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Is there anyway that Sarah Palin isn't the Republican nominee in 2012? (From a Leftist Blogger)
Open Left ^ | Wednesday April 7, 2010 | Chris Bowers

Posted on 04/07/2010 5:38:19 PM PDT by Bigtigermike

If Sarah Palin runs for President, then she will win the Republican nomination. The rally she is holding today with Michelle Bachmann is amazing, and Obama-like, in it's size:

More than 10,000 Republican faithful are expected to crowd into the Minneapolis Convention Center on Wednesday when Sarah Palin joins Rep. Michele Bachmann at a fundraiser and rally for Bachmann's re-election bid and the Minnesota state Republican Party.

Anyone who can draw 10,000 people to a rally in Minnesota--in early 2010, no less-- is formidable. In the specific case of Sarah Palin, it makes her virtually unstoppable.

National polling for the Republican nomination has consistently shown Palin in a roughly three-way tie with Mitt Romney and Mike Huckabee. However:

1. Huckabee is unlikely to run, and his evangelical / born again base (virtually all Huckabee voters in 2008 were evangelicals) is a lot closer to Sarah Palin than they are to Mitt Romney. So, Palin will likely start ahead in national polls among declared candidates.

2. Romney's strength in 2008 was in caucuses, which are dominated by dedicated activists. Of the 11 states that Romney won in 2008, three were "home" states (MA, where he was Governor; MI where his father was Governor; and UT for religion), and the other eight were all caucuses. However, Romney isn't going to win many caucuses if he is facing a candidate who can draw 10,000 people to a rally in early 2010, not to mention what is likely a tarnished reputation among Republican activists after the health care fight.

3. Palin's grassroots strength will provide her with all the funding she needs, and also goes a long way to pre-empting any possible insurgent candidacy against her. This will especially be the case if Ron Paul runs again, since Paul can't win the nomination but would soak up pretty much all of the remaining grassroots energy on the Republican side.

4. Say what you will about Palin's ability as a campaigner, but if gaffes were going to make her unpopular among Republicans, it would have happened already.

If Sarah Palin runs for President in 2012, I have a difficult time imagining someone else winning the Republican nomination. While this is pretty good news for Democrats, as Palin polls worse against Obama than almost any other Republican (see also PPP polling), it is also pretty scary. A continually weak economy--which is very possible--could actually make her President less than three years from now.


TOPICS: Government; Politics
KEYWORDS: bachmann; bho44; democrats; drillbabydrill; elections; gop; michelebachmann; obamapalin; palin; palin2012; palinrocks; runsarahrun; sarahpalin; socialism
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To: Arguendo; Jim Robinson

Yes you have shown no interest in my substantive posts to you.

Looking at your posting history I see that you are a pro-Romney, rabidly antiPalin troll.

As a retread troll, you need to tell us what name you posted under for the first half decade that you were here.

As a romneybot, you have changed your name at some point after the 2008 primaries ended, you are concealing a five year posting history from us.


181 posted on 04/08/2010 8:19:11 AM PDT by ansel12 ( Why are the non "social conservative" Republicans so unconservative?)
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To: wtc911

She’s talks in an “aw shucks” sort of way and she represents “Joe six pack Americans.” What more could you want?


182 posted on 04/08/2010 8:22:21 AM PDT by Arguendo
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To: wtc911

“The question was/is, what exactly is there in her CV that would convince anybody that she can handle the toughest job on the planet...be specific about what she has actually done not what you “expect” her to do.”

You’re pretty thick, aren’t you?

Tell me what was in Reagan’s CV. Or Truman’s. Or FDR’s for that matter. There is no formal training to be President. Often those who end up in that office have to grow into it (or not, as is apparently the case with 0).

Sarah Palin will do just fine, it’s obvious if you actually listen to her and assess her as a person. I actually trust her, which is something I can’t say about a single other politician that comes to mind. I value her honesty, integrity and moral compass far more than any superficial “qualification” you could name.

Sarah is exactly what the country needs to recover from the current travesty of a government. She is almost literally the anti-0.


