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President Obama’s Chance for Easy Victory over the “Birthers” (with poll)
Eye On The Law ^ | 12-12-09 | Jeffrey Nichols

Posted on 12/12/2009 3:02:19 PM PST by STARWISE

This office offers no opinion on the merits of the controversy regarding President Obama’s eligibility to hold office. Instead, we wonder why the President hasn’t put an end to the controversy.

Amidst all the speculation, conspiracy theories, and lawsuits surrounding President Obama’s original birth certificate, one obvious and valid question seems to stand out no matter which side of the debate one is on: why doesn’t he just produce it? (And why hasn’t anyone asked him this?)

The President has fought production of his original birth certificate in numerous lawsuits. In one, a U.S. Army Reserve major from Florida argued that his order to deploy to Afghanistan was potentially illegal because the President’s eligibility to hold office has not been confirmed.

Instead of confronting the issue directly, the military revoked the soldier’s deployment orders. These facts have added considerable fuel to the ongoing suspicion and debate.

Everyone appears to agree that President Obama’s original birth certificate (not the short-form Certificate of Live Birth that has been produced) would end the controversy and the lawsuits and quiet the so-called “birthers” once and for all.

Are we missing something here?

We want to hear from you. Please explain below why you think President Obama has not produced or should not produce his original birth certificate. Please vote to the left.


TOPICS: Government; History; Politics
KEYWORDS: birthcertificate; birthers; certifigate; eligibility; naturalborncitizen; obama
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To: Red Steel

One thing is certain, the birthers are not hurting Obama in the least.


21 posted on 12/12/2009 4:18:54 PM PST by Libertarianize the GOP (Make all taxes truly voluntary)
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To: Libertarianize the GOP

Comments like yours amaze me. So, just because I want to know things about Obama that we know about every other president or candidate means I discredit myself? In case you missed it, the media did not vet this guy at all; period. This guy is not just hiding his birth records but also his school records, college transcripts, college entrance paperwork, travel documentation and other things. Why would anybody honest have all that information sealed and hidden from the voters and then spend millions to keep it that way? The public know Bush’s, Kerry’s, Clinton’s and Gore’s life story, GPA and even grades in particular classes but we know nothing about this guy. Why does he get to hide stuff that nobody else is allowed to? I did not ask for this idiot to be president so I think it is only fair that I know exactly what kind of scum represents me. Everybody knew everything about GW; why do you feel I should have to take this moron on his word? I do not know what B Hussein Obama is hiding but I suspect he is hiding something, otherwise why go through all this? The question I have is why do you think it is ok for BHO to hide all of his information from the voters? Do you think everybody else who runs for President from now on should be able to conceal similar info too?


22 posted on 12/12/2009 4:19:16 PM PST by jospehm20
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To: Libertarianize the GOP
comprised of nutters and can be dismissed without the need to confront them.

He does confront them - with lawyers at a cost over $1.4M.
23 posted on 12/12/2009 4:22:41 PM PST by presently no screen name
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To: Libertarianize the GOP
With all that he is trying to do to the American People his numbers should be much worse

What is he trying to do to the American people?
24 posted on 12/12/2009 4:25:21 PM PST by presently no screen name
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To: jospehm20

Most Presidents have gotten away with hiding information from the public. Neither Clinton nor Kennedy would release their medical records because they had things to hide. People don’t vote for the real person, they vote for the image that he manages to portray. It would be nice if voters took the time to fully vet Presidential contenders but history demonstrates otherwise.


25 posted on 12/12/2009 4:26:45 PM PST by Libertarianize the GOP (Make all taxes truly voluntary)
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To: Libertarianize the GOP

In your opnion then the rising number of people who believe that he has a problem with do not reflect his rising unpopularity and there’s no connection between the two? That does not make a whole lot os sense. It seems you are speculating without evidenitary support.


26 posted on 12/12/2009 4:28:58 PM PST by AmericanVictory (Should we be more like them or they more like we used to be?)
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To: Libertarianize the GOP

Voters do not have the resources to vet a candidate on their won, that is supposed to be the media’s role. Clinton and Kennedy may not have released their medical records but we did know where and when they were born, where they traveled to internationally and how they did in school. I think that information is vital to vetting a candidate. How is a voter supposed to vet Barry if that information is not available?


27 posted on 12/12/2009 4:32:41 PM PST by jospehm20
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To: STARWISE

His long form BC from Hawaii has NO mother or father’s name on it...therefore, it is a worthless document.


