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Being born in the United States does not even make one a 'NATIVE' citizen.
nobarack08 | Feb 12, 2010 | syc1959

Posted on 02/12/2010 12:35:44 PM PST by syc1959

Being born in the United States does not even make one a 'NATIVE' citizen.

Immigration and Citizenship: Process and Policy fourth edition Under Jus Soli, the following is written "The Supreme Court's first holding on the sublect suggested that the court would give a restrictive reading to the phrase, potentially disqualifing significant number of persons born within the physical boundries of the nation. In Elk v. Wilkins 112 U.S. 94, 5 S.CT. 41, 28 L.ED. 643 (1884), the court ruled that native Indians were not U.S. citizens, even if they later severed their ties with their tribes. The words "subject to the jurisdiction thereof," the court held, mean "not merely subjct in some respect or degree to the jurisdiction of the United States, but completely subject to their political jurisdiction, and owing them direct and immediate allegiange." Most Indians could not meet the test. "Indians born within the territorial limits of the United States, members of, and owing immediate allegiance to, one of the Indian Tribes, (an alien through dependent power,) although in a geographical sense born in the United States, are no more 'born in the United States and subject to the jurisdiction thereof,'*** then the children of subjects of any foreign government born within the domain of that government ***. Id. at 102. It continues that Congress eventually passed legislation with the 'Allotment Act of 1887, that conferred citizenship on many Indians.

The fact remains, the Court held, complete and sole Jurisdiction. As I have held that being born anywhere in the United States, jurisdiction is required, sole and complete, and Barack Hussein Obama was already claimed by British jurisdiction under the British Nationailty Act of 1948, and as such fails the United states Constitutional requirement of a Natural Born Citizen.

“When Barack Obama Jr. was born on Aug. 4,1961, in Honolulu, Kenya was a British colony, still part of the United Kingdom’s dwindling empire. As a Kenyan native, Barack Obama Sr. was a British subject whose citizenship status was governed by The British Nationality Act of 1948. That same act governed the status of Obama Sr.‘s children.

Barack Hussein Obama did not have sole jurisdiction under the United States.

Title 8 and the 14th Amendment clearlt state the following;

All persons born or naturalized in the United States and subject to the jurisdiction thereof

Note: 'subject to the jurisdiction thereof'


TOPICS: Government; Politics
KEYWORDS: barack; birthcertificate; birthers; certifigate; citizen; illegal; nativeborncitizen; naturalborn; naturalborncitizen; obama; undocumented
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To: lucysmom

“When Barack Obama Jr. was born on Aug. 4,1961, in Honolulu, Kenya was a British colony, still part of the United Kingdom’s dwindling empire. As a Kenyan native, Barack Obama Sr. was a British subject whose citizenship status was governed by The British Nationality Act of 1948. That same act governed the status of Obama Sr.‘s children.

Since Sen. Obama has neither renounced his U.S. citizenship nor sworn an oath of allegiance to Kenya, his Kenyan citizenship automatically expired on Aug. 4,1982.”


461 posted on 02/13/2010 6:13:08 PM PST by syc1959
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To: EnderWiggins

You know common law is not the same thing as a law passed by Congress.

It doesn’t even come close, and yet you persist in this belief that the Supreme Court of the United States of America can write Common law that trumps the Constitution and The definition of a Natural Born Citizen not as written by Vattel but as written by the very first Congress of this country and Our Founding Fathers.


462 posted on 02/13/2010 6:16:38 PM PST by usmcobra (Your chances of dying in bed are reduced by getting out of it, but most people still die in bed)
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To: STE=Q
"following the Wiggler's "logic" is like watching the "energizer bunny" move in circles...

He just keeps going and going and... "

LOL! Agreed! Some people just don't know when it's time to lay down their arms and hoist the white flag.

It's kind of like watching the Black Knight fight King Arthur; painful to watch, but, oh, so hilarious:

Cheers

463 posted on 02/13/2010 6:18:00 PM PST by DoctorBulldog
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To: lucysmom
Insults and derision seem to be all that MHGinTN ever brings to the party.

My personal favorites of his posts are when someone makes a factual error and he denounces them for lying rather than having made an error or mistake.

464 posted on 02/13/2010 6:18:09 PM PST by El Sordo (The bigger the government, the smaller the citizen.)
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To: Red Steel
"Moreover, Obama has never publicly said he was born in Hawaii. He uses the choice words as “I grew up in Hawaii” or “I’m from Hawaii” and “I went to school in Hawaii”, but you have never heard him utter the words that he was born in Hawaii. Nope, he has not."

