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America’s Two Unconstitutional Presidents
Examiner.com ^
| 12-14-2009
| Dianna Cotter
Posted on 12/14/2009 7:02:03 AM PST by Danae
Students of history know that history repeats itself, and today we are reliving the past of 1880s. Some of the similarities between the 21st President and the 44th are startling, and the ramifications are huge.
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During the campaign of 1880, questions were asked about Chesters birth place, but just as today, those doing the research were looking in the wrong direction. Arthurs father, William Arthur was a British citizen at the time of the future Presidents birth. Born in Ballymena, Ireland in 1796 he would not become a Naturalized citizen until August 31st, 1843. No one ever checked into his immigration status at the time of his sons birth. Chester Arthur, 14 at the time his father was naturalized, and would surely have known this. Sound somewhat familiar?
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Today, a direct and startlingly similar situation exists between President Arthur and President Obama. The 44th President was also born to a British citizen, not a naturalized citizen of the United States. For the same reasons both Presidents were not eligible for the office, the only difference lay in Barack Obamas public admission of his fathers status:
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Copy of William Aurthur's Naturalization in 1834 is at the link with a lot more.
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posted on
12/14/2009 7:02:04 AM PST
by
Danae
To: little jeremiah; STARWISE; rxsid; Fred Nerks; null and void; stockpirate; george76; PhilDragoo; ...
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posted on
12/14/2009 7:08:23 AM PST
by
Danae
(No political party should pick candidates. That's the voters job.)
To: Danae
Was Chet Arthur sent here with foreign backing to destroy America? If not, I’ll give him a pass.
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posted on
12/14/2009 7:08:34 AM PST
by
Oratam
To: Danae
"The 44th President was also born to a British citizen, not a naturalized citizen of the United States."
Is this an admission that the president is not a natural born citizen, or just speculation?
This article has one of two purposes:
a) To show that obama is, in fact, foreign born to a British subject, and is not eligible to be president, or;
b) To show that a white guy got away with it, so it would be unfair to boot out the black guy.
I'm guessing it's the latter.
They knew at some point they were going to have to admit it, and now they think they have found an excuse to make it ok.
Just sayin'.
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posted on
12/14/2009 7:13:12 AM PST
by
FrankR
(SENATE: You cram it down our throats in '09, We'll shove it up your ass in '10...count on it.)
To: Oratam
So lying about eligibility is ok with you?
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posted on
12/14/2009 7:13:17 AM PST
by
rolling_stone
(no more bailouts, the taxpayers are out of money!)
To: Danae
From Wiki:
“His father had initially migrated to Dunham, Lower Canada, ....”
Scary............
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posted on
12/14/2009 7:19:34 AM PST
by
Red Badger
(Al Gore is the Bernie Madoff of environmentalism. He belongs in jail. - Unknown Blogger)
To: Danae
With any luck, perhaps another fact will repeat itself: Arthur was a one-termer, actually a little less, since he only served a little over three years.
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posted on
12/14/2009 7:24:40 AM PST
by
MizSterious
(Do you not think an angel rides in the whirlwind and directs this storm? John Page, 1744-1808)
To: Danae
Well, I think they have Chester Arthur confused with his father, William. After doing a little research, I found these facts:
Chester Arthur
Term: 21st President of the United States (1881-1885)
Born: October 5, 1829, Fairfield, Vermont
Nickname: "The Gentleman Boss"
Religion: Episcopalian
Marriage: October 25, 1859, to Ellen Lewis Herndon (1837-1880)
Children: William Lewis Herndon (1860-1863), Chester Alan (1864-1937), Ellen Herndon (1871-1915)
Education: Union College (graduated 1848)
Career: Lawyer
Political Party: Republican
Died: November 18, 1886, New York, New York
Buried: Albany, New York
Life in Brief: Chester Arthur was the fifth child of a fervent abolitionist preacher who moved his family from one Baptist parish to the next throughout New York and Vermont. Attending Union College, Arthur showed far more interest in extracurricular activities and political demonstrations than in his studies.
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posted on
12/14/2009 7:28:28 AM PST
by
FrankR
(SENATE: You cram it down our throats in '09, We'll shove it up your ass in '10...count on it.)
To: Oratam
No, he was a product of Party Machine politics, and was a very unexpected candidate for Vice President. He never specifically went for the nomination. It was a political compromise between the “Half-Breeds” or civil service reformists, and the “Stalwarts” those who used the political Machine of which Chester Arthur was one. It was a compromise ticket, the “Half-Breed” Garfield would get the nod for President.
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posted on
12/14/2009 7:29:10 AM PST
by
Danae
(No political party should pick candidates. That's the voters job.)
To: Oratam
Oh, and Arthur did know about his fathers citizenship, and also knew that he himself was not a Natural Born Citizen.
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posted on
12/14/2009 7:29:52 AM PST
by
Danae
(No political party should pick candidates. That's the voters job.)
To: FrankR
William Arthur was the father of Chester Arthur. William did not become a Naturalized citizen of the United States until 14 years after Chester’s birth, Chester was not born as a Natural Born Citizen, he was also British.
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posted on
12/14/2009 7:31:32 AM PST
by
Danae
(No political party should pick candidates. That's the voters job.)
To: Danae
I’ll bet Chet didn’t spend $1.7 million covering up his birth documents and the facts surrounding his [lack of] natural born citizenship.
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posted on
12/14/2009 7:34:37 AM PST
by
The Sons of Liberty
(Pork Eating CRUSADER - FUBO! Mene, Mene, Tekel, Upharsin)
To: null and void
I’m not on the birther list yet.
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posted on
12/14/2009 7:35:37 AM PST
by
Shimmer1
(It wasn’t “hope and change” it was “rope and chains”. Y'all just misheard him.))
To: Danae
There is nothing unconstitutional about having a British father.
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posted on
12/14/2009 7:36:45 AM PST
by
mlo
To: Danae
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posted on
12/14/2009 7:38:11 AM PST
by
kabar
To: FrankR
Maybe. I personally think there is some evidence to suggest that Frank Marshall Davis is Obama’s biological father. Davis was many things, but he was also, I believe, a US citizen.
Maybe it’s just my sense of the absurd. But it would indeed be noteworthy if, in covering this up Obama stepped into a deeper problem.
The only thing that can be said with certainty is that obama is covering up something. He may be eligible for office, or not. But he definitely seems to be lying.
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posted on
12/14/2009 7:38:34 AM PST
by
cvq3842
(A fool and his liberty are soon parted.)
To: mlo
Chester Arthurs lies came during his Vice Presidential campaign in 1880. His fraudulent attempt to obfuscate family history provides context and evidence that in 1880 it was recognized that having been born as a British citizen would make one ineligible to be President or VP. His falsification of family history indicates he was aware of POTUS ineligibility.
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posted on
12/14/2009 7:40:23 AM PST
by
kabar
To: Danae
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posted on
12/14/2009 7:40:54 AM PST
by
gunnyg
(Just An Old Gunny ~ And *Still* Not A F'n Commie Basterd!)
To: gunnyg
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posted on
12/14/2009 7:42:57 AM PST
by
gunnyg
(Just An Old Gunny ~ And *Still* Not A F'n Commie Basterd!)
To: mlo
Not at all. It is unconstitutional to run for President or Vice President if you are the son of a British Citizen.
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posted on
12/14/2009 7:45:12 AM PST
by
Danae
(No political party should pick candidates. That's the voters job.)
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