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Being born in the United States does not even make one a 'NATIVE' citizen.
nobarack08 | Feb 12, 2010 | syc1959

Posted on 02/12/2010 12:35:44 PM PST by syc1959

Being born in the United States does not even make one a 'NATIVE' citizen.

Immigration and Citizenship: Process and Policy fourth edition Under Jus Soli, the following is written "The Supreme Court's first holding on the sublect suggested that the court would give a restrictive reading to the phrase, potentially disqualifing significant number of persons born within the physical boundries of the nation. In Elk v. Wilkins 112 U.S. 94, 5 S.CT. 41, 28 L.ED. 643 (1884), the court ruled that native Indians were not U.S. citizens, even if they later severed their ties with their tribes. The words "subject to the jurisdiction thereof," the court held, mean "not merely subjct in some respect or degree to the jurisdiction of the United States, but completely subject to their political jurisdiction, and owing them direct and immediate allegiange." Most Indians could not meet the test. "Indians born within the territorial limits of the United States, members of, and owing immediate allegiance to, one of the Indian Tribes, (an alien through dependent power,) although in a geographical sense born in the United States, are no more 'born in the United States and subject to the jurisdiction thereof,'*** then the children of subjects of any foreign government born within the domain of that government ***. Id. at 102. It continues that Congress eventually passed legislation with the 'Allotment Act of 1887, that conferred citizenship on many Indians.

The fact remains, the Court held, complete and sole Jurisdiction. As I have held that being born anywhere in the United States, jurisdiction is required, sole and complete, and Barack Hussein Obama was already claimed by British jurisdiction under the British Nationailty Act of 1948, and as such fails the United states Constitutional requirement of a Natural Born Citizen.

“When Barack Obama Jr. was born on Aug. 4,1961, in Honolulu, Kenya was a British colony, still part of the United Kingdom’s dwindling empire. As a Kenyan native, Barack Obama Sr. was a British subject whose citizenship status was governed by The British Nationality Act of 1948. That same act governed the status of Obama Sr.‘s children.

Barack Hussein Obama did not have sole jurisdiction under the United States.

Title 8 and the 14th Amendment clearlt state the following;

All persons born or naturalized in the United States and subject to the jurisdiction thereof

Note: 'subject to the jurisdiction thereof'


TOPICS: Government; Politics
KEYWORDS: barack; birthcertificate; birthers; certifigate; citizen; illegal; nativeborncitizen; naturalborn; naturalborncitizen; obama; undocumented
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To: syc1959
Wrong, as per the United States Constitution, the President elect shall qualify. Barack Hussein Obama did not produce any evidence that he is Constitutionaly qualified to hold the office he was elected to. FACT!

Prove he didn't produce the evidence.

441 posted on 02/13/2010 5:44:55 PM PST by lucysmom
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To: mojitojoe
Only IF he was born in Hawaii. He wasn’t. It was a little north of the borders of the US. Sorry to burst your bubble.

If I had a bubble, just your say so wouldn't burst it.

I know less about you than I know about Obama.

442 posted on 02/13/2010 5:47:08 PM PST by lucysmom
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To: EnderWiggins

wiggie-tingles

Just to mage sure that you UNDERSTAND

http://nobarack08.wordpress.com/2009/12/24/no-christmas-for-obamaland/

Have a good cry


443 posted on 02/13/2010 5:48:18 PM PST by syc1959
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To: syc1959
And yours is neither common law nor Constitutional... so I would be content even if that were true.

But of course, it's not.
444 posted on 02/13/2010 5:49:09 PM PST by EnderWiggins
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To: lucysmom

I specifically addressed my reps and senators on this issue.
They did not see any documents or proof.

Thank you.


445 posted on 02/13/2010 5:49:18 PM PST by syc1959
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To: EnderWiggins

crying yet? wiggie


446 posted on 02/13/2010 5:50:03 PM PST by syc1959
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To: MHGinTN
Have you messiah kneepads yet?

Here I thought you were a civil human being rather than the crude person the above question proves you to be.

447 posted on 02/13/2010 5:51:44 PM PST by lucysmom
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To: syc1959

LOL... are you serious?

That post was so powerful and tear inducing that only one person even responded to it it two months, and that person was... you!

The elephant hath labored mightily, and delivered unto us.... a mouse.


448 posted on 02/13/2010 5:55:59 PM PST by EnderWiggins
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To: EnderWiggins

I don’t post comments.
There have been alot of Obot’s tears.


449 posted on 02/13/2010 5:57:04 PM PST by syc1959
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To: EnderWiggins

Is Common law written or unwritten?


