the challenge can be complex. Many managers value rapid prototypers over “best practice” engineers, not understanding that building on somewhat sloppy early results will typically and dramatically increase project time and cost and reduce quality. In larger organizations with shared interests, they wonder which project should bear the increased cost of building reusable software components? Who pays the cost of searching the (sometimes huge, distributed, and insufficiently documented) code-base to look for possible matches? Should a software project focus time and money on special packaging, documentation, and “marketing” material to promote reuse of components it builds?

I believe it is possible to realign the software development process in a way that will make everyone happy; from the executives who will see measurable improvements in productivity, to project managers pushing for rapid results, to the programmers who fantasize about widespread use of their best work, to the CFOs who see the company mission fulfilled on a smaller software maintenance budget.

Such a dramatic statement needs a theatrical follow-up. In the spirit of The Graduate, I just want to say one word to you – just one word. Are you listening?

Configuration.

Exactly what do I mean by that? There is a great future in configuration. Think about it. Will you think about it? … Shh! Enough said. That's a deal.

OK, it's not actually enough said in this context. I'll get back to “configuration” below. What I want you to think about first, really think about, is that this is the age of software components.

In the distant past, it was easy to see that it would be useful to represent often repeated binary sequences in hexadecimal code, then an obvious step to package sections of code into a machine language to handle common operations at a higher level. Then combine those into commonly used functions. It's been almost a half century since we got a little excited about “structured programming.” We built functions and libraries, and once again noticed that program structure and flow as well as development tasks often had commonalities across applications. Special tools emerged. It has been thirty-five years since the first IDE was created.

Believe it or not, it has been a half century since an object oriented programming language with classes and instances of objects, as well as subclasses, virtual methods, co-routines, and discrete event simulation emerged from research in artificial intelligence (Simula 67). C with Classes was renamed C++ in 1983 and developers quickly replaced their C compilers with C/C++ compilers. The Java Language Project was initiated in 1991 and Sun Microsystems offered the first “Write Once, Run Anywhere” public implementation in 1995 and the first release of the Java Enterprise Edition in 1999. This is the age of software components. But even one decade is a very long time in the software world. One might almost expect that something new is about to happen.

One word - “Configuration.”

If you're entrepreneurial, perhaps you have already realized that you could package sets of useful components as finished product suites (components = products). If you are an independent consultant or operate a specialized software development company, you can offer high quality services based on proven technology with your own product suite(s). (Shame on you if you don't already.)

But let's say that you want to build a complete system, for some purpose, that does something besides impress people with its quality and reusability in the development process – an application. Adaptation by configuration is pervasive. Here are some examples.

Word processing software serves a very specialized purpose. It is adaptable by configuration. You can install specialized language support, adjust the characteristics of various text blocks, add templates for complete (reusable) document layouts, and even adapt it for use by the visually impaired. Some word processing systems are also extensible.

Lotus Notes has a history that reaches back into the 1970s (PLATO Notes). It is familiar to many software developers (and others) as an interactive, networked system that is adaptable (by configuration) to the specifics of a project or other activity, and also extensible. This is a bit more general than a word processor, providing a suite of services, but still somewhat specialized. IBM offers both extensions and tools. Custom code can in fact be added to extend the capabilities of the out-of-the-box system. Extending the concept, Lotus Sametime is offered as middleware for building custom networked applications.

WordPress “is web software you can use to create a beautiful website or blog,” says the WordPress website. “We like to say that WordPress is both free and priceless at the same time.”

The core software is built by hundreds of community volunteers, and when you’re ready for more there are thousands of plug-ins and themes available to transform your site into almost anything you can imagine. Over 25 million people have chosen WordPress to power the place on the web they call “home”.
People all over the world build and post their own components. It doesn't take a software professional or layers of bureaucracy to select and add powerful new interactive features (beyond visitor comments and smiley faces) to customize websites. Welcome to the 21st century (and pervasive CMS)!

The Brave New World

What if you could do that with all software development? And what if a major portion of the reusable software components in a company, starting with their design, were treated seriously as independent internal products rather than vaguely outlined portions of a large pile of 1s and 0s? The idea might be much more practical than you think.

The shift to object oriented programming changed the way programmers think about creating systems. Components are what systems are made of these days. This major technological paradigm shift has also had a major impact on project process; which now leans toward “lean,” discrete, and agile. [5]

Some of the most complex and potentially expensive aspects of software reuse involve getting all the software organized, identified, documented, and searchable. But consider what is already inherent in the tools and processes commonly used by modern software engineers. Software objects are arranged in packages. In best practice, naming of packages and components is systematic and aims to make functional purpose easy to recognize. Package identifiers can also serve to direct programs to the physical location of each component. Documentation on individual objects, arranged in packages, can be automatically generated (easy to organize and keep up-to-date).

