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Some Observations: Huckabee IS Locking Up The Social Conservative Vote
12/16/09 | Laissez-Faire Capitalist

Posted on 12/16/2009 9:52:42 AM PST by Laissez-faire capitalist

For the sake of brevity - straight to the point (pun intended).

I have thought long about Huckabee's recent interview with Katie Couric. One of the topics that came up was Huckabee's view on same-sex marriage, and it was no accident that it came up. Huckabee's position on the issue of abortion is concrete - he is ardently pro-life. What remained was for him to effectively frame the same-sex marriage debate, and that he did. Quite effectively in fact.

In short, he told Couric that he was pro-traditional marriage, not anti-same sex marriage. He said that it's not that he is against gay marriage, it is that he is for traditional marriage, and that marriage should be between one man and one woman, not one man and one man, one man and two women, etc.

Secondly, he said that once you open the door by redefining marriage (by allowing legal, consenting adult same sex marriage), that there is "no limit" on marriage being redefined again, and that you open the door for allowing marriage to be redefined once again to allow legal, consenting adult polygamous marriage.

Third, he said that it wasn't bigotry and intolerance to not support consenting adult polygamous marriage.

Huckabee has framed this issue in a way that is unwinnable for liberals - and they cannot counter him on this - at least not effectively.

If liberals say that Huckabee is an intolerant bigot, he can say that if he is an intolerant bigot, then they are just as bigoted and just as intolerant as he because they don't support marriage being redefined to allow consenting adult polygamous marriage. He can say that they are also hypocrites to boot (the label that NO ONE wants) because they support marriage being redefined to allow consenting adult same sex marriage, but they don't support marriage being redefined to allow consenting adult polygamous marriage for the tens of thousands of polygamists in America who do want to get married. He can say that at least he is consistent on the issue of marriage: no to polygamy and no to same sex marriage.

If some bring up the question of polygamous marriage presently being illegal, Huckabee can say that same-sex marriage is presently illegal in the overwhelming majority of places in the U.S. and that at one time it was illegal everywhere in the U.S.

If some bring up polygamous marriage being declared illegal by SCOTUS, then Huckabee can say that if same-sex marriage were declared illegal by SCOTUS that gay activists would never cease in trying to get a future SCOTUS to overturn its ruling in the future.

If liberals say that they are against discrimination and for marriage equality for gays, and that Huckabee is not, then Huckabee can counter by asking why they don't support marriage equality for polygamists and why do they support discrimination against them?

And on and on it would go...

This is an unwinnable situation for liberals, who really went after Huckabee on social issues in the 2008 elections. NO ONE wants to be seen as pro-polygamy. NO ONE. Just ask one of Obama's nominees.

Scalia was correct. We were told that overturning the sodomy laws would never, ever lead to gay activits trying to get same-sex marriage legalized. Look at what has happened. We have also been told that if marriage is redefined to allow consenting adult same sex marriage, that it would never ever be redefined again to allow consenting adult polygamous marriage. Sure.

The same arguments that have been used in the push for same sex marriage can be used in the push for polygamous marriage: Bigotry, intolerance, "marriage equality," discrimination, "marriage is about love" and so on.

The one thing that liberals might say to Huckabee is that the Bible condones polygamy, so why doesn't he? They would be hard pressed, though, to find anywhere in the Bible where Jesus condoned polygamous marriage.

For those who may wonder: Will I support Huckabee in 2012? Here is my list of whom I support in 2012, and in this order: Palin, Jindal, Huckabee.


TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Government; Politics; Society
KEYWORDS: 2012; couric; homonaziagenda; homosexualagenda; huckabee; katiecouric; liberalbigot; liberalbigotry; mikehuckabee; polygamy
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To: pallis
Huckabee isn't a social conservative. He wraps all his farcical alleged social conservatism in the 'Christian' label. But when you peel back the label, you see he's nothing more than your run of the mill RINO who cloaks social liberalism with compassionate Christianity.

"I raised taxes because children need roads." ~ Mike Huckabee, RNC debates 2008

141 posted on 12/16/2009 6:43:08 PM PST by rintense (You do not advance conservatism by becoming more liberal. ~ rintense, 2006)
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To: rintense

“...compassionate Christianity.”

Christianity has nothing to do with compassionate conservatism or any other form of government plundering and redistribution of wealth schemes. Christian giving has nothing to do with using the government to extract charity taxes. When a politician redistributes wealth, it’s a safe bet the reasons are political, not compassionate. Doing it under the guise of Christian charity is contemptible.


142 posted on 12/16/2009 7:12:36 PM PST by pallis
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To: pallis

And now you understand why I loathe Huckabee.


143 posted on 12/16/2009 7:30:27 PM PST by rintense (You do not advance conservatism by becoming more liberal. ~ rintense, 2006)
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To: Windflier

Anyone who claims to “lean” conservative and “lean” libertarian...obviously has to “lean” from another position in the first place...

The “voice of reason” who needs to set “you people” straight....

OUTED!

IBTZ!


144 posted on 12/16/2009 11:41:50 PM PST by Crim
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

The left is trying to select the most beatable candidate for the GOP — Romney, Huckabee, Pawlenty, Jindal, and on and on — and the RINOs will go along for the money. All of them work together to keep conservatives from having a voice in the nominations.


145 posted on 12/16/2009 11:45:51 PM PST by meadsjn (Sarah 2012, or sooner)
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To: Debacled
I hate to say it but Sarah is unelectable. Her image will not be boosted by writing a book and promoting it. I think, in substance, she is better than Obama. However, the welfare parasites, the homonazis, the New Atheists, soccer moms, anyone under 30, FDR & JFK Dems, all of New England, Pennsylvania, New York, and anyone with a college education will vote against her.

I have a college education and I'll vote for her.

I think, in substance, she is better than Obama.

You do? Wow.

You're in your twenties...did you come up with this crap all by yourself?

146 posted on 12/17/2009 12:11:26 AM PST by Chunga (Any IDIOT who says Obama would be better for the country than McCain is a disgrace - Mark Levin)
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To: Debacled
I’d rather take Sarah over Obama

Yeah, that's why you repeat Mo Dowd's 'Caribou Barbie' slur of Palin on your profile page.

Or, should we more accurately say, you used to. Buh-bye.

147 posted on 12/17/2009 5:51:48 AM PST by Admin Moderator
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To: Crim
Anyone who claims to “lean” conservative and “lean” libertarian...obviously has to “lean” from another position in the first place...

Heh... you caught that too!

That poster might not be drawing a paycheck from BHO Inc., but you wouldn't know it by their posts.

148 posted on 12/17/2009 7:33:10 AM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Admin Moderator

“Yeah, that’s why you repeat Mo Dowd’s ‘Caribou Barbie’ slur of Palin on your profile page.

Or, should we more accurately say, you used to. Buh-bye.”

Good job!


149 posted on 12/17/2009 12:56:58 PM PST by jim35 (A racist is someone who is winning an argument with a liberal.)
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