Posted on 04/11/2010 3:02:29 PM PDT by InspectorSmith
"If America was living in a situation where they feared ethnicity and did not see itself as a multiparty state or nation, how could a young man born here in Kenya, who is not even a native American, become the President of America? It is because they did away with exclusion. What has killed us here is exclusion; that once Mr. Orengo is President, I know of no other place than Ugenya. That is why we were fighting against these many Presidencies in the past. I hope that Kenya will come of age. This country must come of age. People want freedom and nations want liberation, but countries want independence."
(Excerpt) Read more at bunge.go.ke ...
Giving credit appears to be almost exclusively a Freeper courtesy...something WND for example has yet to learn.
Hi,
I don’t believe it is necessary for me to demonstrate further it’s a hoax, others, more trusted than myself, are doing this.
It took me approx 3 minutes to find out. As I said, I have nothing against birthers who demand and seek. I have a different posistion toward those who “need”. This climate of “needing” a kenyan BC or other proof of foreigness is what creates the favorable conditions for pranks and hoaxes. There are actually people out there who are having great fun at fooling others - Lucas. I would feel far more insulted by someone supporting me and pulling me a hoax than by someone else who simply but correctly opposes my beliefs. Myself I have been tempted by this when I posted an edited copy of Lucas’ fake certificate and I am not at all proud of having done so.
Also, Etraveler, I belong to that geographic, ethnic, age group that “should” make of me a birther. For many reasons I am not. Among these reasons is the COLB which I consider to be valid and authentic.
Fred, that protocol — the courtesy ping — disappeared long ago on these threads. Witness the cross-talk, in all of these threads, about so-called “Obots” by so-called “birthers” — with no pings to the posters in mention.
Well Mik, we disagree. I do respect your investigations, and do read all the links I come by, that you provide. I think I give you and all others views fair coverage, and the conclusions I arrive at are my own. In the end, at this point we are all going on conjecture, as nothing from Obama is known, as he has sealed it all. Nothing is vetted, from Obama to any BC out there, as the court system has prevented it. BUT, little by little, the COUNTRY and its people are investigating and finding things not sealed, avenues not explored, that are putting the puzzle together. It is a mistake to think that those that doubt Obama will go away, and I think we all agree that it is wrong for a person whos platform was expounded as “Transparent”, is so exactly the opposite. Eventually we will find out, or he will disappear from public view. During that time however, we as a nation will have to endure and survive the damage he is inflicting on us all. When he is gone, we will begin the process of reversing what he has done. Sadly, the damage may not be fixable. Untold numbers of lives will be affected, perhaps never to be made whole again. Time will tell.
Kenyan Parliament website scrubs November 2008 Minutes which confirm Obama as âson of this soilâ�
Mik;
You made a statement that BP2 said this, I checked and found what you found. I posted what BP2 said, and even pinged him to verify, to date, he has not stated that he started this, and infact, I have not found WHO started this. More importantly, nobody including the principles included, have said it was not true. Far more than a few people/organizations ran this story. Clearly BP2, as posted by me, questioned the story, and as such, stated that anybody could do this. But certainly, he did not say that HE did. Am I wrong? Can you show us all where he stated that he did this? If not, then you are putting words in other peoples mouths, which makes you...what??? A liar??
I don’t want to believe this is true. I do hope you can prove your statement. And yes, it is necessary for you to back up your statements, prove that is is a lie, from the perspective of the principles, or admit it was ONLY your opinion. There...I gave you an honorable out...just state it was your opinion, based on a misinterpretation of what your read, and I posted again. Unless, you have something else from BP2 that you will post in response....
I am waiting for your reply...
Etraveler,
he called it his shot at fiction or something similar. Others have replied you here confirming my view and you are not calling them liars. I don’t really feel like undertaking a long investigation about this, I’m not passionate about this. So if you believe you should call me a liar for what I have said about this story, go ahead. I will consider it your personal opinion.
Get it quick if you don’t already have it!!!
http://www.bunge.go.ke/parliament/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=91&Itemid=84
Filename: Weekly Plenary Hansard 25.03.10 (334 kB)
You KNOW it’ll be scrubbed soon if you don’t have a copy, you won’t get one when they realize we found this!
To save time, I read the replies to my post. If they comment and do not reply to me, I have no way of knowing without reading everything. If someone can confirm this, I am as happy as you about it. I will read the other posts now, I have read almost all of them anyway except for the past several hours.
I was specifically looking for a spot where he said he wrote them. I found none. I have ready many, many post by BP2, so am surprised that he has not responded, but these post do not state that he wrote them.
Mik;
This is not my opinion. I posted what he said. Based on what he said, he did not admit to anything. One person, Fred Nerks appears to agree with me. The other thinks that circumstantially it was done by BP2. I disagree, but am willing to be wrong if BP2 owns up to it. So far, he has not, so, according to the evidence provided, he appears not to have done it. I have asked you to prove where he said he did, and you have not, up to the level of this response in the thread.
Someone I freepmailed about it considers that he (the person who supposedly wrote he wasn’t a birther) just focuses on the known evidence, that’s it. Legal mind and all that.
Fwiw.
I never said BP2 admitted to posting the info on Citizen Wells. I was merely pointing out his bizarre statements in two posts -- to the effect that he doesn't follow birtherism -- on two post at FR in the same time frame as the Foxx incident. Why did he try to distance himself from the eligibility issue at that time, I wonder?
I see your point. I am not sure.
To me it’s a minor issue. As you know I am after Smith. I think it’s a hoax and, honsetly, I am too lazy, too busy and not curious enough to do the search. Think what you wish and stay well. Sincerely.
--If America was living in a situation where they feared ethnicity and did not see itself as a multiparty state or nation, how could a young man born here in Kenya, who is not even a native American, become the President of America?--
Interesting, thanks for the ping.
Here is a functioning link for the Kenyan Parliament minutes:
http://www.bunge.go.ke/parliament/index.php?option=com_docman&task=doc_download&gid=24&Itemid=
before Lucas starts a new thread about his new videos posted on his site and claiming them to have been shot in Kenya on Feb 19th 2009 here is what I have to say:
The first of the 3 new videos is sufficient to debunk him. You will find them here
http://www.youtube.com/user/InspectorSmith
this item which can be seen in the video
http://img.auctiva.com/imgdata/0/8/1/6/1/3/webimg/335408317_tp.jpg
was bought on Ebay on Jan 2010
by a user named
preferred_customer_206( 32 )
here is the history of the user’s feedbacks
among the items sold and bought
Going Rogue by Sarah Palin (2009 Hardcover) NEW (#140379620894) - sold
VINTAGE PASSPORT U S OF A MILITARY1951 + LOTS OF MISC (#130360405375) - sold
KENYA COLONY & PROTECTORATE COLONIAL REPORT 1937 AFRICA (#380198620030) bought
ZANZIBAR 1957 & 1958. COLONIAL OFFICE REPORT, H.M.S.O. (#380195234395) bought
So,
this “kenyan” video, which Lucas claims he shot in Feb 2009 in Mombasa, was produced after Jan 2010 (in Santo Domingo)
Remember Charles Edward Lincoln accusing Lucas of obtainig free copies of Going Rogue to sell them on E-bay ?
Thank you for the ping.
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