Best software practices encourage reusability. If I'm creating an application that reads and interprets 25 XML files, it only makes sense to write one (only one) general purpose read and parse component for XML files, so long as that is possible, rather than new code for each file. Only that part which must be treated uniquely requires additional code.

My experienced observation is that much of the time, in common practice, building nifty general purpose code is less expensive than building sloppy spaghetti code. Building good code from the start dramatically decreases project time and cost. There will be fewer avoidable complexities in downstream development, fewer bugs, and consistently higher quality. Consider also that experience matters. Developers who spend their careers building good code, not only prefer doing the job right, but become extremely efficient at it. When they design, what will come to their minds is good code, not junk. When they implement the design, they are quite familiar with the techniques and details needed to build good code.

From a variety of perspectives, developing reusable components in the spirit of discrete products is beneficial, and the time is right. What more is needed then, to maximize the benefits of software reuse?

Regular Stuff + Artificial Intelligence = Something

The Java language and frameworks like Java EE continue the development path that started with binary sequences in the first section of this article. They differ in that one does not generally innovate on the concept of adding two integers, for example. Initially, getting good fast versions of common functionality for a variety of machines was the point. Both Java SE and Java EE (and others) provide support for higher level functionality supporting, for example, a variety of ways to move data around on a network for display and processing.

In the world of artificial intelligence research however, it seems people enjoy branching off in new directions, “moving things around” (so to speak) to change the character of computing. The old research definition for AI was simply to get computers to do things that at present, humans do better. From the start, people thought about moving the human role (part of it anyway) into the computer.

In the mid to late 1980s, complex rule-processing software came on the market. New companies emerged marketing “expert systems” tools, large companies invested, and more powerful rule-processing capabilities were added to existing commercial products like database systems. A slightly deeper look yields something more interesting than a packaged way to process lots of “if-then” statements. AI researchers wanted to move logic out of application programs and into a general processing engine, with application logic treated as data. I'm going to cast that into the perspective I offer now, with a description that the researchers and developers at that time may never have used. Expert systems applications were built by configuring the processing engine with a rule base (and other information).

More powerful systems like KEE became commercially available in the same decade, incorporating a new and powerful programming component - objects - into the mix. The object oriented programming concept itself repackaged some of the common elements of complete applications into individual components; not just by definition, but by encouraged design practice. Its introduction was disruptive, setting vast numbers of working engineers to the task of rethinking how software systems should be written. An “object” you say? Sounds classy!

My agent is on the phone.

“A software agent is a piece of software that acts for a user or other program in a relationship of agency,” says Wikipedia (citing two sources [2][3]). Agent technology also has a history. The concept can be traced back to 1973 [4]. An actor is "a self-contained, interactive and concurrently-executing object, possessing internal state and communication capability.” One might call it the ultimate object.

Agent technology has already emerged from artificial intelligence laboratories. Modern agents extend the “Write Once, Run Anywhere” idea, even to the extent that there are what might be called “door-to-door” salesman varieties; traveling agents (also called robots, bots, web spiders and crawlers and even viruses) that move around the Internet (sometimes duplicating themselves) to perform tasks.

The telecommunications industry recognizes the importance of a new technology that screams to be used as a central processing system for a wide range of applications that can service the wide range of networked devices available today. JADE (Java Agent DEvelopment Framework) is a free software Framework distributed by Telecom Italia, that “simplifies the implementation of multi-agent systems.”

It changes the way you think about software development. Don't worry about the wide range of interfaces needed for so many devices. They're supported. Don't worry about the complexities of communication. The code is written and maintained by someone else. This goes beyond the relatively “low level” programming components available in IDEs and support offered by higher level development frameworks like Java EE. Much of “the system” already exists. Just focus on the very specialized components needed for your particular application that can be cast into the agent framework. Only that part which must be treated uniquely requires additional code.

You then let the framework know when your agents are needed. When they are, they get the call; automatically. And by the way; intelligent agents can sense when they are needed and respond appropriately, even learn and adapt to new circumstances.

Sometimes one is not enough. A multi-agent system (MAS) is a system composed of multiple interacting intelligent agents. Multi-agent systems can be used to solve problems which are difficult or impossible for an individual agent or monolithic system to solve. Examples of problems which are appropriate to multi-agent systems research include online trading, disaster response, and modeling social structures.

