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Great interview.
1 posted on 04/19/2010 8:32:58 PM PDT by adamjefferson
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“Lack standing” has been the ruling from all the Clinton-appointed federal judges that have tossed out the lawsuits.

Or they say: The voters have spoken in the last election.

???

If the voters voted to reinstate prayer in schools they’d toss it out tomorrow. They care what voters think?

That’s not the issue. Issue is: Obama has not proven he is eligible for the office of president. WHO has standing to challenge that? No Court has yet answered.


2 posted on 04/19/2010 8:36:14 PM PDT by TigerBait
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It seems like the “lacks standing” line fails in the case of an officer in the military worried he is taking illegal orders. The Nuremberg trials wouldn't have accepted not questioning authority if a defendant had tried to claim they hadn't challenged the orders because they felt they “lacked standing”.
4 posted on 04/19/2010 8:49:37 PM PDT by highlander_UW (First we take down the Democrats, then we clean the Augean stable that is the GOP.)
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To: adamjefferson

Without debating all the issues covered in this interview, let me say that this is one of the best all encompassing explanations of the situation that I have read.

Share this with anyone who is on the fence or still a denier.


5 posted on 04/19/2010 8:52:47 PM PDT by Hypo
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To: adamjefferson

Heck, I’m only halfway through this thing. But there is a case and I believe it is going to have to come to some kind of conclusion. There is an opportunity here for some aspiring reporter to become the next supper hero, I just someone takes it. This is starting to feel like the biggest conspiracy in the history of mankind.


7 posted on 04/19/2010 9:32:27 PM PDT by JoSixChip (It's time to embrace the madness! The sooner we default the sooner we can reorganize.)
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To: adamjefferson

SFL!


8 posted on 04/19/2010 9:38:53 PM PDT by Randy Larsen ( BTW, If I offend you! Please let me know, I may want to offend you again!(FR #1690))
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Great read. Is it true that both parents must be citizens and he’d not qualify even if he was born in Hawaii?

I’m so paranoid about these people that I wonder if the LTC isn’t going to force this issue then zero produces his b.c. right before the 2012 elections. Or it’s simply postponed until then. Then all the press apologizes for him even being questioned and those who’ve come to our side bounce back to his side.


9 posted on 04/19/2010 9:42:18 PM PDT by Terry Mross (Founding Fathers.....grave....rolling over.)
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To: LucyT; rxsid

ping.


13 posted on 04/19/2010 9:51:07 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar (*)
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To: adamjefferson

Wow, I thought this thread would have gotten a little more attention. Where are all the obumber defenders?


15 posted on 04/19/2010 10:02:21 PM PDT by JoSixChip (It's time to embrace the madness! The sooner we default the sooner we can reorganize.)
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To: adamjefferson

Proving lack of eligibility may be the only way we can get the commie out of our White House.


18 posted on 04/19/2010 10:14:49 PM PDT by Kimberly GG ("Path to Citizenship" Amnesty candidates will NOT get my vote!)
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Eligibility challenger
to go public today =

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=143021


20 posted on 04/19/2010 10:41:41 PM PDT by jarofants
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To: adamjefferson

But, you all know,

That if you question the Zer0 and his past, you will be labelled a racist.

Never look into the past of a poseur, unless you want “racist” embroidered on your forehead!


21 posted on 04/19/2010 10:42:56 PM PDT by Noob1999 (LOOSE LIPS, SINK SHIPS)
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To: adamjefferson; LucyT; Fred Nerks; BP2; null and void; stockpirate; george76; PhilDragoo; Candor7; ..
From the article (about midway through): "Spokesperson for Army Doctor Challenging Obama’s Eligibility speaks with The Post & Email"

MRS. HEMENWAY ..."I have been up to the Hill, and there are some honest staffers up there, and I did talk to a couple of them, and one of them told me just flat-out, “We have zero evidence that he’s even a citizen.”

MRS. RONDEAU: Really? A staffer?

MRS. HEMENWAY: Oh, yes. There are some very bright people up there, and some very patriotic people up there. But their bosses won’t do anything about it because they don’t want to go to their town hall or their next press event and have some left-wing reporter calling them a “birther.

There it is! What many of us knew from the start. Fear & NOBODY want's to be label a "racist" or the new ever so dreaded label "birther."

To HE!! with the Constitution and the truth!

41 posted on 04/20/2010 1:13:36 PM PDT by rxsid (HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN'S STATUS BE "GOVERNED" BY GREAT BRITAIN? - Leo Donofrio (2009))
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HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN'S STATUS BE "GOVERNED" BY GREAT BRITAIN?

