Document submitted for Hawaii
Posted on 02/11/2010 9:38:21 PM PST by STARWISE
Thanks to a concerned citizen, State Rep. Judy Burges’ bill appears to have been posted online as HB2441. The introduction to the bill shows that Rep. Burges is one of 11 House and Senate sponsors and includes 25 cosponsors for a total of 40 supporters of the bill:
Despite the concerns of the opposition commenters attached to this posting, Rep. Burges’ thoughts on the basis for presidential eligibility qualification are truly hers and do not represent adding further qualifications to Article 2, Section 1, Clause 5 of the Constitution; to wit:
B. THE NATIONAL POLITICAL PARTY COMMITTEE FOR A CANDIDATE FOR PRESIDENT FOR A PARTY THAT IS ENTITLED TO CONTINUED REPRESENTATION ON THE BALLOT SHALL PROVIDE TO THE SECRETARY OF STATE WRITTEN NOTICE OF THAT POLITICAL PARTY’S NOMINATION OF ITS CANDIDATES FOR PRESIDENT AND VICE-PRESIDENT. WITHIN TEN DAYS AFTER SUBMITTAL OF THE NAMES OF THE CANDIDATES, THE NATIONAL POLITICAL PARTY COMMITTEE SHALL SUBMIT AN AFFIDAVIT OF THE PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE IN WHICH THE PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE STATES THE CANDIDATE’S CITIZENSHIP AND AGE AND SHALL APPEND TO THE AFFIDAVIT DOCUMENTS THAT PROVE THAT THE CANDIDATE IS A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN, PROVE THE CANDIDATE’S AGE AND PROVE THAT THE CANDIDATE MEETS THE RESIDENCY REQUIREMENTS FOR PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES AS PRESCRIBED IN ARTICLE II, SECTION 1, CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES.
C. THE SECRETARY OF STATE SHALL REVIEW THE AFFIDAVIT AND OTHER DOCUMENTS SUBMITTED BY THE NATIONAL POLITICAL PARTY COMMITTEE AND, IF THE SECRETARY OF STATE HAS REASONABLE CAUSE TO BELIEVE THAT THE CANDIDATE DOES NOT MEET THE CITIZENSHIP, AGE AND RESIDENCY REQUIREMENTS PRESCRIBED BY LAW, THE SECRETARY OF STATE SHALL NOT PLACE THAT CANDIDATE’S NAME ON THE BALLOT.
On the face of it, this introduced language (it could change should it go all the way through the Legislature) appears to be pretty reasonable and common sense. After all, why only accept a self-ascribing document from a political party wherein a candidate merely claims they’re eligible, when such eligibility ought to be substantiated?
Notice that the bill doesn’t actually define “natural born citizen” and leaves it to the Secretary of State to “review” the materials. If the SoS “has reasonable cause to believe that the candidate does not meet the … requirements prescribed by law,” that candidate “shall” not be placed on the ballot.
In the case of Mr. Obama, should this bill pass, I would love to see what documentation he would provide for eligibility substantiation.
If the Democrat party were to include the certification of live birth, that would, at the very least, substantiate its authenticity (I’ve always operated under the theory that the COLB was posted on a private web site, not a government-run site, and hence is not subject to the same scrutiny that documents under the control of the government usually are).
Remember — in the case of this bill, anything submitted by the candidate would officially, on the record, represent who the candidate is. No such substantiation currently exists within the several States; this is a point that cannot be stressed enough.
The only thing that the States had in 2008 was that self-ascribing document, provided by the Democrat party, wherein Mr. Obama claimed to be eligible.
Wouldn’t it be great to get some actual background documentation on the record to back up Mr. Obama’s eligibility?
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Sun City, Arizona-based YourWestValley.com reported yesterday that State Representative Judy Burges (R-Skull Valley) is in the process of putting together a bill that would require a presidential or vice presidential candidate’s eligibility to be independently verified by the Arizona Secretary of State. Essentially, if the candidate’s eligibility isn’t substantiated, the proposed legislation is said to require the SoS to drop the candidate from the ballot:
Burges told Capitol Media Services the measure is not necessarily about Obama, though she admitted she has her doubts that he was born in Hawaii as he claims and, even if so, that he can show he is a U.S. citizen.
“With what’s happening throughout the world, that we need to make sure that our candidates are certifiable,” she said.
Burges did not support Obama and is not a fan. And she said if, in fact, he was not a ”natural born” citizen, that makes him suspect.
“When someone bows to the king of Saudi Arabia and they apologize for our country around the world, I have a problem with that,” she said.
State Rep. Burges was referring to the President’s “no-bow” bow to the king of Saudi Arabia that occurred back in April, 2009.
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Like one of the great flags of our Independence: “An Appeal To Heaven”
Document submitted for Hawaii
Well, that’s a good and first start, hope this bill in Arizona passes....
Now this has some legs. You are f*****, Mr Obama
This needs to get passed and McCain needs to get fired.
Okay this is one instance where I’m glad the states are trying to enforce on a states rights level a check for the Constitution.
I wonder though what will happen if say only 6-7 states pass this before 2012? Think about it, what if 2 states, sake of argument Alabama and Arizona, refuse to certify _reisent Evil Zero as a natural born citizen per state law?
I know they’re not states he’d win anyways but what if just two states stand up and say “We don’t recognize him as a natural born citizen?”. What happens to the ballot slot for the Socialist Democrat party in any state that refuses to recognize the national nominee?
Your point please?
REFERENCE TITLE: Presidential Candidates; Proof of Qualifications - HB2441
http://www.scribd.com/doc/25244224/REFERENCE-TITLE-Presidential-Candidates-Proof-of-Qualifications
Reference.
LOL. Oh boy.
I noticed that the first one stated he won the nomination, but it contains nothing about actually qualifying for the office.
Would McCane even qualify under this bill?
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Would McCane even qualify under this bill?
For Senator yes, President no. I personally thought McCain was covered by being born in the PCZ because I thought it was a legal entity of the US but apparently it was only leased from Panama. He was born about 100 yards from the Naval Base in Panamanian sovereign territory.
The reason I believe McCain didn’t go after Hussein on the BC is because his own eligibily was sketchy at best and he didn’t want any blowback, And who pushed to declare that McCain was eligible to be POTUS? Why Hussein of course.
What I write on toilet paper is more authentic than any Senate resolution.
I guess you must have missed the hoopla about Hawaii being the only state where that nomination form actually stated qualified under the constitution. All other forms sent out to the other 49 states had that piece of information removed as in the first form that you see.
This is why everyone is up in arms that still to this day no one can go after these people for placing an unqualified person on the ballot. Nancy Pelosi signed both forms on the same day with that tiny minor adjustment that most would not pick up. It worked until after the elections, then it was brought to the attention of Freepers.
This is downright fraud on the part of the DNC and should be also considered Treason!
Thanks for the ping, Starwise.
It’ll be interesting to see how this plays out. Jan Brewer is now our governor but was the sec’y of state during the election. Will she now *do the right thing* and sign such a bill?
I know she received at least ONE fax/phone call/email (from me) regarding her certification of BO’s elegibility. Of course, I never received an answer.
Maybe if AZ passes this bill it’ll make up for the fact that Janet Napalitano is in charge of Homeland Security.
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