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I'll go Green when These CO2 Generators are banned!
VI / XII / MMX | pansgold

Posted on 06/12/2010 12:21:17 PM PDT by pansgold

Nancy Pelosi and husband Paul own vineyard in St. Helena but they make no mention of the tons of CO2 the fermentation their wine produces. How green is that? About as green as Al Gore’s mansion, Caney Creek Zinc Mine runoff and his huge jetliner.

Let’s jack up the prices for just these few products to start off Cap and Tax.

Carbonated Water/Seltzer CO2 Fire Extinguishers Carbonated pop/sodas Beer Fermentation Whiskey Fermentation Wine Fermentation Alka-Seltzer Dry Ice Wire Feed Welders Bottle Gas Producers of CO2


TOPICS: Education; Politics; Science
KEYWORDS: iceagenow; junkscience; storytime

1 posted on 06/12/2010 12:21:17 PM PDT by pansgold
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To: pansgold

Next the enviros will ban beer. It will be their downfall.


2 posted on 06/12/2010 12:28:32 PM PDT by JimSEA
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To: JimSEA

Too much payola in it for the elected and selected. The breweries pay BIG $$$ to them.


3 posted on 06/12/2010 12:31:03 PM PDT by pansgold
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To: pansgold

Gore and family have beeen polluting the Caney Fork River ever since Armand Hammer used Gore SR for political favors. That damn mine has polluted plus ticked locals off in Carthage, TN, to most of all in Trout Unlimited in the state off.


4 posted on 06/12/2010 12:38:39 PM PDT by Lumper20
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To: pansgold

Don’t give them any ideas.


5 posted on 06/12/2010 12:44:25 PM PDT by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know. . .)
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To: pansgold
THE ACQUITTAL OF CARBON DIOXIDE
by Jeffrey A. Glassman, PhD

ABSTRACT:

"Carbon dioxide in the atmosphere [historically] is the product of oceanic respiration due to the well-known but under-appreciated solubility pump. Carbon dioxide rises out of warm ocean waters where it is added to the atmosphere. There it is mixed with residual and accidental CO2, and circulated, to be absorbed into the sink of the cold ocean waters. Next the thermohaline circulation carries the CO2-rich sea water deep into the ocean. A millennium later it appears at the surface in warm waters, saturated by lower pressure and higher temperature, to be exhausted back into the atmosphere. Throughout the past 420 millennia, comprising four interglacial periods, the Vostok record of atmospheric carbon dioxide concentration is imprinted with, and fully characterized by, the physics of the solubility of CO2 in water, along with the lag in the deep ocean circulation.

Notwithstanding that carbon dioxide is a greenhouse gas, atmospheric carbon dioxide has neither caused nor amplified global temperature increases. Increased carbon dioxide has been an effect of global warming, not a cause [historically -etl]. Technically, carbon dioxide is a lagging proxy for ocean temperatures. When global temperature, and along with it, ocean temperature rises, the physics of solubility causes atmospheric CO2 to increase.

If increases in carbon dioxide, or any other greenhouse gas, could have in turn raised global temperatures, the positive feedback would have been catastrophic. While the conditions for such a catastrophe were present in the Vostok record from natural causes, the runaway event did not occur. Carbon dioxide does not accumulate in the atmosphere."

http://www.rocketscientistsjournal.com/2006/10/co2_acquittal.html

6 posted on 06/12/2010 12:51:15 PM PDT by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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So, greenhouse [effect] is all about carbon dioxide, right?

Wrong. The most important players on the greenhouse stage are water vapor and clouds [clouds of course aren't gas, but high level ones do act to trap heat from escaping, while low-lying cumulus clouds tend to reflect sunlight and thereby help cool the planet -etl]. Carbon dioxide has been increased to about 0.038% of the atmosphere (possibly from about 0.028% pre-Industrial Revolution) while water in its various forms ranges from 0% to 4% of the atmosphere and its properties vary by what form it is in and even at what altitude it is found in the atmosphere.

In simple terms the bulk of Earth's greenhouse effect is due to water vapor by virtue of its abundance. Water accounts for about 90% of the Earth's greenhouse effect -- perhaps 70% is due to water vapor and about 20% due to clouds (mostly water droplets), some estimates put water as high as 95% of Earth's total tropospheric greenhouse effect (e.g., Freidenreich and Ramaswamy, 'Solar Radiation Absorption by Carbon Dioxide, Overlap with Water, and a Parameterization for General Circulation Models,' Journal of Geophysical Research 98 (1993):7255-7264).