Well, the video was taken down by YouTube, But here's a blog post about it:

http://www.freedomslighthouse.com/2009/10/obama-asked-by-school-student-if-he-was.html

The quote? "I was born in Hawaii, that's true. Absolutely."
465 posted on 02/13/2010 6:23:00 PM PST by EnderWiggins
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To: usmcobra
"You know common law is not the same thing as a law passed by Congress."

Very good. Keep reading.
466 posted on 02/13/2010 6:24:20 PM PST by EnderWiggins
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To: MHGinTN
So you don’t use kneepads when you worship the affirmative action fraud-in-chief?

Until proven otherwise, Obama is a human being, and I don't worship human beings - however, you are free to do as you please.

467 posted on 02/13/2010 6:27:29 PM PST by lucysmom
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To: syc1959
“When Barack Obama Jr. was born on Aug. 4,1961, in Honolulu, Kenya was a British colony, still part of the United Kingdom’s dwindling empire. As a Kenyan native, Barack Obama Sr. was a British subject whose citizenship status was governed by The British Nationality Act of 1948. That same act governed the status of Obama Sr.‘s children.

So what?

468 posted on 02/13/2010 6:29:01 PM PST by lucysmom
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To: lucysmom

game set, and point. You loose.
Better get out that prayer rug and say your creed to ‘YOUR’ Demigod

I believe in Barack Obama, the bearer of Hope and Change

And in his rhetoric, and tales of woe

Who was born of the mother Stanley, in a place unknown

In the sixth year migrated to Indonesia

He ascended to the Senate, and unqualified, usurped the Presidency

Who suffered under Orly Taitz and was slurred by racist birthers

I believe in spreading the wealth

Of the taxes and levies therein,

the loss of freedom, that cost doesn’t matter

That healthcare is free

As long as I don’t have pay


469 posted on 02/13/2010 6:32:05 PM PST by syc1959
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To: El Sordo
Insults and derision seem to be all that MHGinTN ever brings to the party.

Perhaps that's all he has to offer.

470 posted on 02/13/2010 6:36:53 PM PST by lucysmom
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To: lucysmom; El Sordo

Muahahahahahahaha ... inside your nasty little obot heads are we? Bwahahahaha

Sp long as the mod protects you, what have you to fear from posters? Sissies


471 posted on 02/13/2010 6:39:38 PM PST by MHGinTN (Obots, believing they cannot be deceived, it is impossible to convince them when they are deceived.)
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To: syc1959

LOL...still at it eh?


472 posted on 02/13/2010 6:40:36 PM PST by Las Vegas Ron ("Because without America, there is no free world" - Canada Free Press - MSM where are you?)
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To: lucysmom

Better the Obot lies, deceit, and blatant ignorance.

Obama numbers are plummeting and even his own party is saying he’s become unbelievable.

In one year the ‘ONE’ has become the bowing laughing stock. liar.


473 posted on 02/13/2010 6:40:47 PM PST by syc1959
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To: EnderWiggins
Keep reading...

Why I have already proven my point.

You think like a liberal, you believe that the Supreme Court creates laws that are not written by the Congress or signed by the President but actually have more power than the Constitution itself.

Show me anywhere in the US constitution where it says that Common law overrides the Congress or the Constitution....

474 posted on 02/13/2010 6:42:07 PM PST by usmcobra (Your chances of dying in bed are reduced by getting out of it, but most people still die in bed)
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To: Las Vegas Ron

Kinda fun, watching loose one argument and then another.

Educating an Obot is a 12 step process.

First you have to get them to kick the ‘Kool-aide’ habit.


475 posted on 02/13/2010 6:42:43 PM PST by syc1959
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To: syc1959

That’s the Obot’s loosing one after another.


476 posted on 02/13/2010 6:43:37 PM PST by syc1959
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To: syc1959

“You Can Lead an Obot to Evidence but You Can’t Make Him Think,”


477 posted on 02/13/2010 6:44:04 PM PST by syc1959
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To: EnderWiggins
"I was born in Hawaii, that's true. Absolutely."

That's good then. Good that Obama is now on record. Less BS room for him if he's not. Gee, the vid is no long avialable? I wonder why?

478 posted on 02/13/2010 6:46:27 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: lucysmom

That is what I am inclined to think.


479 posted on 02/13/2010 6:50:49 PM PST by El Sordo (The bigger the government, the smaller the citizen.)
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To: syc1959
Educating an Obot is a 12 step process.

Yeah if you can keep from getting dizzy going around in circles :)

480 posted on 02/13/2010 6:51:02 PM PST by Las Vegas Ron ("Because without America, there is no free world" - Canada Free Press - MSM where are you?)
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