An, "I never said I was a highly paid neurosurgeon," ping.
Posted on 07/27/2010 6:17:50 PM PDT by Bad~Rodeo
In wake of Jerusalem conviction, U.S. legal experts weigh-in
NEW YORK — If you get a girl to sleep with you by claiming you run a billion dollar hedge fund and drive a Maserati, when you're really more of a used Ford Escort kind of guy, can you be prosecuted for rape?
Last week, an Arab Israeli man was sentenced to prison for telling a woman in Jerusalem he was a Jewish bachelor in order to get her to sleep with him. He was convicted on a charge of “rape by deception.”
Could a similar prosecution take place here in the Unites States? And if so, just what would constitute rape by deception?
Legal experts say those who lie in the course of courtship are unlikely to face jail time — most U.S. states don't have rape by fraud laws, and even in those that do, prosecutions are extremely rare.
But in recent years, there have been attempts to broaden rape laws in order to deal with this complicated and controversial issue.
In 2008, Mass. State House Rep. Peter Koutoujian helped craft rape by fraud legislation after the state's Supreme Judicial Court said it could not rule on two rape cases because of the state’s rigid definition of rape as involving both force and non-consent.
In one case, a man from Westfield, Mass., was accused of rape after he allegedly impersonated his brother in order to have sex with his brother’s girlfriend in the middle of the night. The sex was consensual, but the court ruled that “intercourse where consent is achieved by fraud does not constitute rape.”
In the other, a pharmacist named Nicholas Creanza allegedly posed as a gynecologist in order to give exams to two consenting women in Springfield, Mass. The court ruled that
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Gold diggers, still alive and doing well I see...
When girls understood that the best thing to do was to wait until your wedding night, this wasn’t as much of an issue.
My father’s family is wealthy, but they suffocate me. My mother’s family is poor but I enjoy them. Should I still hang out with my father’s family? It’s just almost unbearable.
By the way, would you like to get another drink? Ah, great! Come with me now. Fantastic, let me get the key in here.
Scotch?
Sure, I’m Jewish. Oh vey, couldn’t you tell? Yah, oy vey. I meant that. I was kidding.
So tell me about you.
as a single 30 something guy,, I'm glad most don't listen to your advise :-) I can sleep with 5 women in as many months......life is good...../s
I’m a rocket scientist. Yah, I’ve been to the space.
Maybe the woman should be convicted of raping herself. Women tend to lie to themselves when they are getting into bed with a man they barely know; it’s not exactly a nitpicking examination of the man and his veracity at 1 am.
“What are you in for?”
“Rape.”
“Rape? You’re a woman. How . . .”
“I lied to myself. I knew he wasn’t everything he said he was, but I thought some of it might be true. And he was good looking. And I was lonely. They gave me 13 years.”
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Can I sue my wife for fraud? She wore this killer outfit when we first met that made her chest look bigger than it was and her waist smaller.
Boy, thinking back to my younger single days and all the lies I told. Not to mention all the lies that were told to me.
Boy, thinking back to my younger single days and all the lies I told. Not to mention all the lies that were told to me.
Boy, thinking back to my younger single days and all the lies I told. Not to mention all the lies that were told to me.
They couldn't find a rape statute to charge him with. They best they could do (IIRC) was "unlawful impersonation", or something like that.
A very slippery slope. Something the man hating lefties love.
Suppose I marry a girl that pretends to have a strong sex drive (in order to snare me) and then cuts me off after the wedding? Is that any less fraud than misrepresenting my income or background to get into her pants?
That incident sounds vaguely familiar. The article says that
state laws on rape leave very little wiggle room, according to
SCOTUS
It was her boyfriend's twin.
They couldn't find a rape statute to charge him with. They best they could do (IIRC) was "unlawful impersonation", or something like that.
This was a subplot in the movie "The Prestige."
Of course, Hugh Jackman and Scarlett Johansson
In one case, a man from Westfield, Mass., was accused of rape after he allegedly impersonated his brother in order to have sex with his brother’s girlfriend in the middle of the night.
Maybe if she’s a hooker, L~
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