Posted on 03/03/2010 2:11:25 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
The Hawaii Department of Health claims to have an original copy of Barack Obama's birth certificate, right?
In fact, it is this established "fact" that has persuaded so many people there is nothing to the question of eligibility.
After all, an official in Hawaii has made a public pronouncement that she has inspected the document and declared on her own authority that Obama is a "natural born American" and thus eligible to serve as president.
For many Americans, that settles the question.
However, now a new version of the story is emerging.
The United Kingdom's Sky News reported Saturday: "Authorities in Hawaii have provided an electronic record of Obama's birth because the paper copy was destroyed in a fire which wiped out much of the state's archives."
Which is it?
Does Hawaii actually have an original long-form, paper birth certificate for Obama, or was it destroyed in a fire?
It seems the story is ever-changing.
And that's why it's time for Obama to come clean.
There is little question the heavily Democratic state of Hawaii has no interest in providing any information that would disqualify the first president claiming to be from that state.
If indeed the state has a copy of the original birth certificate, as Director of Health Dr. Chiyome Fukino claims, it should be no problem for Obama to give her permission to release it publicly – and, once and for all, settle the controversy that has resulted in that state being inundated with inquiries from curious American citizens.
Fukino has released two public statements on this matter.(continued)
(Excerpt) Read more at wnd.com ...
My point is that the SN reporter introduces a completely new element to the issue, the supposed fire, with no “what” “where” “when” and most importantly, a complete lack of attribution, a lack of “who says so.”
If there was such a fire, or a report of such a fire, don't you think we would have heard about it before now?
That is a good point? When did this fire happen? Where did this fire happen? How many casualties? I want to see the proof of this fire, from the Fire Department and Department of Safety among others.
Maybe they were talking about his Kenyan birth certificate? It is probabled that was destroyed in a fire. Most likely by arson.
The press definitely covered for him. And left out key information.
Speaking of Sandy Berger:
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“Lanny Breuer”
http://www.whorunsgov.com/Profiles/Lanny_Breuer
Current Position: Assistant Attorney General for the Justice Department’s Criminal Division (since April 2009)
Boss: Deputy Attorney General David Ogden
The criminal division is charged with enforcing all federal laws, and it works hand-in-hand with the 93 U.S. attorneys around the country. It also develops enforcement policy and oversees the Witness Security Program.
Lanny Breuer has handled some other high-profile legal cases. He defended former Clinton National Security Adviser ‘Sandy Berger,’ who was accused of stealing classified documents from the National Archives and pleaded guilty to a misdemeanor related to that charge.
Washingtonian Magazine called Breuer’s defense of Berger “a case study in Washington lawyering.” Justice Department officials told the magazine that when lawyers request a light sentence for their clients, they sometimes say “I want a Berger.”
In 1999, Breuer returned to Covington & Burling as a partner to continue his work with the firm’s white-collar defense group.
He remained at the firm until after Barack Obama won the 2008 presidential election and tapped Breuer as assistant attorney general for the Justice Department’s Criminal Division.
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“Culture of corruption: Holder, terrorists, Covington & Burling”
http://michellemalkin.com/2009/11/18/culture-of-corruption-holder-terrorists-covington-burling/
Pure baloney --
Do you see the word "teaser" in there? Anyone with half a functioning brain cell wouldn't trust this story. It also contains points that are not backed up anywhere.
Obama didn't just fight this using private attorneys.
No! Obama **wasted** and **misused** U.S. attorneys and distracted them from their important job of going after the bad guys! He did this at a time when plots were being made to massacre our soldiers on their bases and recruitment centers and blow planes filled with civilians out of the sky!
UBELIEVABLE!
Remember that shave ice he had while on vacation in Hawaii? The cone was paper. . . . In honor of the Purloined Letter by Poe :-)
Stories about destroyed Hawaii state records get launched into the aether periodically.
CNN story that Hawaii destroyed records proved false
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This from the original story:
....Klein asked CNN researchers to dig into the question of why Obama couldn’t produce the original birth certificate.
