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Glenn Beck Sucker Punches Texas Candidate Debra Medina
JohnJacobH RKBA Commentary ^ | 02/11/10 | JohnJacobH RKBA Commentary

Posted on 02/11/2010 8:23:54 PM PST by Copernicus

Like the true gentleman he is, The Welshman from the Liberty Sphere CLICK LINK HERE comes to the aid of a lady in distress. Kudos to him!

There is something squirrely about the whole Glenn Beck phenomenon and it maybe time to examine this so- called conservative who sheds crocodile tears on Television and surrounds himself with a radio pack of wannabe Howard Stern Hyenas.

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TOPICS: Government; Outdoors; Politics; Science
KEYWORDS: armedcitizen; banglist; beck; ccw; medina; paulestinians; rkba; troofers; truthers; txgov2010
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To: Engineer_Soldier
I'm a Texan who spent 10 years in Florida. I'm a big fan of Rubio.

You need to get rid of Grayson too though.

41 posted on 02/11/2010 9:17:57 PM PST by GunRunner
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To: Kerretarded

Yes, that is the only good answer. She obviously hasn’t done much big media, and there were other things besides the Truther issue that showed how nervous she was. One tip-off is that she wasn’t listening to Beck, and consequently was talking over him. Apparently, she doesn’t understand that unlike TV radio has no visual clues so you must listen.

As someone who has done a fair amount of radio and television, I can tell you that this is not uncommon. She wasn’t prepared for the question, wasn’t prepared for the medium, and failed to give a good answer. The press release that came out almost immediately after the interview I am sure reflects her actual view - she is not a Truther, but she bungled the interview and the damage was done.

I think the question was fair. Moreover, even if it hadn’t been asked, she was not doing well with Beck and it would have been a poor interview anyway (though not as bad as it was). I haven’t seen anyone comment on that, but if you go back and listen I think you’ll agree that the non-Truther part left a lot to be desired.


42 posted on 02/11/2010 9:18:05 PM PST by achilles2000 (Shouting "fire" in a burning building is doing everyone a favor...whether they like it or not)
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To: Copernicus

I am a trained scientist and engineer, educated to think critically and technically.

An, using my trained technical thinking faculties, the only conclusions that I can reach is that Medina is: a) too simple minded to aspire to a governorship. (maybe she could be a foil for Joy Behar or Rosie O’Donnell) and b) that she is incapable of giving a straight yes or no to a simple question but instead professes to be incapable of concluding on the basis of common sense and the evidence of our senses that the US government would not and could not have conspired to allow 9-11.

With respect to “truthers” in general, it is clear to me that they are not crazy, they are merely stupid and unable to follow facts and logic. If Medina is one of them, and it appears that she is, then she does not deserve your vote or anyone’s vote.

Really - saying that you have no position on the culpability of the US government in a conspiracy to murder thousands of its own citizens is the equivalent of having no position on morality of murder. It is MORONIC.


43 posted on 02/11/2010 9:20:18 PM PST by John Valentine
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To: Kerretarded

How is Perry a RINO?

He’s not a RINO; he’s a semi-RINO - good on life and gun issues. BUT, he and the Republican establishment have regularly betrayed us on spending, taxes, property rights, border enforcement, and other issues.


44 posted on 02/11/2010 9:29:49 PM PST by achilles2000 (Shouting "fire" in a burning building is doing everyone a favor...whether they like it or not)
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To: Patrick1

No offense intended, Patrick1.

I’m tiring of FR posters indicating that Medina is supported by the Tea Party patriots. ...I’ve heard many of her radio interviews and saw the first TV debate (where she just kept repeating her memorized talking points instead of answering questions).

It’s the Paulbots that are pushing Medina, not Tea Party supporters. She is a Libertarian like Ron Paul and her backers would dearly love to get a devout Libertarian into the Governor’s seat. She is also constantly playing the race card because she married someone with an hispanic surname and figures that will bring extra votes. ...I don’t believe her experience as a nurse would be beneficial to the State of Texas in the position of Governor.


45 posted on 02/11/2010 9:37:40 PM PST by octex
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To: achilles2000

Rick is my guy .. this is a wasted vote.


46 posted on 02/11/2010 9:40:01 PM PST by gibtx2 (keep up the good work I am out of work but post 20 a month to this out of WF Check)
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To: achilles2000

This was a political “mob hit” if I ever saw one.

