Letter: Bizarre findings on the president (SSNgate)

The Kingman Daily Miner ^ | May 18, 2010 | Linda Athens

[2ndDivisionVet]

Recently, a number of Web sites have stories reporting on Barack Obama using numerous Social Security numbers. The one most frequently used by him over the years is from Connecticut, where he has never lived, that begins with 042 and supposedly belongs to a man born in 1890.

This is the latest in a long list of bizarre findings concerning our president, including his absolute refusal to produce his valid birth certificate and other documents presidents routinely make public.

Occidental College, which he attended, has him using a SS number beginning with 999 in spite of the Social Security Administration stating their beginning numbers don't go higher than 799. However, the college did assign temporary numbers to foreign nationals beginning with 999.

While giving Jackson, N.J., as an address, he once used a Social beginning with 485 and others began with 364 and 537. But while listing 713 Hart Senate Office Building as his address, he used a social beginning with 282; so say these stories.

If these stories turn out to be true, I would say Mr. Obama has some big time explaining to do. At the very least, there needs to be some serious investigating. It used to be called investigative journalism but now the press only prints what they want us to know.

And apparently the mainstream press isn't remotely interested in this one. I found it at thetreeofliberty.com and several other Web sites that I have trusted in the past.

[Menehune56]

I guess the Selective Service's daily limit for inquiries is ZERO because I'm getting the following error message:

Error. Sorry, your request cannot be processed at this time because you have exceeded the daily limit for the verification of these credentials.

[Myrddin]

Rush should hook him up with LifeLock®

Perhaps locked up for life would be more appropriate. That's what would happen to any of us if we did 1% of the dirty deeds he appears to have committed.

[little jeremiah]

“If (something) were going to happen, it would have happened already.”

Kook “argument”.

[little jeremiah]

It’s not that they “can’t uncover the truth.

[little jeremiah]

It’s not that they “can’t” uncover the truth.

Fixed it.

[BP2]

> “If (something) were going to happen, it would have happened already.”

Not necessarily.

A politician's long-established LIES may be uncovered at any time.

For example ... Blumenthal: I misspoke about Vietnam service

[SkyPilot]

I thought stealing SSNs was a crime. No?

[circumbendibus]

Orly Taitz brought up the SSN issue in her quo warranto filing. No mainstream media has picked up on this issue, unfortunately.

Never heard of the Kingman Daily Miner. ;)

[Brown Deer]

The limit is not zero. You are probably not the only person looking for zero.

[sheik yerbouty]

The Kenyan may also be known as the scam artiste, Felonious Punk..

[jamese777]

Can’t wait for the FR anti-birthers to explain this all to our satisfaction...

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Barack Hussein Obama SENIOR (the father) lived in Connecticut.

[rxsid]

HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN'S STATUS BE "GOVERNED" BY GREAT BRITAIN?

“When Barack Obama Jr. was born on Aug. 4,1961, in Honolulu, Kenya was a British colony, still part of the United Kingdom’s dwindling empire. As a Kenyan native, Barack Obama Sr. was a British subject whose citizenship status was governed by The British Nationality Act of 1948. That same act governed the status of Obama Sr.‘s children.

http://fightthesmears.com/articles/5/birthcertificate.html

Factcheck.org goes on to say this about Obama Sr., Jr. and the British Nationality Act of 1948:

In other words, at the time of his birth, Barack Obama Jr. was both a U.S. citizen (by virtue of being born in Hawaii) and a citizen of the United Kingdom and Colonies (or the UKC) by virtue of being born to a father who was a citizen of the UKC.

http://www.factcheck.org/askfactcheck/does_barack_obama_have_kenyan_citizenship.html

 

Even the modern day State Department rules discusses the problems associated with dual citizenship:

7 FAM 081: U.S. Policy on Dual Nationality:

(e)While recognizing the existence of dual nationality, the U.S. Government does not encourage it as a matter of policy because of the problems it may cause. Dual nationality may hamper efforts by the U.S. Government to provide diplomatic and consular protection to individuals overseas. When a U.S. citizen is in the other country of their dual nationality, that country has a predominant claim on the person.

...

the U.S. Supreme Court has stated that dual nationality is a "status long recognized in the law" and that "a person may have and exercise rights of nationality in two countries and be subject to the responsibilities of both." See Kawakita v. United States, 343 U.S. 717 (1952).

http://www.state.gov/documents/organization/86563.pdf

So, back to the question: "HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN'S STATUS BE "GOVERNED" BY GREAT BRITAIN?"
It can't. Of course not. Yet, right there, on his campaign web site F.T.S., it's stated that a foreign government "governed" Barry from birth and the reason it did, was that Barry inherited that foreign citizenship by way of his foreign national father (no matter where he was born), a fact backed up by Factcheck.org. Assuming, of course, that Sr. was his legal father at birth.
How, then, could he possibly be a "Natural Born Citizen" of the U.S.?
Barry Soetoro, the divided citizen at birth!

