Posted on 04/11/2010 3:02:29 PM PDT by InspectorSmith
"If America was living in a situation where they feared ethnicity and did not see itself as a multiparty state or nation, how could a young man born here in Kenya, who is not even a native American, become the President of America? It is because they did away with exclusion. What has killed us here is exclusion; that once Mr. Orengo is President, I know of no other place than Ugenya. That is why we were fighting against these many Presidencies in the past. I hope that Kenya will come of age. This country must come of age. People want freedom and nations want liberation, but countries want independence."
(Excerpt) Read more at bunge.go.ke ...
I posed the question in #601 about why Smith felt the need to do his shaky walk through a third world environment introduction to his latest (3 part) video.
Smith (as far as I know ) has never said where this video was or where his first one (BC video) was done
It is very curious ,as the first video is assumed to be in Africa.
In that video it is almost as if Smith had just got a hold of the BC and went as quick as he could to the first safe place he could find to record it and bring it to the world..
Now he repeats the same thing in the latest video yet he makes no claim about returning to Africa. So if it is not in Africa and it looks like its in the same neighborhood as the first one doesnt that remind us again that we do not know for sure where the first video is shot?
For those who are out there who say they dont care about such silly things I say you ,like Smith have put the cart before the horse.
Smith has spent months arguing over arcane questions involving Kenya, doctor’s names,hospital procedures. law, birth in Kenya , you name it and I think he is settled in to hold court on these issues for as long as he can....
Yet we still do not have ANY poof that he went to Africa.....
we do has his vaunted word however.
I have never asked Smith for ABSOLUTE proof that he has done what he says he has done ...but I do think he owes me and the general public some sort of attempt to verify his story. He can start by saying where the first video and this latest one were shot.
Until he answers that and shows some sort of evidence that he has been to Africa (pictures?) he should shut up about the BC and act like any of the rest of us Freepers who dont claim to be document finding heros.
In short Smith is just a guy with opinions
I understand what you are saying and agree with some of it, BUT we don’t know what he has given the courts, attorneys or other people he is working with. He said that he would gladly take a polygraph. Anyone interested?
Can you provide us with a link for Freddie Mercury’s Zanzibar birth certificate? You claim that it is online.
By the way, would you stop with the claim that there are other colonial Kenyan birth certicates online? THERE ARE NOT AND HAVE NEVER BEEN.
A 1964 KENYA REPUBLIC governnment birth certificate is not a colonial birth certicate and IS NEVER A HOSPITAL BIRTH CERTIFICATE.
And I am close to ascertaining that in the Protectorate of Kenyan and Zanzibar that it was ONLY THE HOSPITALS THAT ISSUED AND KEPT BIRTH RECORDS, ESPECIALLY FOR AFRICANS (non-Europeanns).
Thank you for at least conceding that you are wrong in at least some areas of your claims.
PS. Please don’t photoshop one for him. And if you think that I am obsessed with WND then why are you obsessed with me if this is all a big fraud as you claim?
Stop being jealous. Get off you butt and go find a document and stop crying so much. You’re like a girl.
Kim aka Mik,
It looks like you are probably right about Zanzibar. I just checked my email and saw the link that you provided for Freddie Mercury’s Zanzibar bith certificate.
I wasn’t sure about Zanzibar and I made sure to say that I was close to ascertaining. Unless there are circumstances surrounding Freddie Mercurys birth which warranted special attention.
I will look into this an include it in my research.
I believe that this may be the first time ever that Great Kim aka Mik Teard has brought real evidence to the table. This is great!
Thank you.
Your so clever Smith .....how you avoid answering even the most simple question
Lucas,
as you requested
here is the Freddie Mercury certificate issued in 1946 by the government of Zanzibar.
http://www.freewebs.com/mercury_girl/Queen%20freddie%27s%20birth%20cert.bmp
http://mr-mercury.co.uk/Images/Birthcertificatefreddie.jpg
Here is bio of Freddie
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freddie_Mercury
I believe that this may be the first time ever that Great Kim aka Mik Teard has brought real evidence to the table. This is great!
Lucas,
you well know it isn’t so. I have provided sources that bring me to believe taht Maganga was appointed CA only AFTER feb 19th 2009. On that precise day, according to the refernces made by the kenyan press, the CA seems to have been Jennifer Othigo. This is importamt and you should treat it a such not because it is MY finding but because it confutes your assertions. Other times I have made wrong calls such as in the case of your last video. I am allways ready to admit to my errors.