High Level Logic

OK, quick! Think of a way to go beyond what's been discussed so far.

How about this?

One more thing, while we're on the subject of code reuse.Now what you have is an outline for a system known as “High Level Logic” - HLL. The High Level Logic (HLL) Open Source Project stems from a history that goes back into the 1980s, as a concept for unleashing the power of expert systems. Prototype software was more recently built as part of a larger intelligent robotics project. The commitment to open-source development was made in July, 2010.

Although the development project is now (September 2010) at an early stage, there is sufficient software available to create applications. The plans to complete the first complete “light-weight” version, using only Java SE, that will have the full set of characteristics described above are quite concrete, already committed to specific technical issues logged in the project's issues tracker. An outline for a somewhat heavier version using Java EE components is given on the project description page.

Yet Another Path to Code Reuse

Subtly perhaps, four different approaches to code reuse have been mentioned and illustrated in this article.

First, the development of higher-level languages involved assigning names to commonly used bits of logic in lower level coding and the development of tools to translate (interpreters, compilers, …) back into lower level code. One common implementation of the lower level code was then used by everyone using the same higher level language (compiler …).

Second, object-oriented computing involved re-organizing some of the processes common to applications from the complete application level, down to component level.

Third, a more open mass use of certain web-based technologies led to common application cores and shared extensions. (Proprietary: Lotus Notes → Open: WordPress; and also more on the extreme techie side, consider the history of Sun Java development).

Fourth, highly innovative research identified distributed application logic that could be extracted into generic processing engines.

At least one more exists, which will be the subject of later articles. Learning and adaptive software has already reached well into the stage of commercial use. Developers write code explaining the results they want. The learning system automatically creates the code. There are many circumstances in which the same specification code written by developers can be reused on various platforms (physically different robots for example) in different environments and for different purposes (identifying and moving different objects in new environments for example). Even existing application code can be reused and automatically adapted to differences.

The direction of HLL incorporates all of the above providing a useful general purpose application platform rather than a specialized application platform (like CMS for example). It will be part of the purpose of the HLL Blog to provide further focus on these characteristics of the HLL system.

Given the current state of HLL, there is at least one characteristic that should be emphasized. Application developers focus their coding work only on those components that are unique to their application. There is a great deal of flexibility in what can be done on the application, because – simply – there are no restrictions. Java developers, for example, can write any kind of Java components they wish. The HLL engine can use components from anywhere an HLL system exits on any installed HLL system (component sharing). Components that builders wish to be accessed by HLL are named (like higher level language), and accessible to HLL systems through their configurations.

This aspect of HLL is worth emphasizing. It is the intent, that – especially as an organization builds its library of reusable functionality – application development will be largely a matter of configuration; and that's a very good reason to push reusable code development.

References:

  1. SOFTWARE REUSE ECONOMICS: COST-BENEFIT ANALYSIS ON A LARGE-SCALE ADA PROJECT, Johan Margono and Thomas E. Rhoads, Computer Sciences Corporation, System Sciences Division. (I believe this 1992 article in ACM, which I found freely available on the Internet, is still quite relevant. Margono and Rhoads however, did not say “benefits … far outweigh the costs.” They actually said; “benefits … have so far outweighed the costs. We believe that this will continue to be the case.” Eighteen years later, with a great variety of new advantages mentioned in this current article, it is surely even more true due to long-term technical focus on the issue; and this article recasts the issue in that light. We've come a long way.)
  2. Nwana, H.S. 1996. Software Agents: An Overview. Knowledge Engineering Review, Vol.11, No.3, 205-244, Cambridge University Press
  3. Schermer, B.W., Software agents, surveillance, and the right to privacy: A legislative framework for agent-enabled surveillance. Leiden University Press, 2007, p.140.
  4. Carl Hewitt; Peter Bishop and Richard Steiger (1973). A Universal Modular Actor Formalism for Artificial Intelligence. IJCAI.
  5. Agile software development methods Review and analysis, Pekka Abrahamsson, Outi Salo, Jussi Ronkainen, and Juhani Warsta, Espoo 2002, VTT Publications 478, 109 p.


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KEYWORDS: agents; ai; business; frameworks; jade; java; lotus; objects; reuse; software; wordpress
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To: discostu
You can talk a lot about best practices and libraries and everything else, but the punchline is that unless people know there’s something in house that’s already solved Problem X they aren’t going to go looking for that code to use, they’re going to write their own.

