Islamic State of America.com

Logans Warning ^ | April 23rd, 2010 | Christopher Logan

[Islaminaction]

For nearly 1400 years, non-Muslims have made excuse after excuse for Islam. Outside of Israel, Islam has taken over the Middle East, Afghanistan, Bangladesh, Indonesia, and Malaysia. It has also taken over large portions of Africa, Europe, India, the Philippines (Moro region), and (Southern) Thailand, etc. Now the problem is in our backyard, and the excuses for Islam continue. How much more land does it have to dominate before we wake up? The world avoided Nazism for as long as it could, and like the Nazis, pro-Sharia Muslims are not hiding their agenda. Here is more proof of that.

[Islaminaction]

Islamic expansionism/threat ping list. If anyone wants on or off, please email me. Thanks!

[GeronL]

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[rfreedom4u]

Well, if our current thugocracy will read the US constitution, it clearly states that the federal government guarantees each state a REPUBLIC form of government. Therefore an islamic state would be illegal.

[Islaminaction]

Those calling for an Islamic state should be arrested, and deported if possible.

[353FMG]

Tell that to our congresscritters. I have yet to see ONE of them comment on the rapid encroachment of this sinister ideology that is totally incompatible with the American way of life.

[tired_old_conservative]

Well, I'm not on the ping list, but I just wandered across this. I think Islamic terrorism is certainly a threat, but they don't really dominate a lot of that land you mentioned. And I looked up this Islamic State of America site; it seems pretty moribund.

Their list of what must be accomplished seems odd:

1. Teach tolerance and acceptance to the children - Achieved

Actually, that's a natural and naturally evolving part of our culture, so I don't think they had anything to do with it. If anything, their children are likely to be infected by it. The kids probably won't mind, either.

2. Create acceptance for a plurality of gods –Achieved

Again, that's part of our culture. They didn't have anything to do with it, and it renders us more resistant to falling under the sway of anyone’s absolute sense of religious fervor, not less. Plus, it's hard to imagine a real fundamentalist Islamicist advocating that when their whole religious sense is centered around what they would consider to be the one true God.

3. Gain sympathies and eventually acceptance in Hollywood -Achieved

Okay. Sure, maybe they can claim to have done that.

4. Register 100,000 Muslim voters -Achieved

I hate to break it to them, but they're going to need a heck of a lot more than that.

5. Get “acceptable” Islamic’s elected to congress and senate -Achieved

They've got what—one or two? I'd hardly call that achieved.

6. Win the war in Iraq at all costs -Close

Actually, they're not close. We obviously aren't going to be leaving behind the kind of closely allied government many Americans might have imagined when we took over. But they certainly haven't won. At worst for us it's just a mixed bag. Lots of things in life are.

7. Recognition for Islamic holidays -Achieved

Not really. We may have a stamp for Ramadan, but I don't recall any government offices, schools or businesses being closed. And they have a lot more holidays than just Ramadan. Do you think the average American can name even one of those?

8. Get Barack Hussein Obama elected as President -Achieved

Again, I don't really think they can take credit for that. That's like me leaning up against a building during an earthquake and then being amazed by my own strength when it falls.

9. Achieve application of shariah law –Close

Yeah, right. (roll eyes)

10. Enact zakat— Close

Again, yeah, right (roll eyes). But I will admit to actually knowing what zakat is.

11. Seat judges that will remove common law— Achieved

Common law? And that's supposed to mean what exactly? And how many judges have they actually seated? I think the answer would be a big, fat zero.

12. Prepare for militant take over if necessary— Unknown

Judging from their performance on the previous 11, I suspect it will be necessary. And I would give them a chance of slim and none without the slim.

Just my thoughts. Again, it's certainly a real security issue on a number of fronts, but having fought in the Cold War and lived with the specter of nuclear annihilation from the Soviet Union, the threat of an Islamic State of America being realized seems like some pretty weak tea.

[MestaMachine]

You are wrong. Maybe you should add yourself to the ping list.
You have no idea how far islam has encroached on our laws and our Constitution, not to mention taking over neighborhoods and universities.
Then there are the banks and financial firms who cater to sharia.
And then there are the public schools that enact rules to appease muslims masking the rules as something else like zero tolerance for touching. TOUCHING. All kids pay for ONE muslim being in a public school.
And then there are islamic indoctrination classes in public schools.
And the list goes on and on.

