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Two wrongs don't make a right (Pastor Jones backs away from plans to burn the Quran)
http://toddkinsey.com/Two-wrongs-dont-make-a-right.html ^

Posted on 09/09/2010 3:17:49 PM PDT by Todd Kinsey

I think most rational thinking people will agree that Pastor Terry Jones made the right decision to scrap his plan to burn the Quran at the Dove World Outreach Center in Gainesville, Florida on the anniversary of 9/11. No one can deny that he has a Constitutional right to do so; the question is – whether it is morally right to do so?

Conversely an overwhelming majority of American’s object to the Cordoba Group’s plan to build a Mosque at Ground Zero in New York. Again, the question isn't whether they have a right to build the mosque – the question is whether it is morally correct to do so?

We have all heard the saying “two wrongs don’t make a right” and that is exactly the situation we are left with here. As a Christian, I would be offended if someone burned a Bible although I know they have a Constitutional right to do so. As a combat veteran, I am outraged when I see the American Flag burned although I understand people have a right to do so.

Liberals are quick to tell us that we must be tolerant of opposing lifestyles and views. As Michael Douglas says in his speech in the movie The American President, America is advanced citizenship.”

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TOPICS: Government; Politics; Religion; Society
KEYWORDS: groundzeromosque; islam; pastorjones; quran

1 posted on 09/09/2010 3:17:53 PM PDT by Todd Kinsey
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To: Todd Kinsey

So they are admitting THE 9/11 VICTORY MOSQUE/NON-MOSQUE IS *WRONG*?!?

Anyone else kinda hoping Pastor Jones decides to carry on with throwing the quran on the barbie after all????


2 posted on 09/09/2010 3:21:37 PM PDT by pillut48 (Whenever O says, "Let me be clear," you know what is to follow is a bunch of nuanced BS!)
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To: Todd Kinsey

Only problem is. Rauf has said that he will not move it. He has threatened that if he moves it there will be yell to pay. Jones may have been snookered and I’m wondering if that’s going to make him a little angry. It ain’t over yet.


3 posted on 09/09/2010 3:21:59 PM PDT by CynicalBear
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To: Todd Kinsey

The pastor already made his point, getting the Obama administration to admit on the record that Muslims react violently and savagely to any perceived slight.


4 posted on 09/09/2010 3:26:10 PM PDT by cvq3842
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To: CynicalBear

Maybe Jones did the “right” thing and now will demand the muslims do the right thing. I can hope.

What it actually sounds like is once again America has told the muslims that we’ll bow to their every demand.

Personally, even as a Christian, someone burning the Bible doesn’t bother me. It’s not the Bible that counts. It’s the words that are in it.


5 posted on 09/09/2010 3:26:23 PM PDT by Terry Mross (o)
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To: Todd Kinsey
We have all heard the saying “two wrongs don’t make a right” and that is exactly the situation we are left with here.

BS. Burning a book about a theocratic form of government is NOT equal to building a victory monument close to the spot where 2,600 people were murdered by the same theocratic form of government.

6 posted on 09/09/2010 3:30:46 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If Bam is the answer, the question was stupid.)
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To: CynicalBear

Methinks the Pastor is happy, he got his 15 minutes.


7 posted on 09/09/2010 3:32:10 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: cvq3842

agree


8 posted on 09/09/2010 3:39:40 PM PDT by nkycincinnatikid
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To: Todd Kinsey

Burning a book is a freedom of expression, just as writing a book is.

Not all books are equal. Some are useful and productive, some are evil and terrible for society.

At least in this country we allow books on all different religions. In islamic countries most do not allow bibles or churches and in fact burn bibles and churches and kill Christians. They routinely burn bibles when found. They are illegal to possess and people get beaten up and jail time for having them. They kill people who convert from islam to another faith. This is a one time event, the muslims do this as a matter and standing duty of sharia law.

One dinky church burning a koran in a tolerant country of 300+ million is hardly equal to what muslims do to other religions and other people of faith in islamic countries.

