The Truth about Obama's Muslim 'Faith'

The American Thinker ^ | August 23, 2010 | Selwyn Duke

[Scanian]

Now that Barack Obama has decided to be for the Ground Zero mosque before being implicitly against it (perhaps), discussion about his faith has once again reached a fever pitch. To many, his stance proves he's a Muslim, with a recent poll showing that almost 20 percent of Americans hold that opinion; to others, it just reflects a desire to be faithful to the Constitution (now, that would be change). The truth, however, is a bit more nuanced. Obama is not religiously Muslim. Culturally, though...well, that's a different matter altogether.

In reality, calling Obama a "Muslim" gives him too much credit. As G.K. Chesterton once said, "We call a man a bigot or a slave of dogma because he is a thinker who has thought thoroughly and to a definite end." The truth, however, is that few people have thought thoroughly and to a definite end. And Obama is no exception. He hasn't even thought matters through enough to understand the folly of statism. Even more to the point, he is a moral relativist, a position the antithesis of any absolutist faith. Inherent in Islam is that belief that Allah, not man, has authored right and wrong and that, consequently, it isn't a matter of opinion. Thus, Obama cannot truly believe in Islam -- or in Christianity or Judaism, for that matter.

Oh, and since some will ask, how do I know Obama is a relativist? It's simple: Virtually all leftists are, as the denial of moral reality that is relativism lies at the heart of liberalism.

Speaking of relativists, this matter of Obama's "faith" much reminds me of Adolf Hitler and paganism. Like Obama, Hitler sometimes feigned a belief in Christianity, but in reality he held the religion in contempt. He believed it was "the greatest trick the Jews ever played on Western civilization" and lamented that it was not a warrior creed like Islam or the ancient Germanic paganism with which the Nazis wanted to replace Christianity (I wrote about this here). Yet while Hitler's second in command, Heinrich Himmler, certainly believed in the ancient pagan myths -- going so far as to launch expeditions to the Far East to prove them, à la Raiders of the Lost Ark -- it's silly to think that the leader himself viewed them as anything but a utilitarian device. He wasn't quite that romantic.

But what about culturally? For sure, Hitler preferred seeing Swastikas and runes (respectively, pagan symbols and letters) to crosses and crèches, rebuilt Germanic pagan temples to churches. That was where his passions lay. (If some are upset at a comparison between Hitler and Obama, know that I'd never call the president a National Socialist. He's an international socialist. Also, Hitler was patriotic.)

Obama also has passions, and there is no question as to where they lie. As journalist Todd Fitchette wrote in "The un-faith of Obama,"

... he continues to openly praise Islam; he bows to Muslim leaders; he claims that the Muslim call to prayer is "the most beautiful sound in the world;" he regularly quotes from the Koran and cites it for directing his life; ...

"In the past year alone he made a big deal out of hosting a celebratory dinner to open the month of Ramadan -- held in the state dining room; he refused to attend the 100th anniversary of the Boy Scouts (an avowed Christian organization), and, refused to attend the National Day of Prayer because he claimed to do so would be offensive to non-Christians."

Then there is that king of Freudian slips, when Obama matter-of-factly said to interviewer George Stephanopoulos, "You're absolutely right that John McCain has not talked about my Muslim faith," and he didn't seem headed for a correction until Stephanopoulos interjected. (Note: This doesn't contradict my assertion that Obama has no real faith. Nancy Pelosi has spoken of her Catholic faith, but, as she is also a relativist, it can be nothing more than part of her cultural tapestry.)

And are Obama's passions surprising? He spent some of his formative years in the world's most populous Muslim country, Indonesia, where he was registered as a Muslim in both schools he attended and sometimes prayed on Fridays in a mosque. Moreover, there is another factor, one most people don't consider.

As many know, there once was a great boxer named Cassius Clay. He converted to Islam in 1964, seemingly bothered that Jesus was portrayed as "a white with blond hair and blue eyes," as he put it, and took the name "Muhammad Ali." Of course, the irony of this is that despite being intensely aware of his slave roots, Ali rejected the name of an abolitionist (Clay) and took the name of a slave-owner (Muhammad). It also perhaps eluded him that Christians were the first ones to outlaw slavery, while Muslims give black Africans rope and chains to this day.

