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To: Danae
His British father prevents him from being a Natural Born citizen, because you can only ever have one citizenship, that of the USA in order to be so.

So, than if British citizenship couldn't be passed to a baby conceived and born on US soil and to a US citizen mother, what would Obama's citizenship status be?

452 posted on 02/13/2010 5:59:31 PM PST by lucysmom
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To: lucysmom

The problem with that is that the law that governed his father states;

British nationality by virtue of citizenship.

1.—(1) Every person who under this Act is a citizen of the United Kingdom and Colonies or who under any enactment for the time being in force in any country mentioned in subsection (3) of this section is a citizen of that country shall by virtue of that citizenship have the status of a British subject.

(2) Any person having the status aforesaid may be known either as a British subject or as a Commonwealth citizen; and accordingly in this Act and in any other enactment or instrument whatever, whether passed or made before or after the commencement of this Act, the expression “British subject” and the expression “Commonwealth citizen” shall have the same meaning.

(3) The following are the countries hereinbefore referred to, that is to say, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, the Union of South Africa, Newfoundland, India, Pakistan, Southern Rhodesia and Ceylon.

Citizenship by birth or descent.
4. Subject to the provisions of this section, every person born within the United Kingdom and Colonies after the commencement of this Act shall be a citizen of the United Kingdom and Colonies by birth:

5.—(1) Subject to the provisions of this section, a person born after the commencement of this Act shall be a citizen of the United Kingdom and Colonies by descent if his father is a citizen of the United Kingdom and Colonies at the time of the birth:

There is go getting around that Barack Hussein Obama is a British subject, a foreigner to the United States.


454 posted on 02/13/2010 6:05:12 PM PST by syc1959
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To: lucysmom

He is a citizen. But he is not a Natural Born Citizen, and he knows it.

You see, Natural Born Citizen means you have ONLY EVER held the citizenship of the United States from birth.

This is what the founders intended. They wanted to make as sure as they could, the loyalty of the person who would have command of the Armies, its not as if they all didn’t know Benedict Arnold...

Its not a perfect system, but it is still the best we have.

For example, Jamaican Skier his name is Kerr. http://www.kansascity.com/495/story/1736828.html His mom is American, dad is Jamaican. Kerr was raised in Truckee California. Well he chose to take his dads citizenship in order to go to the Olympics. So he is American and Jamaican and playing for Jamaica. Nothing wrong with that, but it demonstrates the fact that a persons loyalties can easily be divided if one has parents who are not both citizens.

A Natural Born Citizen is one who can ONLY have one citizenship. Because both parents are citizens, and they were born on our soil, no other possibility exists. THAT was the founders intent, that was why they put Natural Born Citizen into the constitution.

If, at the instant of your birth hold the citizenship of more than one nation, you cannot ever be a Natural Born citizen of either one. Yes it is just that simple. We have lost SO MUCH of this simple basic knowledge because out HISTORY isn’t being taught anymore! People in 1780 knew this. The Founders sure as hell did. We have lost so much and now people because they are ignorant of history and ignorant of the CONTEXT of history, will believe ANYTHING because thats what they are told.

Obama’s Birth certificate is irrelevant, he is using it to mock the WHOLE birth/citizenship issue, because the two are closely related, but they ARE different issues. They are separate issues. But he is using it effectively to suppress and frankly mock the real issue, which is that of his citizenship.

It doesn’t matter where Obama was born, he could never have been a Natural Born citizen.


486 posted on 02/13/2010 7:16:30 PM PST by Danae (Don't like our Constitution? Try living in a country with out one.)
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