183 posted on 04/08/2010 8:23:20 AM PDT by PreciousLiberty (In theory, theory and practice are the same. In practice, they're not.)
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To: ansel12

I’m hardly pro-Romney. He may (or may not—as I said I certainly haven’t settled on a candidate) be the best option right now, but I’d love to find a more conservative or more charismatic alternative to him.


184 posted on 04/08/2010 8:23:44 AM PDT by Arguendo
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To: ansel12

Incidentally, my favorite presidential hope for years was Mark Sanford, until he spectacularly self-destructed last summer. My support for Romney was only as the better (and only realistic) alternative to McCain.


185 posted on 04/08/2010 8:27:05 AM PDT by Arguendo
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To: PreciousLiberty
Odd you should try to link two freepers with no history of communication. But I guess it serves your purpose.

btw....still waiting for you to actually answer the question. Every time I ask it the freeper who is asked does one of three things...

1. Give a "because I believe it, it's self-evident, I won't dignify it" reply (your first choice).

2. Reply with insults and/or dismissives (your current choice).

3. Ignore the question completely.

186 posted on 04/08/2010 8:27:49 AM PDT by wtc911 ("How you gonna get down that hill?")
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To: Arguendo
I’m hardly pro-Romney.

Your posting history as a retread troll says differently, you are definitely pro-Romney and rabidly anti-Palin.

You stated a new account here and assumed a second name shorty after the 2008 primaries ended, we need to be able to see the first five years of who you are, and your posts during 2006 and 2007, and 2008.

Tell us what name your other account is under.

187 posted on 04/08/2010 8:28:14 AM PDT by ansel12 ( Why are the non "social conservative" Republicans so unconservative?)
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To: Arguendo
My support for Romney was only as the better (and only realistic) alternative to McCain.

That is ridiculous, you opened a new account well after the Republican primary was over and you are a pro-Romney, anti-Palin poster since then.

You keep referencing your other freerepublic account and using it as evidence but we can't see that five year account because you are concealing it from us.

What was your freeper name before Romney dropped out of the race?

188 posted on 04/08/2010 8:32:50 AM PDT by ansel12 ( Why are the non "social conservative" Republicans so unconservative?)
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To: wtc911

“Odd you should try to link two freepers with no history of communication. But I guess it serves your purpose.”

I “linked” the two of you since you two seem to be the only ones using derogatory terms for Palin supporters. Comprende?

“btw....still waiting for you to actually answer the question.”

As I said, you’re pretty thick. Reread my posts a few times, perhaps it’ll sink in. I hope something penetrates past your comprehension problems.

Sarah Palin will do fine with or without your support, however. :-)


189 posted on 04/08/2010 8:33:53 AM PDT by PreciousLiberty (In theory, theory and practice are the same. In practice, they're not.)
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To: ansel12

I was desperately hoping Mark Sanford (or another fiscally smart and conservative governor) would emerge as an alternative to Romney, so no, I was hardly pro-Romney.

Once it became obvious the nominee would be either Romney or McCain, I joined most conservatives in supporting Romney.

My previous screen name was Young Scholar, which I disposed of because I couldn’t even have a discussion without numerous old people (probably retirees with nothing better to do than post non-stop all day) dismissing anything I said because I was under 40. The evidence from that supports my claim that I wasn’t a Romney supporter until it was clear he was (unfortunately) the most conservative candidate with a chance of winning.


190 posted on 04/08/2010 8:35:46 AM PDT by Arguendo
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To: wtc911
Just read your question.

I'll have a go at it, if you'll first answer what other potential candidate (if any) can show themselves qualified and prepared to deal with all (or any) of those things.

Frankly, until you answer that, it's not a question to take seriously.

I will await your (or any) candidates resume in dealing with all of those things.

191 posted on 04/08/2010 8:36:19 AM PDT by Lakeshark (Thank a member of the US armed forces for their sacrifice)
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To: wtc911

“btw....still waiting for you to actually answer the question.”

Actually I’ll try one last time. Read what Sarah has to say about her platform. She’s made it quite clear how she’d govern, and it sounds like a good plan to me. Downright American, in fact.

Palin ‘12!


