I got booted from the Tea Party Nation

1/16/2010 | David Farrar

[DavidFarrar]

The message that, apparently, did me in was my response to a poster who had asked me if my real motive in posting at TPN was to fragment the cause.

My response is reprinted below:

[DavidFarrar]

No, not in the least. My intent is to simply state for the record, putting Republicans into public office isn't going to be enough to limit government growth, lower our taxes or vouchsafe our precious liberty alone. The Tea Party movement needs to actually move some of the power the people once enumerated via the Constitution to the three branches of government back to the people. There are, of course many ways we can do this. Below is a list of some 19 that I have collected so far. I am sure there are others.

1. Congressional Term Limits: One four or six year term*

2. Members of Congress should purchase their own individual retirement plans.

3. Members of Congress should participate in the general Social Security system.

4. Members of Congress should no longer be able to vote themselves pay raises. Congressional pay raises should be approved at the ballot box by the general electorate

5. Members of Congress should not be given any special health care benefits not accessible by all Americans

6. Members of Congress should be barred from enacting laws that usurp Private Enterprise under the general welfare provisions of the U.S. Constitution.

7. Members of Congress must equally abide by all laws enacted and impose on all.

8. Members of Congress should enact the flat tax, with no exemptions up to a set amount.

9. Members Congress should call for a Congressional investigation to address Barack Obama’s presidential qualifications as per Article II, Section I, Clause 5 of the U.S. Constitution, as well as any future president.

10. Members of Congress should call for a Constitutional Convention to take away the power of the executive branch of government, or the legislative branch, to print money without the consent of the electorate, except in extremis cases, where a two/thirds majority would be required by Congress and approved by the general electorate at the next election.

11. No person holding political office may declare for another office without first resigning their present office.

12. Candidates running for office should not be allowed to accept campaign contributions from outside the district they wish to represent.

13. Repeal employer withholding of taxes.

14. Each bill addressed by Congress must have a Constitutional declaration or it will be non-binding.

15. Enact voter verification procedures to insure accurate elections. 16. Any labor contracts served by the collection of public taxes are strictly limited to the taxes collected, including pension plans.

17. Eminent domain cannot be used by the state to benefit a private entity.

18. Children of illegal aliens are not U.S. citizens but citizens of their parents country.

19. Both the Senate and the House of Representatives shall create independent investigative offices to address ethics charges against the executive branch of government.

But my point is this: Unless the Tea Party movement can focus its political strength around the task of re-empowering the people, along with electing fiscal conservatives to high public office, nothing will not, and cannot, change.

I hope this clears up any misunderstanding you may have had as to the intent of my postings. Thank you for your concern.

Lastly -- now that you mentioned it -- I do have a website that, in its own modest way, does offer a solution to the present political conundrum facing the Tea Party movement. It's new, of course, and is not readily understood by many, but it is designed to take advantage of the wonderfully new and powerful communicative tool called the Internet.

In essence, what the Tea Party movement needs to do is to create a web presence that will give all Tea Party members their voice. Allow all members to speak and all to be accurately be heard.

ex animo

davidfarrar

[unsycophant]

What do you mean you got booted? From the organization, or from the website?

What do you expect should happen when you’re disrupting or attacking someone’s business?

[Spike Knotts]

So you got banned from a website...BFD.

That is news. Thanks for letting us know.

[HD1200]

So you are a birther?

No wonder.

[jennyjenny]

Lastly -- now that you mentioned it -- I do have a website that, in its own modest way, does offer a solution to the present political conundrum facing the Tea Party movement. It's new, of course, and is not readily understood by many, but it is designed to take advantage of the wonderfully new and powerful communicative tool called the Internet.

Sounds like you are trying to work against them instead of with them.

[La Lydia]

Members of Congress do participate in the Social Security system, and have since the 1980s. Need to do your homework. Also, members of Congress purchase their health insurance like many in the private sector do, that is, their employer pays for part of the coverage, they pay for the rest, they can choose high-deductible or low-deductible policies. I agree with many of your suggestions, but think you would be more effective if you had all of your facts straight.