If anyone believes they are equal they are not living in the real world.

finally I do not have a problem with a pastor burning an evil book. I would not have a problem with him burning any evil books. Would we care if he burned a satanic bible by Anton LeVay? I wouldn’t. It’s an evil book. Allah is just another name for Satan. Islam is a satanic religion. It is opposite to Christianity:

1. Christians deal with offenses to their religion all the time without the world worrying they will become violent. Our government even FUNDS such garbage - like Maplethorpe and “Piss Christ” with the crucifix in the jar of urine. Muslims fake offense and scream about violence and being unable to control themselves - all this crap from the supposed ‘religion of peace’. Killing people for drawing Mohammed. Gimme a damn break.

2. Christians do not have a system in place to treat unbelievers as second class, force unbelievers to pay religious protection taxes, or deny unbelievers from certain jobs and government positions. Sharia law of the muslims does all this. Non-muslims are second class citizens, they have far less rights than muslims, they have to pay the jizya tax, they are denied certain jobs and government offices and may not be allowed in the military.

3. We tolerate nonbelievers in our country and let them practice their faith as long as it doesn’t violate our nations’ laws. Islamic states HAVE LAWS that do not allow bibles, other people’s religions being praticed in their lands, without legal and criminal penalties. They do not tolerate other religions well in their islamic states.

4. Christians do not go around in mobs hacking up muslims, screaming about “Death to - insert any islamic nation here” and burning mosques and korans. We don’t do this. Muslims around the world do.

5. Christians do not force anyone to convert to Christianity. We do not have a ‘convert or die’ mentality. This forced coercion does occur in islamic states. Regularly.

6. Christians do not kidnap muslims from their families and force them to convert and marry a muslim. This happens routinely in islamic countries to Christian families, with their daughters, in particular.

7. The timeline of the Bible goes from the Old Testament (living under the law) to the New Testament (living under grace and trying to keep the law as best as we can). We are living in an age where we proclaim God’s grace is available to all mankind, jew and gentile. The Koran, however, has the first half of their Surahs being nice and complimentary to jews and Christians, but the later Surahs becoming increasingly violent and deceptive towards jews and Christians. In the Koran, the later Surahs that contradict earlier Surahs on an issue take precedent - it is called “abrogation”. Basically the bible moves from the harshness of the law to God’s grace we are under now; the Koran goes from respecting jews and Christians (the people of the book) to killing those that will not convert and permitting deception of non-believers if it furthers islam.


9 posted on 09/09/2010 3:45:30 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: Todd Kinsey

Move the burning to a non disclosed location, and have a weenie roast.


10 posted on 09/09/2010 3:51:44 PM PDT by pallis
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To: Todd Kinsey

firewithfire


11 posted on 09/09/2010 4:04:26 PM PDT by FrankR (It doesn't matter what they call us, only what we answer to....)
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To: Terry Mross

Phew! Take another pill


12 posted on 09/09/2010 4:13:41 PM PDT by MtnMan101 (THE PROBLEM WITH SOCIALISUM IS THAT YOU EVENTUALLY RUN OUT OF OTHER PEOPLE'S MONEY)
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To: Secret Agent Man

The trouble with those who practice Islam is their perception of God. Their god is a vengeful god with no love for mankind and no guarantees you have salvation. This sets up a dynamic where its members must go through extreme measures of works to gain their god’s acceptance and salvation. This is where the leaders are able to manipulate their members with requirements including self sacrifice and the killing of innocent “infidels” in order to make themselves acceptable. It is a form of slavery where fear and guilt are used for their maximum effect.

If these followers of Islam were to find Christianity, they would experience a freedom that make their lives fulfilled. This is why their leaders are so oppressive so that their members do not discover the truth of Christianity.


13 posted on 09/09/2010 5:00:52 PM PDT by jonrick46 (We're being water boarded with the sewage of Fabian Socialism.)
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To: Todd Kinsey
Two wrongs don't make a right

No, but three lefts do.

14 posted on 09/09/2010 5:06:00 PM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate: Republicans freed the slaves Month.)
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To: pillut48

I must admit that I was.


15 posted on 09/14/2010 11:40:30 AM PDT by Todd Kinsey (Todd)
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To: pillut48

I must admit that I was.


16 posted on 09/14/2010 11:40:47 AM PDT by Todd Kinsey (Todd)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

Add one more and you’ve got a NASCAR race. Thanks for reading. TK


17 posted on 09/14/2010 11:41:50 AM PDT by Todd Kinsey (Todd)
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