192 posted on 04/08/2010 8:36:54 AM PDT by PreciousLiberty (In theory, theory and practice are the same. In practice, they're not.)
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To: PreciousLiberty
Trying to justify palin's ultra slim CV by comparing it to Reagan's, FDR's and HST's is a bit absurd. (btw...HST had already been POTUS for three years at the time of his election...but you knew that, right?)

One thing that is prominent on Palin's resume that is sorely lacking on the others is that nettling little fact that she quit her elected position as governor.

I searched far and wide....can't find them quitting on anything.

Your statement that.."Sarah Palin will do just fine, it’s obvious if you actually listen to her and assess her as a person..." falls right into what I call category one...her qualifications are self-evident.

Your statement..."You're pretty thick..." falls right into category two...insult and belittle.

So far you're two out of three...try not to be so predictable.

193 posted on 04/08/2010 8:42:40 AM PDT by wtc911 ("How you gonna get down that hill?")
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To: PreciousLiberty
Read what Sarah has to say about her platform.

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Statements of future plans are not the same as actual history of actions and accomplishments, commonly called a CV.

Have you ever hired anyone for a responsible position? You do so based on that which he has done not on that which he says he will do.

194 posted on 04/08/2010 8:44:53 AM PDT by wtc911 ("How you gonna get down that hill?")
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To: Bigtigermike

Yes.
Sarah Palin gets lots of press for some of the same reasons Obama did - He’s a black, she’s a woman. This makes them “exotic” in the presidential arena.
Personally, I don’t think she will get the nomination, which makes me kinda sad. I’d like Sarah Palin for president. Unfortunately, I think we’ll get another media-selected RINO like McCain. Maybe Romney.


195 posted on 04/08/2010 8:44:54 AM PDT by Little Ray (The Gods of the Copybook Headings with terror and slaughter return!)
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To: Arguendo
I was desperately hoping Mark Sanford (or another fiscally smart and conservative governor) would emerge as an alternative to Romney, so no, I was hardly pro-Romney. Once it became obvious the nominee would be either Romney or McCain, I joined most conservatives in supporting Romney.

That is a lie, I keep posting to you and you keep ignoring me. This latest account of yours doesn't even start until well after Romney dropped out of the 2008 primary, so Romney was gone, yet you have a posting history (in this account that you are using on this thread) of being hostilely for Mitt Romney and aggressively anti-Palin.

I don't know how many accounts that you have, but your "young scholar" account only covers about a three year period, I know that you have other accounts out there, admit it.

196 posted on 04/08/2010 8:49:04 AM PDT by ansel12 ( Why are the non "social conservative" Republicans so unconservative?)
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To: PreciousLiberty
I “linked” the two of you since you two seem to be the only ones using derogatory terms for Palin supporters.

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Palinite is derogatory? Really, how? You do know of course that the suffix 'ite' does nothing more than identify a follower of or admirer of the word to which it is appended...

How is calling someone a follower or admirerer of Palin derogatory? I don't think it is, I guess that's one more thing about which we disagree.

197 posted on 04/08/2010 8:51:32 AM PDT by wtc911 ("How you gonna get down that hill?")
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To: wtc911

“Statements of future plans are not the same as actual history of actions and accomplishments, commonly called a CV.”

I’ve already covered this sufficiently. As I said, reread my posts until they sink in.

“Have you ever hired anyone for a responsible position? You do so based on that which he has done not on that which he says he will do.”

Sure. And as I already said, no one has a “CV” that shows beyond any doubt they’re prepared for the Presidency.

The bottom line is the voters will decide in a couple more years. We’ll see which way the fur flies at that point.

Until then, we’ll just have to agree to disagree. ;-)

Palin ‘12!


198 posted on 04/08/2010 8:54:04 AM PDT by PreciousLiberty (In theory, theory and practice are the same. In practice, they're not.)
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To: wtc911
Are you going to answer post 191?

Or is your silence an admission you can't?

199 posted on 04/08/2010 8:56:06 AM PDT by Lakeshark (Thank a member of the US armed forces for their sacrifice)
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To: ansel12

Nope, sorry. Not everyone who posts here joined in 1998. What was your previous account, BTW?


200 posted on 04/08/2010 8:56:28 AM PDT by Arguendo
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