The remaining portion comes from carbon dioxide, nitrous oxide, methane, ozone and miscellaneous other 'minor greenhouse gases.' As an example of the relative importance of water it should be noted that changes in the relative humidity on the order of 1.3-4% are equivalent to the effect of doubling CO2.

http://www.junkscience.com/Greenhouse/
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Water Vapor Rules the Greenhouse System

Water vapor constitutes Earth's most significant greenhouse gas, accounting for about 95% of Earth's greenhouse effect (4). Interestingly, many 'facts and figures' regarding global warming completely ignore the powerful effects of water vapor in the greenhouse system, carelessly (perhaps, deliberately) overstating human impacts as much as 20-fold.

Water vapor is 99.999% of natural origin. Other atmospheric greenhouse gases, carbon dioxide (CO2), methane (CH4), nitrous oxide (N2O), and miscellaneous other gases (CFC's, etc.), are also mostly of natural origin (except for the latter, which is mostly anthropogenic).

Human activities contribute slightly to greenhouse gas concentrations through farming, manufacturing, power generation, and transportation. However, these emissions are so dwarfed in comparison to emissions from natural sources we can do nothing about, that even the most costly efforts to limit human emissions would have a very small-- perhaps undetectable-- effect on global climate.

http://www.geocraft.com/WVFossils/greenhouse_data.html
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Water Vapor Confirmed As Major Player In Climate Change

ScienceDaily (Nov. 18, 2008) — Water vapor is known to be Earth's most abundant greenhouse gas, but the extent of its contribution to global warming has been debated. Using recent NASA satellite data, researchers have estimated more precisely than ever the heat-trapping effect of water in the air, validating the role of the gas as a critical component of climate change.

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/11/081117193013.htm

7 posted on 06/12/2010 12:51:49 PM PDT by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: pansgold

Leave the whiskey fermentation alone. There was a war once called the whiskey Rebellion. I’m just saying . .


8 posted on 06/12/2010 12:55:05 PM PDT by BipolarBob (Even the earth is bipolar.)
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To: ETL

Careful, you’re gonna clue the lunatics to the thought of banning water.....


9 posted on 06/12/2010 1:02:30 PM PDT by wendy1946
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To: pansgold

Whoah!! Hey lay off the beer.


10 posted on 06/12/2010 1:14:18 PM PDT by Bullish (Been to all 57 States.... Or is it 58?)
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To: Bullish

I have a batch of plum wine in the crock right now. I do my share to pollute with CO2 while it’s still legal. A couple hundred gallons a year for my own... yah HOO it’s mountain dew and it tickles my innards.

Next... THE MICRO BREWERY!


11 posted on 06/12/2010 1:43:23 PM PDT by pansgold
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To: Lumper20
Al Gore's Zinc Mine
12 posted on 06/12/2010 1:49:41 PM PDT by pansgold
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To: JimSEA
Next the enviros will ban beer. It will be their downfall.

I'm not sure if the Beer Rebellion will be a cool remake of the Whiskey Rebellion or just a weak imitation. Perhaps both.

13 posted on 06/12/2010 2:03:01 PM PDT by magslinger (Ask Dad. He'll know. And on the off chance he doesn't, he'll make up something good.)
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To: pansgold
Pelosi is the sole owner of Zinfandel Lane Vineyard in St. Helena and Skellenger Lane Vineyard in Napa. She also has shares in Ernest and Julio Gallo (which is one of the biggest operations in the valley). Although she's not the majority owner.
14 posted on 06/12/2010 2:24:31 PM PDT by davius (You can roll manure in powdered sugar but that don't make it a jelly doughnut.)
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To: davius

This whole arguement is based on the elitist assumption that if the Cabal/Regime/Elites say something (obviously a ruse to enable theft of wealth from the masses to those “Chosen Ones”) they think we (the masses) are too stupid to realize that it is all a lie.
Well, Al, BOZ, Pelosi, Reed, Soros, we are not dumb. Stupid maybe but we are NOT dumb.


15 posted on 06/12/2010 2:32:30 PM PDT by Shady (No more LAWS based on LIES!!!!)
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