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North Vietnamese General Giap Admits Near-Defeat (Repost--and, REMEMBER)
American Ranger ^ | 9 April 2008 | SFC Chuch Grist

Posted on 07/31/2010 8:36:02 AM PDT by combat_boots

"What we still don't understand is why you Americans stopped the bombing of Hanoi. You had us on the ropes. If you had pressed us a little harder, just for another day or two, we were ready to surrender! It was the same at the battles of TET. You defeated us! We knew it, and we thought you knew it.

But we were elated to notice your media was definitely helping us. They were causing more disruption in America than we could in the battlefields. We were ready to surrender. You had won!"

(Excerpt) Read more at americanranger.blogspot.com ...


TOPICS: Government; Military/Veterans; Miscellaneous; Politics
KEYWORDS: cwii; patriots; us; vietnam
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Remember this NOW. Replace Nam with 0bama, Hope 'n Change, Progressivism, Soros, Congress, Democrats........
1 posted on 07/31/2010 8:36:06 AM PDT by combat_boots
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To: combat_boots

Walter Cronkite - The one man responsible for convincing Americans the war was lost. I wonder if North Viet Nam gave him a medal for all his efforts on their behalf?


2 posted on 07/31/2010 8:39:10 AM PDT by CIB-173RDABN
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To: combat_boots

Read the comments... whether Giap said this or not, the gist of it is true and we can thank ‘the most trusted man in America’ for lying to us, among many others.


3 posted on 07/31/2010 8:40:18 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: skeeter

I did ask the Admin Mod to change out the title to North. Have been busy overnight researching a couple of other things for the forum.

We need to remember the tactic though.


4 posted on 07/31/2010 8:41:55 AM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spirito Sancto.)
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To: combat_boots

That is a tremendous admission of their General! I remember from the interview with him by an American General and was very impressed with his humbleness.

I lost a very good friend of mine in Vietnam, a Helicopter pilot, for no reason at all! I blamed LBJ and the Congress for the stupid war! We have over 58,000 reminders of the “incident”!


5 posted on 07/31/2010 8:42:54 AM PDT by Sen Jack S. Fogbound (Pseudo-President has arisen!)
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To: combat_boots

with all do respect to the vets of the current war....and vietnam....we havent had a ‘war’ since people like Curtis Lemay/Patton and the rest ran things and completely destroyed the cities of Berlin, Dresden, Hamburg, Tokyo, Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

forget the smart bomb technology....we need to carpet bomb our enemys till they beg for peace...we should have layed waste to Afghanistan, Iraq, and lets not forget where the 911 bombers came from.....Egypt and Saudi....

we havent had a real president since Reagan....


6 posted on 07/31/2010 8:45:48 AM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: Sen Jack S. Fogbound

The MSM blames the war on Nixon.
LBJ is quietly forgotten.


7 posted on 07/31/2010 8:46:51 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (Impeachment !)
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To: combat_boots

Yep, they’ve been following the template to the T.


8 posted on 07/31/2010 8:48:09 AM PDT by Eagles6 ( Typical White Guy: Christian, Constitutionalist, Heterosexual, Redneck.)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
The MSM blames the war on Nixon.

LBJ is quietly forgotten.

As is JFK.

9 posted on 07/31/2010 8:51:00 AM PDT by reg45
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To: combat_boots

The people returning from WWII were the most destructive leaders this nation has ever known.


10 posted on 07/31/2010 9:09:39 AM PDT by ansel12 (Mitt: "I was an independent during the time of Reagan-Bush. I'm not trying to return to Reagan-Bush")
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To: combat_boots

No, Giap. You won because I wasn’t in charge.


11 posted on 07/31/2010 9:14:05 AM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: combat_boots

This is what he actually said: In his own words

The most relevant statement I could find that is actually attributable to General Giap was uttered in a 1989 interview with Morley Safer, as excerpted in The Vietnam War: An Encyclopedia of Quotations by Howard Langer (Greenwood Press, 2005, p. 318):
We paid a high price [during the Tet offensive] but so did you [Americans]... not only in lives and materiel.... Do not forget the war was brought into the living rooms of the American people. ... The most important result of the Tet offensive was it made you de-escalate the bombing, and it brought you to the negotiation table. It was, therefore, a victory....

The war was fought on many fronts. At that time the most important one was American public opinion.


12 posted on 07/31/2010 9:29:08 AM PDT by navysealdad (http://drdavehouseoffun.com/)
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To: combat_boots

It was a Rat war JFK LBJ and that Turd Truman gets the grand prize he let the French back into Indochina over protests and Letters,one from Ho Chi Mein ,Rats the lot of them.


13 posted on 07/31/2010 9:40:48 AM PDT by Cheetahcat (Zero the Wright kind of Racist! We are in a state of War with Democrats)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
The North's victory was tantamount to Iraq losing the first gulf war, then attacking Kuwait again after we'd left.

Of course the deomcrats in congress helped a great deal by refusing to enforce the terms of the cease fire agreement.

14 posted on 07/31/2010 9:43:54 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: navysealdad

I’ve been looking for any statement by Giap on the north losing the war for years. I was able to get a copy of Giap’s book which had no such statement. There’s a journalist Arnaud D’Borchauve (sp) that may have some first hand info. I’d love to get his personal email address.

I’m not sure if that is myth or not. After the Tet Offensive the outlook in the north must have pretty glum seeing as how the VC was gone as an effective force.


15 posted on 07/31/2010 10:13:02 AM PDT by meatloaf
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To: combat_boots

Ping.


16 posted on 07/31/2010 10:15:33 PM PDT by Carbonsteel
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To: combat_boots; skeeter
I don't have a direct source for the quotes attributed to Gen. Giap, but Col. Bui Tin, who was on Gen. Giap's staff and accepted the surrender of South VN, had an interview published in the Wall Street Journal, August 3, 1995. I used to have a copy of it.

How North Vietnam Won The War .

17 posted on 08/02/2010 9:40:04 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: CIB-173RDABN
Walter Cronkite

Was a liar, a traitor and a communist. IMO, he has the blood of dead American Soldiers dripping from his hands ...

18 posted on 08/02/2010 9:42:38 AM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: skeeter

skeeter said: “Read the comments... whether Giap said this or not, the gist of it is true and we can thank ‘the most trusted man in America’ for lying to us, among many others.”

But if something is fabricated (like this quote) it is false. The fact that “the gist of it is true’ only explains why someone fabricated it.

And it’s a sign of weakness. If the “gist of it” were manifestly true, no one would need to invent quotes to prove it.


19 posted on 01/24/2011 6:40:04 AM PST by edwinland
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To: combat_boots

I know the story, but a better source than “A friend from the great state of Kentucky sent me the following” might be a good thing.

Can anyone help?


20 posted on 01/24/2011 6:44:36 AM PST by listenhillary (20 years in Reverend Wright's church is all I need to determine the "content of his character")
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