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Genetic Study Solves Which Came First -- The Chicken or the Egg
Daily Tech ^ | July 15, 2010 | Tiffany Kaiser

Posted on 07/15/2010 6:40:02 AM PDT by decimon

One of the most puzzling and famous life questions has stumped people for generations. It's the question of which came first: the chicken or the egg? In order for there to be an egg, a chicken would have had to lay it. In order for there to be a chicken, it would have had to hatch from an egg. It seems as though either answer could be the correct answer; until now.

Dr. Colin Freeman from Sheffield University along with colleagues from Warwick University have figured it all out. Their research project originally aimed to figure out how animals make eggshells because it's an extraordinarily strong yet lightweight material that no human has been able to replicate, and the researchers hoped to learn how to develop a manmade equivalent by learning about the way animals make eggshells.

Chickens were chosen as their test subjects simply because the protein was easy to study. The study began when Freeman and his colleagues used the UK Science Research Council's super-computer called HECToR (High End Computing Terascale Resource), which is based in Edinburgh. The "ingredients" used to make eggshells were programmed into HECToR, and that was it. The computer was left to produce results on its own, and it took weeks for HECToR to figure out how chickens make eggshells.

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TOPICS: Food; Science
KEYWORDS: chickenoregg; whichcamefirst

1 posted on 07/15/2010 6:40:03 AM PDT by decimon
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To: decimon

It’s a really really stupid question. The egg obviously came first.


2 posted on 07/15/2010 6:43:54 AM PDT by Durus (The People have abdicated our duties and anxiously hopes for just two things, "Bread and Circuses")
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To: decimon

I always thought that this was a dumb question! The chicken had to come first for a couple of reasons.

# 1- God created animals, even before man, WHOLE animals.
# 2- An egg would not hatch just lying around, it would need warmth and care from a hen or other creature.

So, the chicken HAD to come first!


3 posted on 07/15/2010 6:45:39 AM PDT by NellieMae (Here......common sense,common sense,common sense,where'd ya go... common sense......)
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To: Durus

God created the chicken.


4 posted on 07/15/2010 6:47:20 AM PDT by BARLF
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To: decimon
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5 posted on 07/15/2010 6:52:20 AM PDT by saganite (What happens to taglines? Is there a termination date?)
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To: Durus
It is clearly a question for professor Erwin Corey.


6 posted on 07/15/2010 6:52:23 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed, and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Durus

But who laid that egg?


7 posted on 07/15/2010 6:56:47 AM PDT by Mr. K (Physically unable to proofread- I swear I try!)
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To: decimon

As a software engineer it always makes me laugh when I hear people quote “The computer model says that [...]”

The computer is giving the exact output it was programmed to give.

If you let me at the code for a little while I can make it give the exact opposite answer.


8 posted on 07/15/2010 7:00:02 AM PDT by Mr. K (Physically unable to proofread- I swear I try!)
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To: Mr. K

I find it humorous when scientists base their conclusions solely on models, too. They may understand the answer the model gave, but most of the time do not understand either the question that was asked or the fact it was the wrong question!


9 posted on 07/15/2010 7:38:00 AM PDT by MortMan (Obama's response to the Gulf oil spill: a four-putt.)
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To: decimon
Well, I'm glad that is settled.

But what if eggs were brought to earth by space aliens?

10 posted on 07/15/2010 7:49:35 AM PDT by smokingfrog (freerepublic.com - Now 100% flag free.)
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To: saganite

11 posted on 07/15/2010 7:56:26 AM PDT by Tatze (I reject your reality and substitute my own!)
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To: decimon

“I think the egg came first. A chicken is not defined by the type of egg it lays. (A horse is a horse even if it gives birth to a mule.) But an egg is defined by the kind of creature it contains. (An egg that contains a robin is a ‘robin’ egg, no matter what laid it.) Therefore, if you believe in evolution, at some point a creature which was almost a chicken laid an egg that contained a chicken, and as an egg is defined by the kind of creature it contains, the egg came first.”

— Marilyn vos Savant in her book, Ask Marilyn

Of course, if you don’t think evolution is true, the question is essentially meaningless.


12 posted on 07/15/2010 8:29:52 AM PDT by Erasmus (Personal goal: Have a bigger carbon footprint than Tony Robbins.)
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To: Erasmus

Evolution aside, I think Marilyn laid an egg with that babble.


13 posted on 07/15/2010 9:12:05 AM PDT by decimon
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To: Mr. K

Dinosaurs.


14 posted on 07/15/2010 11:42:35 AM PDT by Durus (The People have abdicated our duties and anxiously hopes for just two things, "Bread and Circuses")
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To: BARLF

Man created the chicken. It’s a a domestication of both red and grey jungle fowl.


15 posted on 07/15/2010 11:44:15 AM PDT by Durus (The People have abdicated our duties and anxiously hopes for just two things, "Bread and Circuses")
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To: decimon

Close on the heels of the reasearch study that produced these amazing findings will be another government funded research study to determine why the chicken crossed the road.


16 posted on 07/15/2010 11:49:44 AM PDT by GreenHornet
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