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1 posted on 05/15/2010 9:51:35 AM PDT by CodeToad
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Had to get a travel card to go to Mexico....about 35 years ago. I think it was yellow...


2 posted on 05/15/2010 9:55:58 AM PDT by Sacajaweau (What)
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Other than travel out of the US, why do we need a national ID? I’m not saying we don’t need ID’s, just curious why a national ID.

Once someone is in the US, legally or illegally (border crossers, visa overstays), nobody asks for papers anyway. Even if we had a national ID or even a tamperproof worker ID, it won’t solve the border problems. People working for cash (Home Depot day laborers), drug smugglers, hit men, terrorits, etc. don’t need ID’s anyway.


3 posted on 05/15/2010 9:59:01 AM PDT by umgud (Obama is a failed experiment.)
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It sorta makes sense when crossing the border a _lot_. I used to live about an hour from Canada, and went almost weekly for a couple years. Passports worked fine, but a card would have been a bit more convenient.

They start requiring it INSIDE this country, and I’ll stop carrying ID altogether. Domestic “paperien, bitte” will be met with all due vigor as guided by study of history.


4 posted on 05/15/2010 9:59:44 AM PDT by ctdonath2 (+)
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Yes.


5 posted on 05/15/2010 10:01:45 AM PDT by marron
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Separate issues,I think.Yes,if there ever is a “national ID card” it would probably look much like this but *all* nations have passports...even the freest,least authoritarian ones.


6 posted on 05/15/2010 10:03:12 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Host The Beer Summit-->Win The Nobel Peace Prize!)
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Yes, the passport card has a vicinity-read radio frequency identification (RFID) chip."

Just pop it in a microwave oven for about 10 seconds...

7 posted on 05/15/2010 10:04:49 AM PDT by glorgau
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I had to have a pic for my drivers license, work place, and a Professional license (I was fingerprinted for that)....

Why is everyone so worried about a new ID card???

8 posted on 05/15/2010 10:05:02 AM PDT by Sacajaweau (What)
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Just last week someone with whom I was traveling who uses a pp card had a hell of a time with the idiots at Jet Blue who didn’t want to let him on the plane because they said the card wasn’t valid ID !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


10 posted on 05/15/2010 10:12:25 AM PDT by kabumpo (Kabumpo)
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Does the book have the chip and if you have the book, can you just use it instead of the card to go to Canada or Mexico?


12 posted on 05/15/2010 10:14:08 AM PDT by Freedom56v2 ("If you think healthcare is expensive now, wait till it is free"--PJ O'rourke)
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I have no problem with a national ID card, if it is reasonably secure & protected from forgery & fraud, but I realize that last part is ultimately, extremely difficult. And I have little faith in our bureaucracy to master anything beyond greed.


13 posted on 05/15/2010 10:21:53 AM PDT by Mister Da (The mark of a wise man is not what he knows, but what he knows he doesn't know!)
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I carry my passport with me everywhere, and use it for proof of identification when needed (credit cards, etc). It does not contain my address, my State of residence, and no code or information that can be traced through any State database. And it is accepted nation-wide as proof of identification.

In other words, it’s better than a driver’s license in terms of proof of identity and keeping my personal information secure.


16 posted on 05/15/2010 10:43:00 AM PDT by PugetSoundSoldier (Indignation over the Sting of Truth is the defense of the indefensible)
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No it’s not a step towards anything. It’s nothing more than a quicker cheaper limited usage passport. Anybody that’s only driving/ walking to Mexico or Canada can get it and save $60. Doesn’t really accomplish much, other than end some of the whining when we finally started requiring passports for crossing the Mexican and Canadian borders.


31 posted on 05/15/2010 5:38:39 PM PDT by discostu (wanted: brick, must be thick and well kept)
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I thought the Real ID Act of 2005 was the basis for a National ID. It’s still hasn’t been implement and there are some efforts trying to have it eliminated. But it was a national effort to standardize IDs for use on the national and state level.


34 posted on 05/15/2010 5:50:32 PM PDT by deport
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