Posted on 03/27/2010 9:58:15 AM PDT by Travis McGee
What would the new gun be used for?
The wife shoots too and I’m teaching two of the daughters (the third is a bit too flighty).
I’ve got two P89s and one PC9. The P89s are big, ugly, loud and indestructable. with the hi-caps that’s thirty rds before reloading. The PC9 is cute.
Just don’t leave a round chambered in a Tokarev. If you drop it on the hammer, it’s going to go bang. And don’t even think about that “half-cock” position.
Yeah, me too. But you might get unexpected “drop ins” due to areas becoming unliveable.
It might never have been said, but it was still true.
Arm ONLY the neighbors that have the stones to USE the damn thing..
Exactly.
Otherwise, all you are doing is putting yet another gun in the hands of the bad guys!
Good deal. I think training willing non-shooters is a sacred obligation.
There are only two PC9s on gunbroker at this point. One for $325, the other at $650. Six months ago you couldn’t find one for twice that. I’m tempted to pick them up as an investment.
BTTT
Got my .223 saiga for less than $350 NIB off gunbroker. I’m loving it but I’m stuck with the ten rd mags because I’m in NYS. The thirty rd mags are easier to find and in some cases cheaper.
Russkins weren’t big on safeties, were they?
Excellent essay Matt, thanks for sharing.
Here’s a youtube clip I did, on 2A:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qn5E_TnEerA&feature=player_embedded
While today you have to consider the legal consequences of arming another person, specially in Argentina where only people with gun permits can handle guns and you are legally responsible for what gets done with your weapon, the ability to arm others shouldn’t be underestimated.
I once mentioned that I gave my brother a 38 Special snub nose revolver just a couple hours after he landed in Argentina.
My brother doesn’t know how to perform a tactical reload, he doesn’t know what SUL means or the best way to resolve corners, but I trust him enough not to shoot anything that doesn’t need to be shot. That’s enough in most cases where you end up arming others.
If the situation is bad enough, there no help coming. You have to ask yourself, how long can I stay alert before falling asleep, how long can I stand guard? With some basic instruction you can have a few people doing shifts after some basic instructions, mostly about gun safety handling and when NOT to shoot. Later on if the situation goes on you can teach them more but none of this would even be possible if you don’t have the minimum tools. That is, a few extra guns, ammo and holsters.
I have a couple extra 38 special revolvers for this reason. Also a couple more Hi Power 9mms and 45 ACP pistols. I have 5 or 6 extra police surplus leather flap holsters. These come with the cross chest sling needed to carry it. You can simply tote it like that. A belt would add extra stability but you can do without it, and the holster itself has an extra magazine pouch. Space for two mags for the 45 ACP. Not the latest tactical piece of gear, not even the best or the most practical, but its perfect for a grunt newbie and it cost less than 3 dollars each.
As of right now, there are some towns and districts in Argentina were the neighbors themselves run patrols and stand guard at night, armed. Legal? No it isn’t but it’s the unwritten agreement they made with authorities that simply can’t protect the people. Saw it on the news a couple days ago.
Chile is another good example. People organized and look after each other. There was a man that explained the problem he had, not having anyone nearby to stand guard when he fell asleep.
The chances of this happening may not seem that big, but it does happen and there’s many scenarios where you may need armed neighbors. Recent, real world scenarios.
These are things that can be taken into account when adding more weapons to your collection.
FerFAL
I shot a buddy’s PC9 a few weeks ago, it seemed to be a decent carbine. I’d get one.
They are damned hard to find. I’d grab one now if you have the chance.
I’m coming to your place! Look for the 1970 Winnebago with the crap loaded on top, hauling a trailer.
Thanks for your great addition to this thread, based on “been there, done that!”
Matt, great advice about arming neighbors. All of mine are armed, even the Democrats. Oregon is a very gun friendly state.
I finished reading Foreign Enemies and Traitors; superb read, like your first two books. That is an excellent trilogy!
I’m going to read them all again; they are that good!!
Be sure and let us know when your next creation is available.
I think people should also consider the CZ-82 which fires 9X18 Makarov rounds and is normally good to go as soon as you buy it. Rounds are easily available on line for $0.20 each and they can be bought for around $250.00. They are nowhere near as powerful but they are more easily taken down and used by less experienced shooters. I prefer the CZ-52 for pure fun but I've carried the 82 and would never carry the 52.
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