What Dems might switch parties after GOP electoral gains this November?

one man's opinion...

[ken5050]

As we get closer to the November election, there is endless continual speculation/polling as to the odds of the GOP taking control of one of both houses of Congress. We can make two logical assumptions. The GOP WILL make substantial gains, and the GOP caucus in both the House and the Senate will be more conservative. However, there has been next to no discussion of the possibility that one or more House Dems might cross the aisle after the November vote.

[Philo1962]

I would rather the Republicans have a large Senate minority- say 47 or 48- and Snow and Collins and McCain(if he is still there) switched to be Social Democrats. Republicans do their best work when in minority. As a majority they don’t feel they have any principles to prove and they set about the serious business of grabbing as much goodies as they can.

I disagree. When we get a majority, we can block the Elena Kagans and Sonia Sotomayors. And there are two more layers of lifetime judicial appointments below them. We can also block socialist legislation and the ratification of abysmally stupid treaties, like the Kyoto Protocol, that would cost millions of jobs and surrender our sovereignty one piece at a time. Even if a GOP majority does nothing for us, it's better than a Dem majority, which wouldn't hesitate to do whatever it can against us (as we've already seen).

As for repealing Obamacare, it won’t happen, even with vetoproof majorities in both houses. The Republicans will never vote to cause government employees to lose their jobs and the Kenyan has been hiring hordes of new bureaucrats to staff the IRS’s new mandates and the Obamacare bureaucracy.

Most people don't even know this, but buried in those 2000+ pages is authorization for 70 new government agencies and they'll all have their own enormous budgets. However, I think Republicans will respond to the will of the people, and repeal it. (I could be unpleasantly surprised ...)

[Non-Sequitur]

Both caucuses are becoming more ideologically driven...the RINOs and the "blue dogs" are a declining breed. Within that context, it's interesting to speculate which Dems on Capitol Hill might be inclined to change sides.

As both parties have moved further apart it's doubtful that any Democrat is conservative enough to be welcomed into the GOP. The most conservative Democrat would, at best, be labeled a RINO if they did.

[Logic n' Reason]

There is absolutely no polling data to support your assertion.
The GOP continues to lead the generic ballot. (The "lead" is certainly not enough to indicate anything for the upcoming mid-term elections. Show a steadily increasing number from +20, and you might have something.)
The number of endangered Democrats continues to grow.This is either an unwarranted assumption, or wishful thinking....even your favorite nemisis harry reid is safe
The number of people who favor repeal of Obamacare continues to expand. There is no real proof of this - other than talk TV and radio - and that is certainly not proof
Obama's approval rating continues to go down the toilet. A steady, if unspectacular 45% Strongly Approve rating is not "down the toilet" by a long shot, nor is a 55% Strongly Disapprove. Show me a steady 68% Strongly Disapprove and a 35% or lower Strongly Approve and you'll have an arguement.
With all due respect, there isn't much "logic" -- or "reason" -- to your contention. Noted. And rather than prove your arguements to be nothing but wishful thinking and talk show pap....we'll both have to wait for the upcoming mid-term to find out who used the most "Logic 'n Reason, won't we??
Whether or not the GOP will regain control of either House or Senate remains an unknown. My point exactly. Polls at this date are useless. Know your own mind; talk with others to see if you can convince them. And vote in November. All the rest is rubbish.

[okie01]

(The "lead" is certainly not enough to indicate anything for the upcoming mid-term elections. Show a steadily increasing number from +20, and you might have something.)

Historically, a dead heat in the generic ballot has meant a +2-3 pt advantage for Republicans.

even your favorite nemisis harry reid is safe

Really? Yet he is buried in the low 40's. Historically dangerously territory for an incumbent.

There is no real proof of this (healthcare repeal)

Rasmussen and Gallup.

A steady, if unspectacular 45% Strongly Approve rating is not "down the toilet" by a long shot, nor is a 55% Strongly Disapprove. Show me a steady 68% Strongly Disapprove and a 35% or lower Strongly Approve and you'll have an arguement.

