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A-huntin' The Sources of Appalachian English
Backcountry Notes ^ | March 26, 2010 | Jay Henderson

Posted on 03/26/2010 7:00:19 AM PDT by jay1949

An order of the Virginia Colonial Council dated May 4, 1725, concerned an allegation that "divers Indians plundered the Quarters of Mr. John Taliaferro near the great mountains [i.e., the Blue Ridge] . . .[and carried off] some of the Guns belonging to and marked with the name of Spottsylvania County . . . ." The Council concluded: "It is ordered that it be referred to Colo. Harrison to make inquiry which of the Nottoway Indians or other Tributaries have been out ahunting about that time . . . ."

Now, the Colonial Council was an august body and its proceedings were formal, so we can be sure that "ahunting" was not common slang. It was, on the contrary, an accepted usage which is now obsolete except in Appalachia and the Ozarks, where folks still go "out a-huntin'."

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KEYWORDS: appalachia; appalachian; dialects; english; englishlanguage; language; linguistics; rural; seedofalbion; virginia; virginiahistory
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To: LatinaGOP

In Eastern Kentucky they eat Vi Enna sausages they get on sale at the IGA.


141 posted on 03/26/2010 12:11:22 PM PDT by wordsofearnest (Job 19:25 As for me, I know my Redeemer lives.)
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To: rustbucket

Ah, militiamen — a favorite subject. I have three ancestors who served in the militia during the Revolution. Without the militia, we’d have remained British subjects.

http://www.backcountrynotes.com/history/2008/6/1/backcountry-settlers-and-the-winning-of-the-american-revolut-1.html


142 posted on 03/26/2010 12:34:22 PM PDT by jay1949 (Work is the curse of the blogging class)
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To: Darnright

Thanks for the link to Shelby Adams — I hadn’t seen his work before. Nice to see someone working in b&w photography — in the right hands, a great medium.


143 posted on 03/26/2010 12:42:43 PM PDT by jay1949 (Work is the curse of the blogging class)
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To: Darnright; Mrs. Don-o

Beautiful. Breathtaking. ping the Missus to enjoy these wonderful images.


144 posted on 03/26/2010 12:51:11 PM PDT by don-o (My son, Ben - Marine Lance Corporal texted me at 0330 on 2/3/10: AMERICA!)
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To: stainlessbanner

The one word that absolutely stumped me was “dreckly”.
I was grown before I found out that wasn’t really a word, but rather a Southern form of “directly”.
Use: I’ll be home dreckly (i.e. soon or right away).


145 posted on 03/26/2010 12:55:22 PM PDT by SelmaLee
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To: jay1949

I don’t know much about my Scots/Irish side, but the other side of my family fought with the loyalists in the Revolution...They were wearing breachclouts and carrying tomahawks...I am part Ani-Yun-Wiya (Tsalagi) or Cherokee to white folks... :0)


146 posted on 03/26/2010 12:59:23 PM PDT by Boonie
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To: Southside_Chicago_Republican

I’ll confirm this story - we DO still talk like that down here :)


147 posted on 03/26/2010 1:00:40 PM PDT by SelmaLee
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To: Boonie

My wife is part Cherokee — one of her great-grandmothers.


148 posted on 03/26/2010 1:02:49 PM PDT by jay1949 (Work is the curse of the blogging class)
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To: jay1949

I have to go...Again, thanks so much for what you do, Jay....


149 posted on 03/26/2010 1:11:11 PM PDT by Boonie
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To: Markos33

Everybody gets the face they deserve.

I got mine fair and square.

On the upside, it keeps my hair from sliding off my head....:)

Salamander
[who’s not pushing 49...she’s charging at it hell-bent for leather with blades drawn]


150 posted on 03/26/2010 1:27:13 PM PDT by Salamander (....and I'm sure I need some rest but sleepin' don't come very easy in a straight white vest.......)
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To: SelmaLee
Use: I’ll be home dreckly (i.e. soon or right away).

When Granddaddy said we would be finished working "dureckly" I knew there was a LOT more work to be done before we quit.

151 posted on 03/26/2010 1:53:09 PM PDT by don-o (My son, Ben - Marine Lance Corporal texted me at 0330 on 2/3/10: AMERICA!)
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To: wardaddy

Actually, there are a few working oil(and gas) wells in the central and eastern part of Kentucky. We own some property near Burksville and there are several working wells nearby. I’m not sure if the area is actually considered part of the Smokies-but it’s mighty close!
(The 23 acres we own is for sale if anyone’s interested!)