That's been my experience. Ada, the language put out by the DOD for bid and designed & built by multiple committees was supposed to address that. "A camel is a horse designed by a committee". And a camel is what they got. The earliest implementations, with perhaps the exception of Verdix Ada (after it matured a bit), were mostly pretty bad. A few iterations (and a lot of in-the-field experience) later, Ada has gotten pretty good.

Of course, the proliferation of different software licenses on code hasn't helped either. Basic example - you cannot incorporate GPL code into BSD licensed code (the GPL is a viral license that requires all of the code it is linked with become GPL), however you can incorporate LGPL code into BSD licensed code. Some Open Source projects, notably from the FSF are even stricter, they not only require GPLed submissions, but the copyright must also be assigned to the FSF.

Certain software projects like XEmacs (which was a fork of GNU Emacs in the early 1990s by the now defunct Lucid) require GPL licensed contributions. Others like Emacs require not only GPL licensed contributions, but they must also be copyright assigned to the FSF. When Lucid went bankrupt and orphaned XEmacs as Open Source in its bankruptcy, it was in the position of being GPL, but unable for the most part to share code back with the parent.

There is a time and place for lawyers, but in the field of software development their involvement has been little short of disastrous.

Been there, done that, tried to change the world and it didn't quite work out, although I'm quite proud of how XEmacs has turned out. It's still my favorite text editor. (grep for "altair" in XEmacs ChangeLog files, that's me).

61 posted on 09/20/2010 3:50:56 PM PDT by altair (Violence is the last refuge of the incompetent - Salvor Hardin)
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To: RogerFGay
Yes, JSP does offer an alternative to in page scripting. I don’t use it myself, but never thought there was much reason to argue with people who do. At first, it looked like you had to refresh whole pages to use it - which irritated me to no end, so I argued against using it myself. You could do it so much nicer with Ye Olde DOM techniques.

I use Apache Wicket for my Java-based web development, it's awesome, mark up pages with plain-old HTML, no tags, scriptlets or any of that garbage, any control can be easily AJAX-capable.

62 posted on 09/20/2010 3:56:54 PM PDT by dfwgator (Rangers Magic Number - 6)
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To: McGruff

I code in 0s and 1s, and sometimes we don’t even have the 1s.

(Stolen from a Dilbert cartoon)


63 posted on 09/20/2010 3:58:29 PM PDT by dfwgator (Rangers Magic Number - 6)
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To: MortMan; RogerFGay
I work in an industry where unneeded and unused functionality is anathema - and will prevent certification of the system containing the software. Adaptive reuse - using the design as a template for the construction of a tailored solution - is a better alternative in my industry.

Hmmm. Smells like avionics or process control.

I was around when "software reuse" became the big buzzword and Ada was introduced as a measure (in part) to reduce software development cost in increasingly computerized military systems. It didn't really work at the time, but it felt good to a lot of manager types.

The problem is identifying what is the difference between hard real time requirements (and I only define "hard" as in if you miss taking action and someone will get killed or injured or something is damaged or destroyed, but that's not the standard definition) and just keeping the system usable.

Technology cannot eliminate the difference in requirements for different applications.

I have to agree, much as I am in love with the idea of software reuse. However, I would like to s/cannot eliminate/has not yet eliminated/. I'm an optimist. I may not live to solve it, but perhaps one of my sons will. One thing that my reading in history has convinced me of is "never misunderestimate the power of the human mind".

64 posted on 09/20/2010 4:27:24 PM PDT by altair (Violence is the last refuge of the incompetent - Salvor Hardin)
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To: altair; RogerFGay

I’m in aerospace software.

I have to admit to being an Ada-phile. I like the language a lot more than C++, and find it very, very powerful, without carrying the inherent danger of blowing one’s rhetorical foot off! ;-P

Oh well...

Y’all have a great evening.


65 posted on 09/20/2010 5:16:50 PM PDT by MortMan (Obama's response to the Gulf oil spill: a four-putt.)
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To: altair
I have to agree, much as I am in love with the idea of software reuse. However, I would like to s/cannot eliminate/has not yet eliminated/. I'm an optimist. I may not live to solve it, but perhaps one of my sons will. One thing that my reading in history has convinced me of is "never misunderestimate the power of the human mind".

I have no doubt about the power of the human mind, but my comment has more to do with the plain fact that hard real-time embedded systems are driven by their requirements, which are expression of the functions performed by the system. If the systems didn't necessarily perform different functions, then one would likely avoid the cost of developing a separate, dissimilar system unless there were some other compelling reason to do so. Most businessmen don't purposefully waste money, so...