By the way, would you stop with the claim that there are other colonial Kenyan birth certicates online? THERE ARE NOT AND HAVE NEVER BEEN.
Never said so.
To Great Kim aka Mik Tearg,
I am now reviewing the supposed “Freddie Mercury” birth certificate from “The Government of Zanzibar”.
At this point I am not so sure that this birth certificate is real.
Did you create it? You do work in graphic design as we all know. And you have forged other document and birth certificates.
If I find that this “Freddie Mercury” birth certificate is a fake I will NEVER respond to any other question that you put to me.
You are one of the most dedicated Obots that I know of. You have no problems with lies, deceit, and forgery as a means that justifies the ends.
If you created the Zanzibar birth certificate I advise you to admit now that you did so.
I take back any praise that I might have alluded to the other day when you made your “discovery” of a “Zanzibar Government” issued birth certificate from 1946.
Respectfully,
Lucas D. Smith
I am now reviewing the supposed “Freddie Mercury” birth certificate from “The Government of Zanzibar”.
At this point I am not so sure that this birth certificate is real.
Did you create it? You do work in graphic design as we all know. And you have forged other document and birth certificates.
If I find that this “Freddie Mercury” birth certificate is a fake I will NEVER respond to any other question that you put to me.
You are one of the most dedicated Obots that I know of. You have no problems with lies, deceit, and forgery as a means that justifies the ends.
If you created the Zanzibar birth certificate I advise you to admit now that you did so.
I take back any praise that I might have alluded to the other day when you made your “discovery” of a “Zanzibar Government” issued birth certificate from 1946.
Respectfully, Lucas D. Smith
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Mik! you dastardly devil ...
creating a fake Freddie Mercury birth certificate and planting it God knows how long ago at a rock band fan club web site:
http://mr-mercury.co.uk/
All this to make Inspector Smith look like a fool!!!!!
I can do nothing less than demand the exact same things of you that I have demanded of Inspector Smith!
Please post a picture of yourself in Zanzibar (make sure it looks like Zanzibar and not a slum where you live)
Please tell us what happened to the people who helped you create this obvious fake!!!
I have been told by sources I cannot name that you frequently are seen at Kinkos
I demand to know which KINKOS it is !
Respectfully,
Woofie
I’m calling BS on the Freddie thing. Sorry.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freddie_Mercury
This page was last modified on 26 April 2010 at 17:35.
you guys are incredible !!
now you claim I have uploaded the Freddie Mercury Certificate. Well, first of all some information about this certificate.
Here is a site dedicete to Freddie. There are more.
http://www.shirtless.eu/freddie_mercury_en.html
open the page and scroll down until you rach the section “Citations” (it’s at the bottom).
you will read this line linking to the certificate
[1] Government of Zanzibar (1946). “Certificate of Birth”. Retrieved from mr-mercury.co.uk, May 29, 2006.
Understand now ?
This image of the BC was uploaded on May 29th 2006.
MAY 29TH 2006, GOT IT ?
So supposedly in 2006, in preparation for Oama’s election and Lucas’ fraud, I forged a Freddie Mercury certificate, uploaded it on a fan-site and let it there to rest until 2010.
If this is a joke I’m fine.
If you believe it’s fake, (for whatever reason it might as well be) I am sure you can contact the administrators of the Freddie Mercury site.
If this is to demonstrate your investigative skills, you might as well do some further research.
have a nice day
Mine was a joke...
I cant speak for anyone else.....
I just thought it was funny for Smith to be worried about Freddie Mercury ....who in their right mind would think someone would bother making a fake Freddie Mercury BC...Smith is off the deep end
I’m calling BS on the Freddie thing. Sorry.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freddie_Mercury
This page was last modified on 26 April 2010 at 17:35.
Wrong call. Wiki sites are edited all the time, But take a look at this line in the bibliography on the page you are calling:
“Linda B” (2000), Certificate of Birth, Chorley: mr-mercury.co.uk, http://mr-mercury.co.uk/Images/Birthcertificatefreddie.jpg .
Can you read that number: 2000 ?