152 posted on 03/26/2010 4:07:23 PM PDT by snuffy smiff (imagine if the GOP grew a brain-and threw all RINOs OUT! But that would also require a spine *sigh*)
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To: manc

The North West of England was subject to a lot of immigration from Ireland, especially after the 1840s when many poor, desperate Irish people flooded into Lancashire to escape the famine and look for work in the cotton mills. When I was doing some work for my history degree dissertation I found out that about 10% -15% of the population of Manchester was Irish-Born (not including those born in England but of Irish descent) and this figure was even higher for Liverpool, at 18%-20% (again, not including their children born in England).
I suspect the similarity in accents and pronunciation in the Northwest of England and the Appalachians etc stems from a common Irish cultural influence, rather than emigration from the North West of England into the Appalachians...


153 posted on 03/26/2010 4:24:49 PM PDT by sinsofsolarempirefan
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To: SelmaLee; All

Ever heard anyone use the word “kee-arn”? Turns out it’s how my dear Granny pronounced the word “carrion”. Took me many years to figure that one out.

This woman milked several cows by hand every day and churned buttermilk by hand every three days until she was too old to do it anymore. One Christmas all her kids went in together and bought her a milking machine and electric churn. She used them once and threw them away-she said they “spoiled” the cream in her milk!

She bore nine children-every one of them born at home-and all of them got there before the local doc did. She never saw the inside of a doctor’s office nor a hospital until she suffered a massive stroke at age 94.

Looking back what strikes me oddest of all was she was a staunch Republican. She literally hated democrats with a passion!(Guess I got it honest after all-LOL!)

She passed away in 1986 and I miss her terribly. As I posted earlier check out the Foxfire books if you ever get the chance. So many of the women in the first couple of editions sound just like her.


154 posted on 03/26/2010 4:36:11 PM PDT by snuffy smiff (imagine if the GOP grew a brain-and threw all RINOs OUT! But that would also require a spine *sigh*)
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To: sinsofsolarempirefan
I suspect the similarity in accents and pronunciation in the Northwest of England and the Appalachians etc stems from a common Irish cultural influence, rather than emigration from the North West of England into the Appalachians...

Sounds like a good assessment. There has been a lot more movement around, in, from, and through the British Isles than many realize. During the 19th century, many Scots went to Yorkshire and Lancashire in search of work. I don't know that they had much influence on the Yorkshire dialects, which are varied and largely incomprehensible, but they developed the Yorkshire Terrier from Scottish terrier breeds they brought with them.

155 posted on 03/26/2010 5:42:42 PM PDT by jay1949 (Work is the curse of the blogging class)
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To: snuffy smiff

Looking back what strikes me oddest of all was she was a staunch Republican.

Plenty of those in the mountains of western Virginia, northeast Tennessee, and west North Carolina. Some folks call them "Mountain Republicans."

156 posted on 03/26/2010 5:45:06 PM PDT by jay1949 (Work is the curse of the blogging class)
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To: snuffy smiff

there is some gas near Dale Hollow too but it ain’t known fer oil patch


157 posted on 03/26/2010 7:11:03 PM PDT by wardaddy (Greetings Comrade!)
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To: stainlessbanner

Having traveled a bit, I can tell you that there is no single Southron accent or dialect. Tennessee and Alabama are NOT the same accent by a long stretch, and NOLA and West Texas are miles apart literally and linguistically. However, I CAN tell you that there are three things that clearly indicate you’re still in the South (or at least in the presence of those from the homeland):

1) People don’t act like you are odd for asking where the “Coke,” instead of soda or pop machine, is when you want to get a carbonated beverage.
2) You can see kudzu.
3) When you order tea in a restaurant, a) they don’t EVER have to check to see if they have it made, and b) they ask if you want it sweet or not.

My mother-in-law uses this phrase “I’m not for sure about that.” Source of irritation for me, but common Texanism. Grandfather, who has a Georgia accent like most native Florida crackers, often sounds more like a Maine-iac with his ayuh’s than any coonass (I still think the NOLA accent sounds like the damnyankees settled in too long).


158 posted on 03/26/2010 8:55:19 PM PDT by LibertarianInExile (When Republicans don't vote conservative, conservatives don't vote Republican.)
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bfl


159 posted on 03/26/2010 9:26:06 PM PDT by shield (A wise man's heart is at his RIGHT hand;but a fool's heart at his LEFT. Ecc 10:2)
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To: Boonie

Good’nuf place to bump this here fun thread.


160 posted on 03/27/2010 2:11:32 AM PDT by Kevmo (So America gets what America deserves - the destruction of its Constitution. ~Leo Donofrio, 6/1/09)
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