The power of reuse is embodied by the essence of object-oriented programming, where hierarchical construction allows for overlays on top of basic functionality, lending the ability to specialize a generic object. Were it not for the inherent dead and deactivated code (not to mention the compiler-invented subroutines outside the view of mortal men), this would be a perfect solution to most applications - once embedded computers get fast enough to absorb the bloat.

Of course, in aero the life span of a given system is measured in decades, meaning some of the processors still out there (and being upgraded) may be pre-1980 technology! It kind of makes the "processing power" tsunami into a bathtub wave - not much impact! LOL

66 posted on 09/20/2010 5:26:08 PM PDT by MortMan (Obama's response to the Gulf oil spill: a four-putt.)
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To: The Working Man
By the time I got out of the biz a single line of code being changed cost a half a million bucks and 6 months of time in meetings, testing, meetings, yada-yada.

Dilber is right on top of it as usual:

Cheers!

67 posted on 09/20/2010 8:06:06 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: RogerFGay
Good to see ya, Roger!

Stay well ................. FRegards

68 posted on 09/20/2010 8:30:53 PM PDT by gonzo ( Buy more ammo, dammit! You should already have the firearms .................. FRegards)
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To: grey_whiskers

What is even funnier than your cartoon is the fact that, that particular one used to grace the inside wall of my cubicle where I could only see it.

Until, that is my manager issued the diktat that all cartoons and posters needed to be removed from all cubicles.

And Yes, there is a Dilbert cartoon on that too.

Art reflecting life.


69 posted on 09/21/2010 3:36:27 AM PDT by The Working Man
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To: DigitalVideoDude

I guess Java wasn’t sufficient...

http://arstechnica.com/open-source/news/2009/06/android-goes-beyond-java-gains-native-cc-dev-kit.ars


70 posted on 09/21/2010 5:55:52 AM PDT by Pessimist
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To: JimKalb; Free the USA; EdReform; realwoman; Orangedog; Lorianne; Outlaw76; balrog666; DNA Rules; ...

old fashioned ping


71 posted on 09/21/2010 8:37:35 AM PDT by RogerFGay
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To: gonzo
Is this the gonzo?
72 posted on 09/21/2010 8:42:02 AM PDT by RogerFGay
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To: MortMan
Thanks for stopping by. We're still trying to figure out how to convince aerospace that they can use learning / adaptive software safely. The first reaction is always - what if it decides to do something crazy?
73 posted on 09/21/2010 8:45:01 AM PDT by RogerFGay
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To: discostu

>>The only method I’ve ever seen work to get people reusing code is full group code reviews. <<

Same here. But my experience is from the 80’s and 90’s, when the group was all English speaking Americans.

It is a challenge today.


74 posted on 09/21/2010 9:27:26 AM PDT by RobRoy (The US Today: Revelation 18:4)
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To: discostu

>>The only method I’ve ever seen work to get people reusing code is full group code reviews. <<

Same here. But my experience is from the 80’s and 90’s, when the group was all English speaking Americans sitting in the same room with a whiteboard.

It is a challenge today.


75 posted on 09/21/2010 9:27:54 AM PDT by RobRoy (The US Today: Revelation 18:4)
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To: RobRoy

Another one of the problems of out sourcing, makes it really hard to get the dev team together for information sharing.


76 posted on 09/21/2010 9:28:55 AM PDT by discostu (Keyser Soze lives)
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To: discostu
Another one of the problems of out sourcing, makes it really hard to get the dev team together for information sharing.

Not so much the case now with video conferencing, bridge calls and instant messaging.

77 posted on 09/21/2010 9:32:39 AM PDT by dfwgator (Rangers Magic Number - 6)
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To: altair
Your post reminded me of this for some reason:

http://activerain.com/blogsview/92457/2007-n2a-motors-789-the-best-of-the-1950-s-chevy-

78 posted on 09/21/2010 9:33:37 AM PDT by RobRoy (The US Today: Revelation 18:4)
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To: dfwgator

Video conferencing and bridge calls are overrated. I’ve dialed into a phone in a meeting room and it’s basically worthless. If you have everybody sitting at their desk using a webex thing half of them are screwing around on the web ignoring the meeting. And of course for a full run code review you’re talking about a week or two of these meetings that are really boring but you really want people paying attention, there’s no replacement for everybody being in the same room for something like that.


79 posted on 09/21/2010 9:37:06 AM PDT by discostu (Keyser Soze lives)
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To: discostu

I suppose as with most things, YMMV.


80 posted on 09/21/2010 9:38:25 AM PDT by dfwgator (Rangers Magic Number - 6)
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