But I mention this because Ali's path is a common one in the black community; it is why we've long had the Black Muslims and why Islamic names are so common among American blacks. Many blacks have bought the bill of goods that Christianity is the white man's religion, the faith of oppressors. And they embrace Islam as part of a rejection of "white" society.

Obviously, being part of this milieu could only have reinforced Obama's affinity for things Muslim and antipathy for things authentically Christian -- of which Western civilization is one. And if Americans hadn't been brainwashed with political correctness, they would understand this. With foreign and domestic Muslim influence; attendance at a Black Liberation Theology, pseudo-Christian church; and alliances with ex-terrorists and declared communists, Obama perfectly fits the profile of an America-hater. The wolf never really wore sheep's clothing; it's just that Americans had wool pulled over their eyes.

As for Obama's eyes, they cannot look heavenward when they're so busy looking down on little people who "cling to guns and religion." I sense that Obama is a certain kind of person, one much like Hitler -- who wanted to create a new German pagan religion with himself at its center -- in a particular sense. This type of person essentially says the following to God: "The universe just isn't big enough for the two of us." And his little world certainly isn't, filled to all corners as it is with his bloated, power-hungry ego. This, by the way, has been acknowledged by more honest secularists. For example, Friedrich Nietzsche, the 19th-century poster boy for atheism who is rumored to have been a philosopher (in reality, he is someone who helped discredit the field), once said through his version of Zarathustra, "If there were gods, how could I endure it to be no God? Therefore there can be no gods." I have a feeling that Obama cannot endure it to be no god.

It is, again, unwise to give Obama too much credit. Good faith is defined as "an act of the will informed by the intellect," and any kind of faith requires submission to something higher than yourself. Obama is neither that intellectual nor that humble. But all humans have passions, and his aren't hard to discern. He is anti-American, anti-Western, anti-Christian (the traditional variety), anti-white, and anti-life. He is more comfortable dining with Bill Ayers than with the Queen of England, more internationalist than nationalist, and perhaps more at home in Dar al-Islam than Dar al-Harb. He has lived abroad and traveled much, but he is a lover of nations like a Casanova is a lover of women: He has known many but loves, and is faithful to, none -- not even the one to which he should be married. He is a cultural traitor, and as Cicero said two thousand years ago, "A murderer is less to be feared."

To quote Chesterton again, "There was a time when men weren't very sure of themselves, but they were very sure of what the truth was. Now men are very sure of themselves but not at all sure of what the truth is." The latter describes Obama. If he does have faith, it is in himself. And that is a faith terribly misplaced.

[Scythian]

If you want to know what a man thinks listen to what he says, but if you want to know what he believes watch and see what he does ...

[1951Boomer]

“Whether he’s a deep thinking muslim (to quote the article a thinker who has thought thoroughly and to a definite end) or the type of muslim who plays fast and loose with the rules (people forget that Mohammed Atta drank and hung out at strip clubs prior to 9/11) is irrelevant.”

For many (men in particular), Islam is whatever they WANT it to be. (I know because I lived in a Muslim country for two years. Don’t be deceived. The men are NOT prim and proper. They try to get by with whatever they can.) That’s what makes Islamic “beliefs” hard to pin down at times, and that’s why the big B.O. can get away with anything because the end justifies the means in that religion. Oh, they’ll adhere to all the oppressive rules regarding WOMEN, though.

[Celerity]

But I’m pretty sure he couldn’t get more than 1 sentence through the Preamble of the Constitution.

No one in Congress, I’m willing to bet, can recite the whole preamble.

[x_plus_one]

Why he hides his baptismal evidence is insane. He is not a follower of christ and was never baptised. You aren’t a christian just because you say so...But the media declares otherwise..

[fightinJAG]

More needs to be looked into on the fact that Jeremiah Wright was once Muslim, too.