Glenn’s always said some pretty wacky theories himself, but people still listen to him.

Here’s a conspiracy theory for you. Good ol’ fashioned dirty politics. Exactly what Glenn’s been talking about all these years and HE is the hit man. He even touted how he liked Perry and hung out with him before he brought Medina on. He said he doesn’t endorse anybody? If that wasn’t an endorsement I don’t know what is.

I believe this was put on by the old guard Republicans here in TX ala the Perry camp. They were getting scared and needed to release the dogs on Medina. Wow! This is our TX Republican party. No wonder I left.

Sorry Ricky. I’ll take a wack job over a “tax-and-steal-your-land” job any day. I’m STILL voting Media!


47 posted on 02/11/2010 9:44:40 PM PST by fox-one
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To: Kerretarded
How is Perry a RINO?

From what I've read, he has completely failed to secure the border, and worse, he actually showed support of Bush amnesty. Also, he allegedly made mandatory the immunization of young teen girls against STD's and removed the choice from parents. I don't count plain failures to push his agenda on him because, like a president, he's reliant on a congress due to the wonderful checks-and-balances we've modeled nationwide. But supporting amnesty and being the person who signs a law like mandating parents immunize their children against an STD is very liberal and those decisions - if true - came down to his signature.

48 posted on 02/11/2010 9:52:40 PM PST by Engineer_Soldier (http://www.rlc.org/ (The Republican Liberty Caucus))
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To: Copernicus

I heard the entire show this morning.

No sucker punch, and Medina didn’t come off too good herself.


49 posted on 02/11/2010 9:52:46 PM PST by Shadowstrike (Be polite, Be professional, but have a plan to kill everyone you meet.)
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To: GeronL

IMO, her inability to respond to a legitimate question was only the tip of the iceberg.


50 posted on 02/11/2010 10:00:08 PM PST by Grams A (The Sun will rise in the East in the morning and God is still on his throne.)
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To: John Valentine
I am a trained scientist and engineer, educated to think critically and technically.

This seems to be a problem with both sides of the isle. I too, as a medical student in college while serving full time as an engineer in the Army, think very critically and won't believe anything except when proven true by unbiased analyzing of the FACTS, suffer from the same problem. In fact, Kool-Aid drinkers constantly try to get me banned because I take in all of the facts first and then opine. But, in the end, unlike the Kool-Aid drinkers of the left (my professors) and those on the right who will believe anything based on party affiliation, I'm exonerated because small-government conservatism has the only track-record that wins in idealism. The right wins, but they sometimes jump the gun on "zotting" our own because of the suspicion of Marxist hijacking academia. But, we need to show that true academics prove capitalism as the greatest system in the world and that we will win in the long run.

51 posted on 02/11/2010 10:01:53 PM PST by Engineer_Soldier (http://www.rlc.org/ (The Republican Liberty Caucus))
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To: Kerretarded

Surely you jest. He’s Charlie Crist in cowboy boots.


52 posted on 02/11/2010 10:04:04 PM PST by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: Engineer_Soldier

Immunizations are not mandatory - that was withdrawn. And I am not sure exactly what our learned contributors expect him to do about the border. Pretty much everything south of Houston is Mexican and Democratic, our four largest cities are sanctuaries for illegals and Republicans have a very slim edge in Congress. Tried to get the voter ID up for vote but one very influential Democrat started the process to shut down all bills to prevent that one from coming up. It’s tough sledding with the House and Senate. People and businesses keep coming down here, we don’t issue IOU’s and if you don’t like your property taxes, take on your local school district.


53 posted on 02/11/2010 10:07:48 PM PST by Grams A (The Sun will rise in the East in the morning and God is still on his throne.)
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To: achilles2000

Hate Crimes bill— http://governor.state.tx.us/news/speech/10595/

The futile care law-—
In a debate, it was said Perry signed into law a bill that he was against. Everything I’ve found says it was Bush who signed that bill in 1999 (”the futile care law”). The problem for me is Perry didn’t know enough to defend and say he didn’t sign that into law or anything else. Apparently he’s been written letters pleading and protesting this, too. Seems to me a GRAND failure he couldn’t address this any better in debate or even able to refute the accusation.
http://www.prolifeblogs.com/articles/archives/2007/03/toddler_going_o.php
http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/front/4098417.html