There have never, ever been such numbers for any President. Even Jimmy Carter. Or Millard Fillmore. If you didn't already know that, you have no credibility.

If you wish to cry in your beer, sit on your ass and bitch and moan, it is certainly your right to do so.

But don't come in here with weak crap like that and expect to be taken seriously.

[Logic n' Reason]

Historically, a dead heat in the generic ballot has meant a +2-3 pt advantage for Republicans.

Pardon....but wasn't it (if I read posts from this site from last Jan/Feb) going to be a "landslide" for the rinos this Nov?
Yet now, it is reduced to a weak "historical precedent" of a +2-3%. Your "landslide" is most assuredly slipping badly.

Really? Yet he is buried in the low 40's. Historically dangerously territory for an incumbent.

Again with the "historically"! And "low 40s,dangerous territory" applies only if there is viable competition. Unfortunately, there IS no viable competition for reid. You know it...and worse, so does he.

Rasmussen and Gallup.

Quoting pollsters to prove a point is worthless. You might want to try reading "Who Will Tell The People" (Grieder) regarding lobbyists and pollsters. It just could do you good.

There have never, ever been such numbers for any President. Even Jimmy Carter. Or Millard Fillmore. If you didn't already know that, you have no credibility.

Since you put so much store in your pollsters, try looking up GWs "Strong Approval" rating in January of '09. Again, you just might be enlightened. And...please don't be upset, it is always the "last bastion" of believers and emotionally based arguers to rely on personal insult as opposed to reason. Too bad.

If you wish to cry in your beer, sit on your ass and bitch and moan, it is certainly your right to do so.

Again with the personal insults! Exactly what facts do you use to make these insults? And...how do you know I am - as you so crassly put it - sitting on my ass? Oh...and by the way...I don't drink beer.

But don't come in here with weak crap like that and expect to be taken seriously.

Reason is not your strong suite...but it would appear that emotional outbursts are. So be it.

Here's a suggestion...and only a suggestion....let's both wait to see what occurs in November. Then we'll "meet" back here and see who "carried" the day? Agreed?

Lastly....I am a staunch conservative in both my political views and in the manner in which I cast a ballot. Just so you know.

[okie01]

Historically, a dead heat in the generic ballot has meant a +2-3 pt advantage for Republicans.

Pardon....but wasn't it (if I read posts from this site from last Jan/Feb) going to be a "landslide" for the rinos this Nov?

Yet now, it is reduced to a weak "historical precedent" of a +2-3%. Your "landslide" is most assuredly slipping badly.

Clearly, you have comprehension problems. The last generic ballot was 46/36 in favor of the GOP. And, historically, a draw has meant a +2-3% advantage for Republicans.

Are you obtuse? Merely ignorant? Or a liberal agent provacateur?

And...how do you know I am - as you so crassly put it - sitting on my ass?

Should I have said "sitting on your brain", instead?

Lastly....I am a staunch conservative in both my political views and in the manner in which I cast a ballot.

In which case, the Constitution Party, or whichever flea on the public dog, welcomes your vote. To no measurable effect.

[Logic n' Reason]

Are you obtuse? Merely ignorant? Or a liberal agent provacateur?
And...how do you know I am - as you so crassly put it - "sitting on my ass"?
Should I have said "sitting on your brain", instead? In which case, the Constitution Party, or whichever flea on the public dog, welcomes your vote. To no measurable effect.

Ahhh....the personal attack! The last vestige of those with no facts, no common sense, little class, filled with little but emotion, and - sadly - wrong.

But as I said before, we'll let November prove that, won't we?

[okie01]

“Obtuse” is the word.

[Logic n' Reason]

Tho not a word, a well turned phrase will do instead...

"Fact challenged" or "wishful thinker", or even "emotional surfeit".....

Do what you can with what little you have, and we'll meet back here Nov. 5th.

BTW: care to make any predictions about the Nov. elections - of course, using your "arguements" as presented?