[Islaminaction]

Please point out which land they do not dominate, that I said that they did.

Muslims to not have to enact change through our laws yet. They do it on the ground by constantly whining about what needs to be changed to suit their religion. Comparing this enemy to that of the Cold War, is not really a vaild comparison. Muslims are slowly taking over the word through the political aspect of Islam. If things do not change, it is just a matter of time until they takeover the West.

Iraq is now a Christian persecuting country, I do not consider that a great victory. Also the Sunni vs. Shiite feud took 69 lives today. That feud is not going to go away because the infidel wants it to. When the troops leave, it will only get worse.

[Islaminaction]

BTW, that site is just the tip of the iceberg. Here is another...

Top Ranked Islamic Site Calls for the Final Jihad!

http://loganswarning.com/2010/04/18/top-ranked-islamic-site-calls-for-the-final-jihad/

[USF]

"I think Islamic terrorism is certainly a threat, but they don't really dominate a lot of that land you mentioned..."

The problem is they think on a different timescale than the average westerner. We often see political change in years, or decades - they often think back 100's or over 1000 years to the examples of islamic expansion and territorial conquest of vast tracks of territory across the globe after they crawled out of the Hijaz.

What you see them attempting to do in the US now, using ikhwan fronts and methods, is marking territory in the way a dog would pee on a tree. Once they can establish a history of "muslim settlement" and of compliance to sharia in a geographical location, it (in their eyes) justifies the next stage - acquisition of physical territory.

In decades or centuries to come, they will point to the areas where muslims lived, practiced sharia, or shared a keg of camels p*$$, and use it to justify land that was claimed, and this it would be an obligation to wage a violent jihad over.

You already see this second phase starting in EUrabia - muslim only areas, no-go zones for the kuffar.

After thru their own long history, WWII, the threat of the Soviet Empire and nuclear annihilation, I would guess the average EUrabian did not think islamic immigration (even just 2-5% muslims) would allow them to be dictated to by believers of a barbaric 7th Century ideology.

Muslims rule major Swedish city

(UK) Bishop warns of no-go zones for non-Muslims

The 751 No-Go Zones of France

[Islaminaction]

If Muslims were smart they would not even fire another shot. Just continue using the non-violent attack.

[Hardraade]

TOC! I thought you were sticking to trolling the obama eligibility threads - yet here you are, making light of the swinish islamic takeover efforts.

Maybe not so strange, considering what Obama is, after all.

[tired_old_conservative]

“Outside of Israel, Islam has taken over the Middle East, Afghanistan, Bangladesh, Indonesia, and Malaysia.”

I think the tone of that is kind of alarmist. Of course it's the dominant religion in the Middle East. That is it's birthplace, coming well after the other Semitic religions and easily overwhelming them in another age. That's hardly a new or dramatic phenomena. And the spread to Malaysia and Indonesia is also a historic fact. Nothing new there.

It has also taken over large portions of Africa, Europe, India, the Philippines (Moro region), and (Southern) Thailand, etc.”

It took over large portions of Africa in the initial expansion. It has certainly made inroads in select countries, predominantly on the eastern half. That is true. But it has not taken over large portions of Europe. That is an exaggeration of a primarily urban phenomena associated with quasi-segregated immigrant enclaves. The experience in the US appears to be much more diffuse, largely due to our being an immigrant nation that naturally diffuses cultural concentrations even as they build. And Muslims certainly do not dominate India. They have a historical minority there that if anything is as often truly aggrieved as it is the aggressor. What they dominate is Pakistan, which was left off the list.

The regions of the Phillipines and Thailand you cite are also legacy populations not threatening the nations as a whole, but squabbling over treatment of an aggrieved minority. That's the exact same thing the Indian and Chinese populations do in Malaysia, which also sometimes spills over into violence, although less so as it has a historically more stable government.

“Now the problem is in our backyard, and the excuses for Islam continue. How much more land does it have to dominate before we wake up? The world avoided Nazism for as long as it could, and like the Nazis, pro-Sharia Muslims are not hiding their agenda.”