Perry against the border fence—
Instead of closing the border it should be opened more and through technology support legal and safe migration. Statements Perry has made over a three-year period in which he called the idea of a border fence “preposterous,” “ludicrous,” “nonsensical,” “silly,” “idiocy” and “a cockamamie idea.”
http://www.mysanantonio.com/news/columnists/scott_stroud/Hutchisons_attack_on_border_fence_misguided.html
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQqYf3lP0rY

Mandatory Gardasil-——
Using his executive privilege, Gov. Rick Perry signed an order on Friday requiring that young girls going into the sixth grade be vaccinated against a sexually transmitted virus that can cause cervical cancer. Perry has a number of personal ties. Merck also contributed $6,000 to his reelection camp
http://www.pegasusnews.com/news/2007/feb/02/perry-signs-order-requiring-anti-cancer-vaccine-gi/
http://www.pegasusnews.com/news/2007/feb/02/perry-signs-order-requiring-anti-cancer-vaccine-gi/

That’s a few of my gripes with Perry


54 posted on 02/11/2010 10:14:12 PM PST by Irenic
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To: John Valentine

I also have a highly technical background. Furthermore, I have been trained in the dispassionate reasoning of the law. However, as I have posted elsewhere, finding our government culpable in the murder of its own citizens is not beyond the range of my imagination, on purely experiential grounds: My father was a Peal Harbor truther. Why? Because he was a navy cryptographer and he personally knew the message to FDR concerning the imminent attack on Hawaii sat in a mail slot somewhere unattended and was not delivered in a timely fashion. Furthermore, he explained that there was motive: The pacifist movement was blocking FDR from helping Churchill and Pearl Harbor overcame that and substantially changed the dynamic of the war.

Now true, no trial was ever held and no judicial body has ever declared FDR’s guilt posthumously. So the entire theory resides on the edge of credibility to the public at large. But it is precisely that ability we call critical thinking that allows us to process facts objectively and suspend judgment where plausibility and incomplete fact patterns require it. If that is where Medina was coming from, that is an honest and respectable position. Did she botch the interview? Certainly. She should have directly stated her factual doubts and not tried to be evasive.

My own position? I, like her, have never taken the theory seriously, because what little I have looked at seems implausible. Except for one thing. Unlike most folks here, for reasons stated above, I do believe our government, even under Bush, is capable of extremely cynical behavior, up to and including actions harmful to the people. If I did NOT believe that, I would probably NOT be a constitutionalist, as men would be angels and oversight of the government by the people an unnecessary source of indigestion.


55 posted on 02/11/2010 10:17:40 PM PST by Springfield Reformer (Winston Churchill: No Peace Till Victory!)
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To: Springfield Reformer

Pearl Harbor, that is. Sorry.


56 posted on 02/11/2010 10:22:05 PM PST by Springfield Reformer (Winston Churchill: No Peace Till Victory!)
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To: Springfield Reformer

My position is that even if any particular administration were capable of such perfidy, the execution would involve so many people that the coverup would never hold. The government can’t even keep the lid on legitimate national security secrets. How in blue blazes could it keep the lid on something like this?

As for Pearl Harbor, a belatedly delivered coded message does not culpability make, especially on the part of FDR. That a faction inside his administration could have sat on this message for a time is entirely believable, but is a far cry from what the government is accused of on and leading up to 9-11.


57 posted on 02/11/2010 10:37:13 PM PST by John Valentine
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To: octex

That’s what I believe as well.

I don’t have a problem with Libertarians..to each their own.

I do have a problem with them running with an “R” behind their names instead of an “L”.

I have a couple of other problems with Ms. Medina aside from today. But my main issue is lack of experience.

I fear that the Scott Brownitis may infect many races in the country. Not every unknown is the best choice, imho.


58 posted on 02/11/2010 10:37:37 PM PST by berdie (Hey, Bill Mahr...That's Mrs. Cracker to you.)
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To: Copernicus

If she admitted being a truther then she jumped her own shark.

Beck just showed her the plank.


59 posted on 02/11/2010 10:38:25 PM PST by wardaddy (I have been in a serious RHCPers mood lately......)
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To: Copernicus

hmmmmm

i went and read the transcript online

now I am more ambivalent

can anyone here clarify more background on this?


60 posted on 02/11/2010 10:40:48 PM PST by wardaddy (I have been in a serious RHCPers mood lately......)
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