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To: etraveler13

Hi,

I don’t believe it is necessary for me to demonstrate further it’s a hoax, others, more trusted than myself, are doing this.
It took me approx 3 minutes to find out. As I said, I have nothing against birthers who demand and seek. I have a different posistion toward those who “need”. This climate of “needing” a kenyan BC or other proof of foreigness is what creates the favorable conditions for pranks and hoaxes. There are actually people out there who are having great fun at fooling others - Lucas. I would feel far more insulted by someone supporting me and pulling me a hoax than by someone else who simply but correctly opposes my beliefs. Myself I have been tempted by this when I posted an edited copy of Lucas’ fake certificate and I am not at all proud of having done so.
Also, Etraveler, I belong to that geographic, ethnic, age group that “should” make of me a birther. For many reasons I am not. Among these reasons is the COLB which I consider to be valid and authentic.


562 posted on 04/14/2010 11:31:47 PM PDT by Mik Taerg
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To: Mik Taerg

Well Mik, we disagree. I do respect your investigations, and do read all the links I come by, that you provide. I think I give you and all others views fair coverage, and the conclusions I arrive at are my own. In the end, at this point we are all going on conjecture, as nothing from Obama is known, as he has sealed it all. Nothing is vetted, from Obama to any BC out there, as the court system has prevented it. BUT, little by little, the COUNTRY and its people are investigating and finding things not sealed, avenues not explored, that are putting the puzzle together. It is a mistake to think that those that doubt Obama will go away, and I think we all agree that it is wrong for a person whos platform was expounded as “Transparent”, is so exactly the opposite. Eventually we will find out, or he will disappear from public view. During that time however, we as a nation will have to endure and survive the damage he is inflicting on us all. When he is gone, we will begin the process of reversing what he has done. Sadly, the damage may not be fixable. Untold numbers of lives will be affected, perhaps never to be made whole again. Time will tell.


564 posted on 04/15/2010 11:23:58 AM PDT by etraveler13
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To: Mik Taerg; BP2

Mik;
You made a statement that BP2 said this, I checked and found what you found. I posted what BP2 said, and even pinged him to verify, to date, he has not stated that he started this, and infact, I have not found WHO started this. More importantly, nobody including the principles included, have said it was not true. Far more than a few people/organizations ran this story. Clearly BP2, as posted by me, questioned the story, and as such, stated that anybody could do this. But certainly, he did not say that HE did. Am I wrong? Can you show us all where he stated that he did this? If not, then you are putting words in other peoples mouths, which makes you...what??? A liar??
I don’t want to believe this is true. I do hope you can prove your statement. And yes, it is necessary for you to back up your statements, prove that is is a lie, from the perspective of the principles, or admit it was ONLY your opinion. There...I gave you an honorable out...just state it was your opinion, based on a misinterpretation of what your read, and I posted again. Unless, you have something else from BP2 that you will post in response....

I am waiting for your reply...


566 posted on 04/15/2010 4:43:41 PM PDT by etraveler13
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