Barack Obama a/k/a Barry Soetoro *	NOT Obama / Soetoro
* This assumes HI birth. A citizen of 2 countries at birth.

http://www.jeffersonsrebels.blogspot.com

Furthermore:  Hawaii's Territorial Law, Chapter 57 - "VITAL STATISTICS, I", shown beginning pg 23 of 29, (the law in effect in 1961) allowed the parents (or grandparents or other relative) of baby's born anywhere in the world to be eligible to apply for a Hawaiian birth certificate. A mailed-in form (without mention of a hospital, doctor, or midwife) signed by one of his grandparents (who forged the parent signature(s)) would have been enough to set up a birth record and a birth certificate at the Dept of Health. The Dept of Health would (presumably) then have automatically sent the names of the parents, their address as given on the mailed-in form , the gender of the child, and the date of birth to the Honolulu Advertiser and Star-Bulletin. The address given for the parents in the newspaper announcements is actually, however, the August 1961 home address of Obama’s maternal grandparents Stanley and Madelyn Dunham [6085 Kalanianaole Highway], and not the 1961 home address of Barack Obama, Sr. [625 11th Ave].) This notification would then have automatically generated the newspaper announcements. (This was the practice of the Honolulu Advertiser and Star-Bulletin at the time).

Bottom line: Even IF (big IF) he was born in HI, he inherited his father's foreign citizenship as well, making him a US citizen by US law and a subject to the crown of her majesty the Queen of England by inheritance and England's law. He could not be considered a Natural Born Citizen as known by and as intended by the framers.
 

[Uncle Chip]

Barack Hussein Obama SENIOR (the father) lived in Connecticut.

Was SENIOR born in 1890 and then again on 8/04/1961????

Post #60

[Brown Deer]

Barack Hussein Obama SENIOR (the father) lived in Connecticut.

Oh really? When did he live in Connecticut and what was his address?

[jamese777]

Was SENIOR born in 1890 and then again on 8/04/1961????

Post #60

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What follows is a quotation with a link to the entire blog piece so it can be read in context.

“If there is any clear evidence of fraud, it is the 1890 date that Taitz flouts. First, if the SSN was really for a person born in 1890, that person would be dead. The Social Security death index doesn’t list this number, so we can presume that the 1890 date is bogus. However, there is more direct evidence that it’s wrong and Taitz knows it. In her own court filing in Barnett v. Obama (page 5) she shows where the 1890 date comes from. The document says:

Dates of Birth Associated with SSN:

1890
08/04/1961
04/08/1961

Obviously the third is a typographical error on the correct date (the second) and 1890 is just database garbage. Which is the more likely date of birth from the preceding list? If you are convinced that everything Obama does is a fraud, then the first entry is the one to pick. If you’re looking for the real answer, you pick the one that makes sense, the President’s actual date of birth.

While Taitz claims that the SSN Obama uses “was issued to another individual”, she never says who that individual is, and this is because the record for that SSN belongs to none other than Barack Obama himself, as we see from Orly’s own filing.

What about the Connecticut number series? It’s an interesting question, but there’s no law that says you have to get your SSN from a Social Security office in the state where you reside. Nowadays, they are all processed centrally and the assignment is based on the zip code of the return address. My guess (and that’s all it is) is that Obama got his SSN as a child living in Indonesia and the application was just processed in Connecticut. What it most certainly does not mean is Taitz’s surprising conclusion: “foreign birth and lack of proper citizenship status.” (Connecticut is not a foreign country either.)”
http://www.obamaconspiracy.org/2010/02/obamas-social-security-number/

[Brown Deer]

You made a statement about 0bama, Senior. Now back it up!

[jamese777]

Oh really? When did he live in Connecticut and what was his address?

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I can’t help you with the address, sorry.
Scroll down to claim #2:
http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/muslim.asp

[Churchillspirit]

According to The Obama Timeline, the lovely Michelle has used several SS numbers also.

What a pair!

[jamese777]

You made a statement about 0bama, Senior. Now back it up!

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Yes SIR!!!
See post #77. The “Snopes” article is from 2009, way before there was any Social Security number controversy.

[Kleon]

The Social Security Administration does not get their data from credit card companies.

It's not the SSA that these investigators are searching. They are using relatively crude tools like LexisNexis and Accurint that don't verify all their information on someone.