And allow me just a personal comment. The fact that there is a Freddie Mercury certificate issued by the Government of Zanzibar does not in itself prove that Lucas’ document is a fraud. It only corrects his phrase that the Gov of Zanzibar didn’t issue bc’s.
So unless you think I am Linda B, the person mentioned in the Wiki bibliography, your call is arrogant ans senseless.
Who is Linda B ?
Linda B is the person who opened and managed this Freddie Mercury site:
right at the beginning:
Freddie Mercury, the dynamic lead singer of the best rock band ever....... ‘Queen’. I know....... I’m biased!
Freddie has been an inspiration to myself and many people around the world because of his immense talent, enthusiasm and love of life. He never did anything half-heartedly,.......it was ‘all or nothing - ‘We’ll never forget him! - Linda B.
Food for thought.
Kenyan Citizenship
from the constitution of Kenya
http://kenya.rcbowen.com/constitution/chap6.html#87
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87*. Persons who became citizens on 12th December, 1963
1. Every person who, having been born in Kenya, is on llth December. 1963 a citizen of the United Kingdom and Colonies or a British protected person shall become a citizen of Kenya on 12th December, 1963:
Provided that a person shall not become a citizen of Kenya by virtue of this subsection if neither of his parents was born in Kenya.
2. Every person who, having been born outside Kenya. is on llth December, 1963 a citizen of the United Kingdom and Colonies or a British protected person shall. if his father becomes. or would but for his death have become, a citizen of Kenya by virtue of subsection (1). become a citizen of Kenya on 12th December. 1963.
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88*. Persons entitled to be registered as citizens by virtue of conexion with Kenya before December, 1963
1. A person who, but for the proviso to section 87 (D, would be a citizen of Kenya by virtue of that subsection shall be entitled, upon making application before the specified date in such manner as may be prescribed by or under an Act of Parliament. to be registered as a citizen of Kenya:
Provided that a person who has not attained the age of twenty-one years (other than a woman who is or has been married) may not himself make an application under this subsection, but an application may be made on his behalf by his parent or guardian.
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I don’t care, it’s irrelevant. Much ado about nothing.
Since your goal in life is to discredit Smith, seize your chance.He agreed to take a polygraph test. Take him up on it. We can all donate. Or are you afraid he would pass and your employer would not be a happy camper?
i am self emloyed so I have would have no problem with that.
Here is what a MODERN kenyan BC looks like. The document is issued be the Register. So the procedure has not changed since 1963 (I have posted the links to the Kenyan laws of 1963 some time ago here http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2465278/posts)
hospitals issue birth notifications
parents must bring the notification to the registrar in order to abtain a certificate.
Maybe before 1963 Hospitals did issue certificates. We will find out. Be patient.
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_Di2K23FuUDY/Sl3QvrSglfI/AAAAAAAAAOk/A8ze3VlZBS0/s400/P1010710.jpg
as you can read form the blog it’s Kenyan
http://movedbycompassion.blogspot.com/2009/07/few-weeks-of-firsts.html
I'm done with you. I am not going to respond to any that you ever post in the future, on any website.
I don't care what you find “online”. You might want to get out in the “field” and find real evidence and documents.
For the last time I am now sure that you Kim have NEVER IN YOUR LONG PATHETIC LIFE been to any African country and your investigative techniques remind me of a class I took in University. The class dealt with the pros and cons of written language verse languages that you have (or had) no written form. This can also go Indo-European vs many African languages such as KiKongo (old form).
One of the problems with written languages is that once something is published in a book, a periodical or nowadays “ONLINE” it becomes sort of a fact and others then cite it as a references. Online information is the WORST, the absolute worst.
Get off you old ass and do some real investigative reporting. I'm done with your “online” findings. You're pathetic and I hope for your sake that you have a wife/husband or maybe some children or maybe just a few friends in life otherwise you've wasted your entire life and all just for nothing. You are a terrible investigator.
Now you are claiming that you are “self employed” when just a few months ago you claimed that you are “one or two chief administrators” at the company that you work for
All I really know about you Kim aka Mik (him or her) is that you live in San Fransisco, California and that you don't have a clue.
Don't write to me anymore and please do not post to me at FreeRepublic anymore. Go to the rest of the world with your great “online findings” and you online “forgeries”.
Good riddance.
Respectfully,
Lucas Daniel Smith
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