28 posted on 12/12/2009 4:34:30 PM PST by shield (A wise man's heart is at his RIGHT hand;but a fool's heart at his LEFT. Ecc 10:2)
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To: presently no screen name
What is he trying to do to the American people?

Take over the Healthcare industry and make healthcare decisions for the people instead of allowing them the freedom to make their own decisions, regulate any activity that produces CO2, spend us into oblivion, undermine the effort to fight al Qaeda, and run around the world telling everybody how bad America has been--especially the former President George W. Bush.

Spending money on lawyers is not fighting the birthers when a failure to respond could result in a default judgement.

29 posted on 12/12/2009 4:35:18 PM PST by Libertarianize the GOP (Make all taxes truly voluntary)
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To: jospehm20
How is a voter supposed to vet Barry if that information is not available?

Voters evidently felt they had enough information or they were certain that McCain would be worse. Don't ask me to explain an Obama voter, I worked on McCain's campaign even though I disliked him and his gutting of the First Amendment through McCain-Feingold. I had enough information to know that Obama would be a catastrophe for our country even without seeing his birth certificate.

30 posted on 12/12/2009 4:44:45 PM PST by Libertarianize the GOP (Make all taxes truly voluntary)
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To: BuckeyeTexan
I think he won’t produce the long form because it contains information that he considers embarrassing.

What about his kindergarten records, his kindergarten records, his Occidental College records, his Columbia records and thesis, his Columbia thesis, his Harvard Law School records and HLR articles, his passport, his medical records, his files from his years as an Illinois state senator, his Illinois State Bar Association records, any baptism and adoption records.

Surely you can come up w/something better than 'embarrassing'.
31 posted on 12/12/2009 4:48:11 PM PST by presently no screen name
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To: Libertarianize the GOP

And a default judgement would mean what? He would have to produce proof of birth? Why is that worth over a million if he is on the level? Is it just to prove he is special and does not have to produce the same documentation any genuine American kid has to produce to play little league ball or get a driver’s license? This whole argument is thoroughly ridiculous.


32 posted on 12/12/2009 4:48:15 PM PST by jospehm20
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To: Libertarianize the GOP

And a default judgement would mean what? He would have to produce proof of birth? Why is that worth over a million if he is on the level? Is it just to prove he is special and does not have to produce the same documentation any genuine American kid has to produce to play little league ball or get a driver’s license? This whole argument is thoroughly ridiculous.


33 posted on 12/12/2009 4:48:19 PM PST by jospehm20
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To: Libertarianize the GOP

Do you believe Obama is on the level and not hiding something by sealing all his records?


34 posted on 12/12/2009 4:53:32 PM PST by jospehm20
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To: Libertarianize the GOP
So we agree he's anti-American in his actions. ANYONE that fights for getting his records released, IMO, is a PATRIOT.

Spending money on lawyers is not fighting the birthers when a failure to respond could result in a default judgement

You, however, react to what 'could' happen. Weak! Thank God for our original Patriots weren't intimidated by what 'could' happen.
35 posted on 12/12/2009 4:56:00 PM PST by presently no screen name
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To: jospehm20

Sure Obama is hiding things but what is important is the policies that is implementing. Other than the secretive meetings with congress and the shear length and complexity of the bills the American people have an idea of what he is doing. Concentrate on that instead of wasting time on trivia like his birth certificate, the time to challenge that was while congress was certifying the votes of the electors and supposedly assuring that a candidate had qualified.


36 posted on 12/12/2009 5:03:23 PM PST by Libertarianize the GOP (Make all taxes truly voluntary)
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To: patriot08

ObaMugabe seems a tad effeminate, doesn’t he?


37 posted on 12/12/2009 5:04:31 PM PST by ought-six ( Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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To: onyx; BP2; Red Steel; maggief; penelopesire; Fred Nerks; All

Wow! Quite a response to the poll:

Yes.

219 (96%)

No.

7 (3%)

I was the 3rd one to vote when I posted the piece, and
there were NO ... ‘nos.’


38 posted on 12/12/2009 5:04:38 PM PST by STARWISE (They (LIBS-STILL) think of this WOT as Bush's war, not America's war- Richard Miniter)
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To: STARWISE

There weren’t any NO votes when I voted either.


39 posted on 12/12/2009 5:07:01 PM PST by onyx
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To: STARWISE

This catastrophe and attack on America called barack HUSSEIN obama goes way beyond a birth certificate.
The citizenry had better act, and soon!
We have no other recourse but to do it ourselves.


40 posted on 12/12/2009 5:08:51 PM PST by SentForth5 (Just sayin' is all...)
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