O/T, but I am seeing more and more lifting of full articles for posting on FR. It may be “legal,” but it doesn’t help support these pubs that add so much good content to the web. Sites such as American Thinker need hits to survive and thrive; even their google ranking — how much exposure they get to searchres — is determined by their traffic. Also the author deserves the hits she would have gotten had freepers gone to the site to read the full article.

[Missouri gal]

The Shahada is a declaration of Muslim belief. It means more to a Muslim to recite it than to recite the Apostle's Creed. Reciting it literally makes a person a Muslim. It's like baptizing yourself.

[expatguy]

If he walks like a Muslim and talks like a Muslim then he could be a Christian pretending to be a Muslim.

Ya just never know now do you?

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[ExTexasRedhead]

Imam Obama’s obvious hatred for Israel is enough for me to see what he is.

[DManA]

Obama didn’t get Baptized until 2004. Conveniently at the start of his run to the Presidency.

http://www.barackobama.com/factcheck/2007/11/12/obama_has_never_been_a_muslim_1.php

[Missouri gal]

Obama seems cannot refer to “the HO-lee QuRAHN” often enough. I think he said this phrase about 8 times at his infamous iftar dinner. Have we ever heard him say “the Holy Bible” even once? NO. And we never will. He told the Egyptian ambassador he is a Muslim. He told us a couple of times, even though he “corrected” himself with Stephanopolos, and the shahada was said in Arabic, and most people would not understand he was declaring himself a Muslim by saying it. He refuses to hold his hand on his heart at the “Star Spangled Banner” because it is against his religion to do so. He removed the American flag from the White House press briefing room because it is offensive to Muslims, and redecorated in Saudi white and gold. He has muslim radical friends. He BOWED to the Saudi prince, a sign of his wahabbi convictions. He ludicrously told NASA their primary mission is to raise Muslim self-esteem. He sent OUR money to Kenya to impose sharia there. At every turn every single time, he takes the Muslim side in everything. Asked directly what he thinks of Jesus Christ, his answer was dissembling, rambling, Jesus was pretty good, sort of, NOT Jesus is the Son of God.

[MinuteGal]

I don't for one minute believe Obama was ever baptized, even in that farce of a "Christian" church run by the America-hater, Wright.

Leni

[DManA]

He said doesn’t know where his baptism records are. Shows how important they are to him. I could find mine in 2 minutes. Has anyone thought to ask his church for them. Yea right.

[Texas resident]

The “christian” church of rev wrong is a big fan of farakhan. farakhan is the leader of the nation of islam.
ohaha attended that “church” for 20 years. I have listened to both wrong and louis not just for the words, but for the message behind the words. These people are so radical and loony toons it is beyond explanation.

And their student is occupying our White House.

[MinuteGal]

If it's the Rev. Wrong's "church", the baptismal certificate will be forged. Easiest thing in the world to do.

Probably ghost "sponsors" and/or witnesses for the non-existent baptism, also.

"Oh, what a tangled web we weave when first we practice to deceive."

Leni

[DManA]

If they followed the established pattern his church would claim that information is private and we will not divulge it to any third party. Please ask the president for his document.

Ask the president and 10 years later you would still be waiting for an answer.

[DManA]

However, even his claiming to have been baptized is a crime to our Muslim friends. A crime punishable by death.

[Eye of Unk]

Obama is a non patriot, has no allegiance to the Flag, the nation, or the brave soldiers defending our freedom.

Obama is taking away our freedom and is slowly preparing America to be a bastard mutated socialistic Marxist devil spawned Islamic supercountry.

Belive me I am glad I have spellcheck..

We must fight anything Islamic, every intrusion must be fought off, and most importantly any Islamic influence upon our children, they want our children, they want the adults dead for they know they would die defending the children.

I see no reason to wait for a nation wide get together, its here now and everyone else is asleep, it like a drawn out version of Pearl Harbor and Islam is flying right at us.

[VOA]

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[Pan_Yans Wife]

I have never known a non-Christian to mindlessly recite the Lord’s prayer and call it the most beautiful thing they had ever heard in the world, and then claim that they had no Christian faith.