 

“When Barack Obama Jr. was born on Aug. 4,1961, in Honolulu, Kenya was a British colony, still part of the United Kingdom’s dwindling empire. As a Kenyan native, Barack Obama Sr. was a British subject whose citizenship status was governed by The British Nationality Act of 1948. That same act governed the status of Obama Sr.‘s children.
http://fightthesmears.com/articles/5/birthcertificate.html

Factcheck.org goes on to say this about Obama Sr., Jr. and the British Nationality Act of 1948:

In other words, at the time of his birth, Barack Obama Jr. was both a U.S. citizen (by virtue of being born in Hawaii) and a citizen of the United Kingdom and Colonies (or the UKC) by virtue of being born to a father who was a citizen of the UKC.
http://www.factcheck.org/askfactcheck/does_barack_obama_have_kenyan_citizenship.html

 

Even the modern day State Department rules discusses the problems associated with dual citizenship:

7 FAM 081: U.S. Policy on Dual Nationality:

(e)While recognizing the existence of dual nationality, the U.S. Government does not encourage it as a matter of policy because of the problems it may cause. Dual nationality may hamper efforts by the U.S. Government to provide diplomatic and consular protection to individuals overseas. When a U.S. citizen is in the other country of their dual nationality, that country has a predominant claim on the person.

...

the U.S. Supreme Court has stated that dual nationality is a "status long recognized in the law" and that "a person may have and exercise rights of nationality in two countries and be subject to the responsibilities of both." See Kawakita v. United States, 343 U.S. 717 (1952).

http://www.state.gov/documents/organization/86563.pdf

So, back to the question: "HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN'S STATUS BE "GOVERNED" BY GREAT BRITAIN?"
It can't. Of course not. Yet, right there, on his campaign web site F.T.S., it's stated that a foreign government "governed" Barry from birth and the reason it did, was that Barry inherited that foreign citizenship by way of his foreign national father (no matter where he was born), a fact backed up by Factcheck.org. Assuming, of course, that Sr. was his legal father at birth.
How, then, could he possibly be a "Natural Born Citizen" of the U.S.?
Barry Soetoro, the divided citizen at birth!

Barack Obama a/k/a Barry Soetoro NOT Obama / Soetoro

http://www.jeffersonsrebels.blogspot.com

Furthermore:  Hawaii's Territorial Law, Chapter 57 - "VITAL STATISTICS, I", shown beginning pg 23 of 29, (the law in effect in 1961) allowed the parents (or grandparents or other relative) of baby's born anywhere in the world to be eligible to apply for a Hawaiian birth certificate. A mailed-in form (without mention of a hospital, doctor, or midwife) signed by one of his grandparents (who forged the parent signature(s)) would have been enough to set up a birth record and a birth certificate at the Dept of Health. The Dept of Health would then have automatically sent the names of the parents, their address as given on the mailed-in form , the gender of the child, and the date of birth to the Honolulu Advertiser and Star-Bulletin. The address given for the parents in the newspaper announcements is actually, however, the August 1961 home address of Obama’s maternal grandparents Stanley and Madelyn Dunham [6085 Kalanianaole Highway], and not the 1961 home address of Barack Obama, Sr. [625 11th Ave].) This notification would then have automatically generated the newspaper announcements. (This was the practice of the Honolulu Advertiser and Star-Bulletin at the time).

Bottom line: Even IF (big IF) he was born in HI, he inherited his father's foreign citizenship as well, making him a US citizen by US law and the subject of the crown of her majesty the Queen of England by inheritance and England's law. He could not be considered a Natural Born Citizen as known by and as intended by the framers.

42 posted on 04/20/2010 1:15:26 PM PDT by rxsid (HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN'S STATUS BE "GOVERNED" BY GREAT BRITAIN? - Leo Donofrio (2009))
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To: adamjefferson

This is a brilliant interview, worth reading in full. Mrs. Hemenway is extremely impressive.


43 posted on 04/20/2010 1:24:03 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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The article provided by the link has one of the best exposes of the gutless weasel, Bill O'Reilly, that I've ever read.

Leni

51 posted on 04/20/2010 2:00:33 PM PDT by MinuteGal
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It’s surreal. What I hate is the dishonesty.
I have been up to the Hill, and there are some honest staffers up there, and I did talk to a couple of them, and one of them told me just flat-out, “We have zero evidence that he’s even a citizen.”
MRS. RONDEAU: Really? A staffer?
MRS. HEMENWAY: Oh, yes.


61 posted on 04/20/2010 8:45:45 PM PDT by DontTreadOnMe2009 (So stop treading on me already!)
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