I don't think we have any problem even remotely comparable to that of poorer counties with varying degrees of central authority and historically aggrieved minority populations where literally hundreds can be killed by outbreaks on either side. What we have is a lot of kvetching about our civil rights. Certainly some of it is annoying. But the various entangled grievances of poor people in poor countries do not automatically place us at risk of anything other than acts of terrorism. Nor is the idea that the Muslim hordes will take over inherently any more valid than historical fears of the yellow peril or other similar stuff. In terms of actual ability to harm us, nations like Russia, China and even India have far more potential.

Muslims are not taking over the world. Much of their extremist rage is precisely over a perceived sense of powerlessness. That's a real issue to contend with, but we are not nearly as weak or fragile as our fears may sometimes counsel. We are the most powerful nation on earth, one with a tiny Muslim population.

In my opinion, if and when we eventually fall, it will be to the demons Western civilization created, such as communism or fascism, the things part and parcel of our own cultural DNA. It will not be to some poor religion alien to that culture and the vast majority of the population. None of which is to say that Islam cannot be a threat, or that it doesn't warrant monitoring and action at times. But hyperbole aside, Islam is not currently in any position to destroy us. If that is our destiny, we have already sewn those seeds ourselves, and they will reach fruition with or without Islam.

[MestaMachine]

Have you looked at the islamic republic of what used to be Great Britain lately? Or what is going on in Canada?

[tired_old_conservative]

“TOC! I thought you were sticking to trolling the obama eligibility threads - yet here you are, making light of the swinish islamic takeover efforts.

Maybe not so strange, considering what Obama is, after all.”

I'm not making light of the threat. But I'm proud of this country, the land of the free and the home of the brave. And I've fought as an American soldier. I know how we fight wars, and I know the vast gulf between our capabilities and those of most adversaries. I know the enormous reservoirs of common sense and practicality in this country no matter how much we bleat about the sheeple every time a Democrat wins an election. I recognize Islam as a potential threat, but I'm not scared of it. That doesn't mean I take it's side; far from it.

If Obama or anyone else ruins us, it won't be because of some secret Islamic conspiracy. it will be because of Western philosophies that debilitate and degrade free nations. We already know what those are and used to rightly focus on them. I'm simply saying gage the various threats out there and don't blow one all out of proportion at the expense of others that may be more real.

What we have to fear is not these

[tired_old_conservative]

Accidentally cut off. The last line was this.

What we have to fear is not the phantoms that make us feel most engaged, but the very real and slow corrosion of our own principles occurring all around us.

[Islaminaction]

1. Maybe we should sound the alarm after it is too late.
2. So its spread is nothing new. Your comment is pointless.... you seem to have no problem with Islam advancing.
3. You stated that they do not dominate where I said that they do. You have failed to prove me wrong.
4.I said parts of India. There is also Pakistan. Lets stick to what I said.
5. Muslims are trying to create Islamic states WITHIN Thailand, and the Philippines. If they get their way they will spread out from there. That is a problem.
6.Me pointing out how much land they have taken over, and how quickly Islam is spreading across the West, shows that they are taking over the world. I stand with facts, over your opinion.
7.Muslims do not have to be anywhere near the majority to takeover. All they need to do is keep pushing, and have excuse makers on their side.
8.US being the most powerful nation military wise, will not stop the political aspect of Islam from advancing. Stop comparing this to the Cold War.

[Islaminaction]

Islam is not a phantom, and it advances because of people with your view points. Islam allows exortion, lying, and rape. Why are you so protective of it?

[john drake]

Islam won’t be able to resist, they haven’t the patience in our Western world because the “gold ring” is staring them in the face and they’ll grab for it sooner than wait. They attempt to be passive but their emotional resentment combined with their desire to overthrow the West will be too much to control and they’ll step out of bounds too soon. The solid West (Judeo-Christian, Greco-Roman) will have gone underground while the neo-pagan, utopians attempt to create a shared world with the muslims, and find out they’re sense of trust and brotherly concern with islam to be an illusion. They don’t understand islam for what it really is, only what they wish it to be; too late for them, but not for us. We’ll let the enemies of the West, both the muslims and the neo-pagans, attempt to destroy each other, and we’ll arise again and rid ourselves of whatever is left of either of them. We’ll return the world to the way the Judeo-Christian God intended it to be; the way of Western Civilization.