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Answers Needed Before Another Star is Added to U.S. Flag (Portorico?)
Redstate ^ | 04/24/10 | Rep. Doc Hastings

Posted on 04/24/2010 12:15:15 AM PDT by American Dream 246

Next week the House of Representatives will vote on H.R. 2499, the Puerto Rico Democracy Act, which gives the people of Puerto Rico the opportunity to vote on their political future including the possibility of becoming America’s 51st state. Officially, the bill would create a two-step voting process where the people of Puerto Rico would vote to either maintain the status quo or select a different political status. If a different political status is desired by the majority of the electorate, Puerto Ricans would have three options: independence, free association with the U.S., or full statehood.

If that sounds unnecessarily confusing, it’s because it is. And there are numerous questions about the implications of this bill that no one is talking about. For example:

Could this bill create a path towards statehood? Absolutely. Statehood is the goal of the bill’s backers. It is said the results of the vote is nonbinding, but should the statehood option be declared the winner, it could be used to press Congress to act as soon as next year on a vote to make Puerto Rico the 51st state. This is troubling since the winner just needs to receive the most votes, not the majority (ie, Statehood could “win” with 34% of the vote.) Shouldn’t a strong majority of people support statehood before admission is considered – as was the case with both Hawaii and Alaska?

Would Puerto Rico statehood mean they would get seats in Congress? Puerto Rico has a population of four million people – as a state, they would receive two U.S. Senators and 6-7 House seats. But as long as there is 435 seat maximum in the House, if Puerto Rico receives 6 seats then other states expecting to gain a seat after the 2010 census would lose representation.

If both Spanish and English are the official language of Puerto Rico, how would that work if it became a state? When the House considered a similar bill in 1998, a vote on the issue of English as the official language was allowed, but it’s unknown whether current House Democrat leaders will allow a similar vote this time.

Would a new state add costs to the federal government? A new state would come with significant costs – spending that would measure in the billions of dollar a year.

Shouldn’t the people of Puerto Rico be allowed to vote to express their views on their future political status? I’m very sympathetic to allowing the people of Puerto Rico to express their views – yet they are free to hold such a vote anytime they choose to conduct one. If a Congressionally-sanctioned vote is going to be held, it must come with an open, thorough understanding of what independence or statehood would mean to Puerto Rico and the existing 50 states. This approach of voting first and answering questions later is exactly backwards. Furthermore, it makes no sense that H.R. 2499 allows not just residents of Puerto Rico to vote, but extends voting privileges to anyone in the other 50 states who was born in Puerto Rico. Why should someone who has lived and voted for decades in Alabama or Wyoming be given special status over their neighbors to vote on whether Puerto Rico becomes a state?

The bottom line is that there are many questions that have not been answered, and there are a great many implications that aren’t being considered or even discussed. Congress owes it to the citizens of the 50 states and to the people of Puerto Rico to have a full, open debate and resolve these questions before voting on this bill. If this doesn’t happen, then Representatives should vote NO.


TOPICS: Education; Government; Health/Medicine; Military/Veterans; Miscellaneous; Politics; Religion; Society
KEYWORDS: elections; obama; portorico; usflag

1 posted on 04/24/2010 12:15:15 AM PDT by American Dream 246
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To: American Dream 246

for free health care they will vote for statehood in a minute. Hell, let’s invite Cuba and Venezuela as well!


2 posted on 04/24/2010 12:24:53 AM PDT by Loud Mime (initialpoints.net - - The Constitution as the center of politics -- Download the graph)
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To: Loud Mime

Nope. Right now they live a tax free life with all the benefits. Why would they change?


3 posted on 04/24/2010 12:25:38 AM PDT by Ingtar (Obama's favorite carol: Hark The Herald Angels Sing About Me)
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To: Loud Mime

Ah but according to our beloved presidente they (Cuba and Venezuela) already have better health care then we could ever hope for. </s>


4 posted on 04/24/2010 12:46:14 AM PDT by lowflyn (of cabbages and kings)
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To: Loud Mime

Furthermore, it makes no sense that H.R. 2499 allows not (just residents of Puerto Rico to vote, but extends voting privileges to anyone in the other 50 states who was born in Puerto Rico. Why should someone who has lived and voted for decades in Alabama or Wyoming be given special status over their neighbors to vote on whether Puerto Rico becomes a state?)

Puerto Ricans are American citizens, if they move to say Alabama they should already be able to vote in state and Federal elections. Puerto Rico is an American territory!Am I wrong on this?


5 posted on 04/24/2010 12:57:10 AM PDT by mdmathis6 (Mike Mathis is my name,opinions are my own,subject to flaming when deserved!)
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To: American Dream 246
Cheesy bum's rush to put two more Democrat butts in Senate seats.

"Bottom line."

Companion piece: Voting House seat for Eleanor Holmes Norton and DC -- oh, and will there be electoral votes with that? How long before DC gets two senators of their own?

"You should have stopped me at the dinner roll."

6 posted on 04/24/2010 12:57:51 AM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: mdmathis6
Puerto Ricans are American citizens.....

No, they are U.S. nationals, like Territorial residents. They are only citizens if they are residents of one of the 50 States, or a child of same.

7 posted on 04/24/2010 1:00:32 AM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: American Dream 246

It is a partisan political maneuver.
Why would you think there would be any debate?


8 posted on 04/24/2010 1:34:06 AM PDT by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (NEW TAG ====> **REPEAL OR REBEL!** -- Islam Delenda Est! -- Rumble thee forth)
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To: lentulusgracchus

will there be electoral votes with that

DC has had three electoral votes for decades.


9 posted on 04/24/2010 1:34:23 AM PDT by Lucius Cornelius Sulla (Pray for my soul. More things are wrought by prayer Than this world dreams of.-- Idylls of the King)
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To: lentulusgracchus

I don’t believe you are right. I think only American Samoa’s residents are nationals, but Puerto Rico, Guam, etc’s are citizens.


10 posted on 04/24/2010 1:34:37 AM PDT by Greg123456
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To: American Dream 246

How about keeping the flag at 50 and the senate at 100 by unloading a state like CA or combining two like ND and SD?


11 posted on 04/24/2010 1:36:13 AM PDT by Greg123456
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To: American Dream 246

I hope these people will vote to go their independent way. We don’t need another state of welfare grubbers.


12 posted on 04/24/2010 3:50:14 AM PDT by Buddygirl
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To: Ingtar

bingo


13 posted on 04/24/2010 4:16:37 AM PDT by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: American Dream 246

What’s Puerto Rican for “Anschluss” ?


14 posted on 04/24/2010 4:17:31 AM PDT by PLMerite (Ride to the sound of the Guns - I'll probably need help.)
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To: Greg123456

Puerto Rico is a commonwealth. They have representation in the House but no voting privelege. What concerns me is that this resolution changes the way that this territory can gain statehood. Currently only citizens of Purto Rico have the right to vote on statehood. This changes the rules to allow non-Purto Rican citizens, born in Puerto Rico but now US citizens to vote on Puerto Rico’s statehood. It stinks of vote grubbing just like Herry Reid’s push for illegal immigrant amnesty before the midterms. I just emailed my Rep about this...


15 posted on 04/24/2010 5:01:00 AM PDT by Antoninus II
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To: Ingtar

No income, no tax.


16 posted on 04/24/2010 6:09:24 AM PDT by Loud Mime (initialpoints.net - - The Constitution as the center of politics -- Download the graph)
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