450 posted on 02/13/2010 5:57:08 PM PST by usmcobra (Your chances of dying in bed are reduced by getting out of it, but most people still die in bed)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER
" If only he were declared president by default of Obama's ineligibility.

Then we could impeach him."

LOL - Yeah, that would be nice. Of course, I voted for Sarah Palin, figuring that McCain would either kick the bucket or get kicked out for being ineligible for POTUS! Hehehehehe (My eeeevil laugh).

8^)

Cheers

451 posted on 02/13/2010 5:58:43 PM PST by DoctorBulldog
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To: Danae
His British father prevents him from being a Natural Born citizen, because you can only ever have one citizenship, that of the USA in order to be so.

So, than if British citizenship couldn't be passed to a baby conceived and born on US soil and to a US citizen mother, what would Obama's citizenship status be?

452 posted on 02/13/2010 5:59:31 PM PST by lucysmom
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To: usmcobra

Go look it up.


453 posted on 02/13/2010 5:59:58 PM PST by EnderWiggins
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To: lucysmom

The problem with that is that the law that governed his father states;

British nationality by virtue of citizenship.

1.—(1) Every person who under this Act is a citizen of the United Kingdom and Colonies or who under any enactment for the time being in force in any country mentioned in subsection (3) of this section is a citizen of that country shall by virtue of that citizenship have the status of a British subject.

(2) Any person having the status aforesaid may be known either as a British subject or as a Commonwealth citizen; and accordingly in this Act and in any other enactment or instrument whatever, whether passed or made before or after the commencement of this Act, the expression “British subject” and the expression “Commonwealth citizen” shall have the same meaning.

(3) The following are the countries hereinbefore referred to, that is to say, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, the Union of South Africa, Newfoundland, India, Pakistan, Southern Rhodesia and Ceylon.

Citizenship by birth or descent.
4. Subject to the provisions of this section, every person born within the United Kingdom and Colonies after the commencement of this Act shall be a citizen of the United Kingdom and Colonies by birth:

5.—(1) Subject to the provisions of this section, a person born after the commencement of this Act shall be a citizen of the United Kingdom and Colonies by descent if his father is a citizen of the United Kingdom and Colonies at the time of the birth:

There is go getting around that Barack Hussein Obama is a British subject, a foreigner to the United States.


454 posted on 02/13/2010 6:05:12 PM PST by syc1959
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To: syc1959
I specifically addressed my reps and senators on this issue.

They did not see any documents or proof.

If they have reason to believe that Obama does not qualify for the office of president under the Constitution, than ask them why they didn't express their objections at the appropriate time - you know - when it would have done some good.

455 posted on 02/13/2010 6:06:03 PM PST by lucysmom
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To: EnderWiggins

Obama being the unhonorable man that he is never going let the truth stand in his way. He’s not going to submit that thing you call a birth certificate because it is BS. Obama personally keeps his distance from what is purported to be his COLB as that he believes will give him ‘plausible deniability’ when and if this blows up in his face. If and when it does, he’ll throw his Obots under the bus by saying I didn’t know. That won’t work but he will try.

Moreover, Obama has never publicly said he was born in Hawaii. He uses the choice words as “I grew up in Hawaii” or “I’m from Hawaii” and “I went to school in Hawaii”, but you have never heard him utter the words that he was born in Hawaii. Nope, he has not.


456 posted on 02/13/2010 6:06:48 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: syc1959
The problem with that is that the law that governed his father states; British nationality by virtue of citizenship.

Is that British or US law? If British, then you are claiming that US law is subordinate to British law.

457 posted on 02/13/2010 6:08:48 PM PST by lucysmom
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To: lucysmom

They as ‘OUR’ representitivers were directed to investigate and they failed. That simple.


458 posted on 02/13/2010 6:09:25 PM PST by syc1959
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To: syc1959

I see you have an vision problem.
Maybe you should try braile

5.—(1) Subject to the provisions of this section, a person born after the commencement of this Act shall be a citizen of the United Kingdom and Colonies by descent if his father is a citizen of the United Kingdom and Colonies at the time of the birth:


459 posted on 02/13/2010 6:11:10 PM PST by syc1959
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To: lucysmom

Oh? So you don’t use kneepads when you worship the affirmative action fraud-in-chief? Don’t you know that will give you camel knees? BTW, obot, there was nothing crude about it. James the brother of Jesus spent so much time in Temple on his knees, it is said of him that he had ‘camel knees’. You’re a fraud.


460 posted on 02/13/2010 6:12:55 PM PST by MHGinTN (Obots, believing they cannot be deceived, it is impossible to convince them when they are deceived.)
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