Posted on 07/31/2010 6:25:47 PM PDT by jdirt
They don't have her records before 1965 !!
http://puzo1.blogspot.com/
Yes, but it's a RENEWAL application.
Look, around here I'm regarded as an anti-birther. A lot of birther "statements of fact" are either false, or wild speculation.
But if a pregnant Stanley Ann Dunham filed an original passport application (which required information about her planned trip) in 1960, that is a potential real true fact which would support birtherism.
The Dems were willing to dig down deep for very obscure views of the law regarding American citizens born abroad to Americans then in military service.
The far more moderate "Faux Birtherism" currently drawing criticism from the more refined classes is kind of based on FACTS and FACTOIDS, virtually none of which need be made-up to raise valid questions.
Unless you're willing to just pull stuff out of the air, you can't really get into Democrat mode "True Birtherism".
bookmark for later reference
The whole thing has to be looked at both ways, front to back, back to front, top to bottom, bottom to top, oldest to newest, newest to oldest.
Plenty of mysteries will arise ~ because, quite frankly, the CIA didn't put their best agents to work to deal with insertions into Indonesia ~ most of them were probably left-over Dutch Colonial administrative types with some deficiencies in their understanding of American records standards.
Who knows. But it all smells 24/7. Maybe we should be looking in libraries. I think they purge the internet every single day. There are so many people close to Obama’s inner circle who work at Google.
It’s incredible how many links disappear, go nowhere or are uncached.
The following was one of the results on google which went nowhere:
Kompas : November 6th 2008, Page 15 - [ Translate this page ]
6 Nov 2008... Ann Dunham, kulit putih asal Kansas City, itu sesuai prakiraan. .... Marcus Suprihadi, AW Subarkah, Ibrahimsyah Rahman, Soelastri, ...
kompas.realviewusa.com/default.aspx?iid=23067&startpage...
Was your passport issued for the purpose of foreign travel?
I got my first passport in 1971, and the application required a detailed itinerary. I asked what would happen if I left it blank, and they said the passport wouldn't be issued.
Yeah, but NOBODY contends that the Dunham coven and whatever offspring they produced were "real, true-blue Americans". It is absurd to contend that the person currently using the name "Barack Hussein Obama" is a "true-blue American", when he obviously is not.
The question at hand is not how true or how blue he is, but whether he's qualified under Article II to be President.
And of course, the real issue is not who HE is...the real issue is, what has this nation become that he could have even been considered for a second, much less elected in a landslide.
If "Obama" were removed from office tomorrow, the crisis in the body politic that created him would not be changed one iota - and that's the real problem.
Could the new name,Soebarkah/Subarkah, be Soetoro/Sutoro mothers maiden name?....Many societies use both parents family/tribal names in official records.
Do you know how many records were lost when the National Archives moved from DC to College Park, Maryland?
My whole family traveled, and lived overseas for two years. Each child had their own passport. That way we could go with one parent or the other to various places, I guess.
From your link in post #69:
2009-04-01 15:28:53 : Obama - Indonesian Muslim Roots - Lolo Soetoro had been an official of the Director General s office in the TNI Topograohy division of the Indonesian Army. He later becomes an executive with American Mobil Corporation, where he is a key liaison between the oil company and the Suharto regime. Suharto had been installed as the American friendly Indonesian President in 1967 .
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INDONESIA - Central Sumatra - Oil & Gas Fields.
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Was Mobil Oil sponsoring Indonesian students studying in the US? If Barry Soetoro was an Indonesian scholarship student who was his sponsor?
Example:
(no link)
6 foreign students at OCU
The Daily Oklahoman - Thursday, November 5, 1981
Six international students , including three Fulbright scholars, are studying at Oklahoma City University this fall through the Institute of International Education.
(snip)
The others are Hsuing Lin Lee, a Taiwanese scholarship student sponsored by the Chung Shan Institute of Science and Technology; Jung-Rea Brian Chin, a master of business administration candidate also sponsored by the Chung Shan institute, and MB Sitanggang, a business major sponsored by Caltex Pacific Indonesia .
Since its founding in 1919, the OCU institute has helped developing nations acquire specialized manpower training in education exchange programs.
Then yes. Now no.
Just ask Nixon about cover ups.
Verification of the marriage date is easy. Check the public index of marriage records held by the State of Hawaii for 1964-1965. No court action is required.
http://hawaii.gov/health/vital-records/vital-records/vital_records.html
Dear Birthers and others on this thread who wonder if old Barack was Born in America and legally eligible for election.
First, lets end with the “WHY WOULD THEY COVER UP ALL THIS STUFF, UNLESS”.
Unless what? He is a Muslim? We know that.
Unless what? He really isn’t eligible? Do you think THAT kind of conspiracy is possible? That Hillary passed on it? That NO ONE outside of one crack pot mail house degree attorney would accept? Really? I suppose all of you think GW Bush blew up the Twin Towers too?
No?
WHY NOT !!!???
If you are going to chase magic rabbits, why not chase them all?
There IS another reason why BHO would not want his records public and why Hillary and other RINO Republicans would FEAR making an issue out of them...
What is his Birth Certificate is Real... not the one we’ve seen, but the one others claim to have seen... what if it IS real... but...
But lists his Race as Caucasian?
Stop and THINK about that.
What would happen?
RIOTS?
The ultimate Race card backfire?
Liberals do NOT want to touch that one. They FEAR it.
THAT could very well be the stone left unturned and for those very reasons.
BHO is a liar. We know this. He’s been Barry the white guy, Barack the Muslim, and all points in between including perhaps multiple SSNs.
So, I am pretty sure he has 2 or 3 passports, with ALL three races/religions on them. I am sure he is guilty of many crimes.
And I am pretty sure that some people HAVE seen his real BC and figured out that it is legit, but has that little race problem and they RAN from it, leaving it to the kooks and spooks on the internet.
THAT is my position. Consider it.
Think it over before you reply.
PAX
BTW if you do have an interest, you can find more here:
http://www.google.com/search?q=foia+%22stanley+ann%22&hl=en&lr=&tbs=blg:1,qdr:d,sbd:1&filter=0
I wish he would have put the location these actions were taken. The 1965 application would have had Barry on it. And when he returned, he would have had to get a US passport in Indonesia, theoretically. Also it looks to me she was using her married name in 1965. It looks like the only change was that she dropped the Dunham name. 1.March 15, 1965. Stanley Ann Dunham marries Lolo Soetoro (P1) 2.July 19, 1965. Stanley Ann Dunham Soetoro is issued passport number F777788. The actual application was presumed destroyed in the 1980s, but it and its date are referenced at least 3 times in subsequent documents. (P1, P3, Waiver) 3.June 29, 1967. Stanley Ann Dunham Soetoro applied to amend her passport to use her married name, Stanley Ann Soetoro. (P3) 4.July 19, 1968. Passport expires. (Passports issued in 1965 were good for 3 years.) 5.August 13, 1968. Stanley Ann Soetoro applies to have her passport extended (renewed) for two years, through July 18, 1970. Passports issued in 1965 could be renewed only for two years. 6.July 19, 1970. Passport Expires. 7.October 21, 1971. Stanley Ann Soetoro attempts to enter the US with an invalid (expired) passport. She requests a waiver, which is granted. (Waiver) 8.January 4, 1972. Stanley Ann Dunham Soetoro applies for a passport to return to Indonesia. This passport, due to a change in the law, will be valid for 5 years. (P2) If you have corrections to this, please add them in.
ROLF, just makes one shake one’s head and wonder what she was smoking at the time or was she just this dumb. My money is one neither.
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