[DavidFarrar]

I got banned from their website. Apparently, many are getting banned who actually move off their business model script.

ex animo
davidfarrar

[DavidFarrar]

Well, not exactly. The poster had asked me if I had one. I didn’t offer it.

ex animo
davidfarrar

[BipolarBob]

Aha!! So you advocate the internet over other forms of communication. I see. Moses used stone tablets when reforming the laws in His neighborhood. Paul Revere used lanterns. At sea and battle Morse Code is used but NO these aren’t good enough for you. I think I see where the problem lies.

[JimRed]

No person holding political office may declare for another office without first resigning their present office.

Effective at the time of declaring, or by the time of the election? I could live with that, along with the term limitations.

[mazda77]

Any Tea party group that endorses one particular political party is asking for a boatload of trouble and is indicative of one that is not registered as a 501C non or not for profit group. If they are not registered as such, they are not a part of the national Tea Party Patriots movement that is having their first convention in a few weeks in which Sarah palin will be the keynote speaker.

The TPPs DO NOT endorse the Tea Party of Florida political party created by a less than credible Democrat donating attorney from the Orlando area who has been in trouble in the past with questionable campaign practices.

Be careful people. There are lots of sheisters waiting in the wings for the opportunity to fleece you and the ligitimacy of the nono-partisan TTP movement because of their obvious growing power and recognizable influence with voters of all parties who are fed up with the elite political class.

[Boiling point]

With regard to number 4. If we paid congress the average wage in the USA, MINUS the unemployment rate, the prime interest rate, and the inflation rate, not only would anyone ever have to vote on their income again, but their pay would reflect their performance. In the bill that set this up, you would also have to state that no supplemental pay bills may be passed, otherwise the weasels would just give themselves bonuses when times were hard.

[JimRed]

So you are a birther?

No wonder.

You seem to indicate that wanting specific answers to a pertinent question about an individual entrusted with immense power for good or harm is somehow wrong.

[DavidFarrar]

Thanks, La Lydia.

I will work on those two planks and see if I can focus on them a bit more.

But, you see, the point of the list is to try and get Tea Party members to understand it really won’t matter much if good fiscal conservatives are elected to public office if the power structure hasn’t changed.

Yes, we will stop Obama’s mad dash to communism, but government growth, higher taxation and a continuing assault on our precious liberty will continue unabated, while the energy of the Tea Party movement will have dissipated.

ex animo
davidfarrar

[Altura Ct.]

But my point is this: Unless the Tea Party movement can focus its political strength around the task of re-empowering the people, along with electing fiscal conservatives to high public office, nothing will not, and cannot, change.

You are absolutely right. The Leviathan in DC needs to go. It is antithetical to our long term well being and preservation. We need way more focus from the ground up not the way it is now.

[DavidFarrar]

I don’t see anything wrong with creating an official venting process after the election to make sure the two people who are to occupy the most powerful offices in the world meet their Constitutional requirements.

ex animo
davidfarrar

[scottteng]

How about not paying elected officials at all. They can meet via teleconferencing and have a business in their district to make their daily bread. Get rid of the political class in a hurry.

[DavidFarrar]

At the time of qualifying. At present it is prior to taking the oath of office.

ex animo
davidfarrar

[Nateman]

I would have booted you for #10. If you were to convene a constitutional convention now leftists would use it to get rid of all those things in the constitution they have not managed to get ignored and them some. It’s a radioactive idea with unfortunate appeal to well meaning fools.

[DavidFarrar]

I don’t for a minute question the legitimacy of TPN. And no one is endorsing any particular political party that I know of. But that doesn’t mean we, as Tea Party supporters, can’t adopt core political precepts that would actually lay the necessary groundwork for achieving less government, less taxes and more personal liberty while the public is aroused — I can assure you, this point has not been lost on all of the RINOS in Congress and the rest of the Republican corporate sellouts who supported TARP in the first place.

Just as you say, there are many politicians all too willing to wrap the cloak of the Tea Party movement around their shoulders, especially if nobody can tell you what that cloak represents.

ex animo
davidfarrar