Muslims Exempt From Obamacare

Liberty and Pride ^ | March 26, 2010 | Conservative American

[csd]

The new Obamacare legislation that was forced on unwilling Americans this week specifically mandates that we all purchase health insurance. That is, unless you don't believe in that sort of thing. That's right, the current health care bill contains a clause which exempts certain individuals form the requirements and penalties set forth in it.

" EXEMPTIONS FROM INDIVIDUAL RESPONSIBILITY REQUIREMENTS.

—In the case of an individual who is seeking an exemption certificate under section 1311(d)(4)(H) from any requirement or penalty imposed by section 5000A, the following information:

In the case of an individual seeking exemption based on the individual’s status as a member of an exempt religious sect or division, as a member of a health care sharing ministry, as an Indian, or as an individual eligible for a hardship exemption, such information as the Secretary shall prescribe."

Senate Bill, H.R. 3590, pages 273-274

[IronJack]

Suddenly I feel the urge to start my own sect of Islam: the Lunni's. We'd meet in a converted tavern that hadn't been converted, and we'd study the perversions of infidels, such as erotic dancing, loud music, and an overabundance of good food ... all in the name of the Profit ... er, I mean ... Prophet. Women would be encouraged to attend, wearing our version of the burkha, which used to be called the "miniskirt." And we'd pore over the Koran, especially when doing Number Two in the bathroom, which would double that noble book's usefulness.

'Scuse me. Time for Happy Hour. Er ... I mean ... prayers.

[TruthConquers]

There are three Christian Ministry’s that, I believe, are also exempt.

http://www.samaritanministries.org/

http://medi-share.org/

http://www.chministries.org/

They share the costs for health care for their members.

[GraceG]

What about Christian Scientists?

[Red Boots]

health care sharing ministry ? Is that the mailing I get every so often, I think it's called medishare: it's for Christians, one pays a small premium ( like $200/month) and shares expenses, and prayers for those who need it ? I think it includes a high deductible insurance policy.

This could be a significant out.

[IronJack]

In all seriousness, we should absolutely inundate the Gestapo with exemption requests. And then appeal them. And appeal the appeals. Tie this claptrap up in red tape until it strangles itself in the crib.

[historyrepeatz]

Bingo!

[Diogenesis]

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[FReepaholic]

I was curious as to what a "health care sharing ministry" is so I Googled. Found this at http://www.healthcaresharing.org/

What is a health care sharing ministry?

A health care sharing ministry (HCSM) provides a health care cost sharing arrangement among persons of similar and sincerely held beliefs. HCSMs are not-for-profit religious organization acting as a clearinghouse for those who have medical expenses and those who desire to share the burden of those medical expenses. These organizations are known as health care sharing ministries (HCSM).

• HCSMs receive no funding or grants from government sources.
• HCSMs are not insurance companies. HCSM do not assume any risk or guarantee the payment of any medical bill. Ten states have explicitly recognized this and specifically exempt HCSMs from their insurance codes.1
• HCSMs serve more than 100,000 members, with members in all fifty states.
• HCSMs’ members share more than $60 million per year for one another’s health care costs.
• HCSMs strive to be accessible to members regardless of their income, because traditionally shares are a fraction of the cost of insurance rates.

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  Interesting. I'll have to look at this further.

[Frantzie]

This is just like the tax Islamic countries have on non-Muslims. I forget the name. This is insane and violates equal protection.

Why isn’t Drudge or others talking about this?

[antiRepublicrat]

but muslims believe that insurance of any type is “haraam” (forbidden) because it is what they view as gambling.

Correction: They "believe" it when it suits them. BTW, for mandatory car insurance the verdict is that it's haraam, but there's no sin on the individual because the state is forcing it (even though they could choose not to have a car and avoid it, but they get a sort of hardship exemption). Thus, this mandatory health insurance shouldn't be a problem.

[Theodore R.]

Yes, and the American people might believe that if they understood the ramifications of their limits of faith.

[rfp1234]

This is insane and violates equal protection. Why isn’t Drudge or others talking about this?

It'll be a great argument to make in the current State Attorney Generals' lawsuits.

[bergmeid]

You say the Shahad with a couple of muzzie witnesses and voila you’re a muzzie. Piece of cake.

[Theodore R.]

I wonder how many times “pro-life” voters across the fifty states have repeatedly voted for abortion candidates, both knowingly and unknowingly? I suspect it is a huge number. If so, that means very few Americans are truly “pro-life.” If pro-life views don’t keep them from voting for such liberal candidates, they are not really pro-life.

[afnamvet]

Are you participating in Rumspringa?

[csd]

Ahhh, very interesting. So are muslims allowed an exemption for mandatory car insurance?

[lonestar]

Okay, I am a Roman Catholic and abortion was, is, and forever will be against my faith.

Sorry, but too many Catholics voted for this bill. They negated your exemption. Pay up!

[mware]

I am pro life on both sides of the aisle, although I truly struggle with those who do harm to children.

[J Edgar]

Thanks for the info.
So any Muslim caught gambling in Las Vegas should automatically be compelled to buy health insurance?

[Chickensoup]

Amish use these and so do other christians.