The researchers contacted the Hawaii Health Dept. and confirmed that paper documents were discarded in 2001 when the department went paperless. That reportedly includes Pres. Obama’s original birth certificate.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2302403/posts?page=56#56
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CNN wrong once again – birth record not destroyed
Hawaii contradicts network boss’ claim that Obama certificate no longer exists
Directly contradicting CNN chief Jon Klein – who ordered host Lou Dobbs to quit discussing President Obama’s birth certificate – the Hawaii Department of Health affirmed that no paper birth certificates were destroyed when the department moved to electronic record-keeping.
“I am not aware of any birth certificate records that have been destroyed by the department,” Janice Okubo, public information officer for the Hawaii DOH, told WND. “When the department went electronic in 2001, vital records, whether in paper form or any other form, [were] maintained. We don’t destroy records.”
Okubo affirmed that beginning in 2001, all vital records, including birth records, moved to electronic formats.
“Any records that we had in paper or any other form before 2001 are still in file within the department,” she insisted. “We have not destroyed any vital statistics records that we have.”
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=105233
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2302403/posts
OBAMA HOUSE FIRE story came from this blogger. He has a SATIRE tag attached to the story and the story had never been confirmed by another source.
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Obama Birth Certificate Lost to Fire in 1972?
Collin Shepherd
August 7, 2009
Responding to Hawaiian health officials, who confirmed that the President’s ‘long-form’ birth certificate has not been released to the public, President Barack Obama stated this morning that it is impossible for the papers to be released at all.
Through a spokesperson working for the Administration, the President now claims that his original birth certificate was lost in a fire in 1972. At the time, Mr. Obama was living with his grandparents in Honolulu.
“There was a small house fire in which the document was lost,” the spokesperson said. “That is why the President has been unable to comply with requests to release it. While the President understands the concerns of citizens, he hopes that this will put the matter to rest.”
This statement comes at a time when many people, widely known as ‘birthers,’ are questioning the birthplace of our current President. Though the ‘short-form’ birth certificate of Mr. Obama has been released, it has not quelled beliefs that he was born out of the United States, which would make him ineligible to be President.
“In reality, the short-form birth certificate should be enough,” the spokesperson continued. “I mean, not even everyone knows where they have their original certificate. The President is no different.”
According to reports in local newspapers, however, a fire was never reported at the President’s residence in the entirety of 1972. “The fire was small. They never reported it because it didn’t endanger the house.”
It is yet to be seen if this new evidence will end questions over the President’s place of birth. The President could not be reached for comment.
http://jumpinginpools.blogspot.com/2009/08/obama-original-birth-certificate-lost.html
Kinda what I thought. . . .
Out of curiosity, I started googling to see what might be found about the alleged fire in the Hawaiian archives. One of the first listed articles was about finding a letter in those archives from Abraham Lincoln to the king of Hawaii, written on the day of the emancipation proclamation. I see some irony in that—or Google mis-direction? (Knowing how Google management actively “censors” articles about various topics.)
http://www.starbulletin.com/news/20090609_Letter_from_Lincoln_found_in_state_archives.html
When it’s not purposeful misdirection, it’s a case of throwing crap at the wall and seeing what sticks.
Yup. If it had burned, how could Okubo see it?
Good point. And by law in most states there are mandatory back ups. It does not wash. Unfortunately, it often works to destroy evidence, especially when law enforcement does not care.
Did you see post 110? :-)
In the first day of J school, you learn to ask “Who says so?”
Sign in the old UPI City Room in Chicago: “If your mother says she loves you, check it out!”
Has anyone seen the actual newspapers or are we basing this claim on microfiche records or something else?
Reagan's advice to 'trust, but verify' is good, but I haven't gotten to the 'trust' part yet. Doesn't look like I ever will if all obama and his obamatrons do is obfuscate, misdirect and outright lie. "Here there be dragons."
LOL!!!
They’s got more excuses than a pregnant nun.
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