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President Obama under the Lens of the Citizenship Question
The Conservative Underground, Vol. 2, No. 30 | November 24, 2009 | Jean F. Drew

Posted on 12/05/2009 11:07:08 AM PST by betty boop

President Obama under the Lens of the Citizenship Question

By Jean F. Drew

The Preamble to the Constitution of the United States of America declares:

We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general Welfare, and secure the blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.

So, who are these “People,” beyond the fact that they are the sovereign power that “ordained and established” our fundamental rule of law? In other words, in what is their sovereignty actually rooted that is capable of legal cognizance? And how are people in succeeding generations — “our Posterity” — to be qualified as members of this sovereign People?

Such questions draw us to the meaning of citizenship, and how citizenship has been defined and understood over the course of U.S. history. Taking stock now, we find that citizenship is something intuitively understood by most Americans; i.e., a citizen is a fellow member of the We the People of the Preamble. A person could be a member of this class by virtue of American birth or via the naturalization process. Precise legal guidance at the definitional level is still insufficient, since the Constitution itself does not explicitly address these particulars. We feel this lack of explicit guidance most keenly today in the question of whether the currently sitting president is a “natural-born citizen of the United States,” as he is required to be under Article II, Section 1, Clause 6 of the U.S. Constitution.

For the Framers, U.S. citizenship admits from only two possible classes: natural born or naturalized. The first class pertains to citizenship acquired from the moment of birth; the second to natural-born citizens of a foreign state who have satisfied the statutory eligibility requirements of becoming a United States citizen.

What remains ambiguous is whether “natural born” status depends on the geographical place of one’s birth (doctrine of jus soli — the “law of the ground,” or “of the soil”), the citizenship status of the parents one is born of (jus sanguinis — the “law of the blood,” or of natural inheritance), or some combination thereof.

The Constitution itself nowhere defines “natural born.” Our earliest nationalities act — the Naturalization Act of 1790 — is the only instance of statutory “natural born” language that we have. Just five years later, the term “natural born” was removed, with passage of the Nationalities Act of 1795. This act recognizes foreign-born children of two American parents as citizens of the United States from the moment of birth. This would be an application of the doctrine of jus sanguinis. Thus, John McCain was a citizen of the United States from the moment of his birth. Even though he was born on foreign soil, i.e., in the Panama Canal Zone, he is a natural-born citizen of the United States, by virtue of his double American-citizen parentage. This contrasts with the cases of, for example, ex-Secretary of State Henry Kissinger, a natural-born citizen of Germany who became a U.S. citizen in 1943; or of California’s current governor, Arnold Schwarzenegger, a natural-born Austrian citizen who became a U.S. citizen in 1983. Or of the case of my favorite modern philosopher, the natural-born German Eric Vöegelin who, having fled Hitler in 1937, became a naturalized American citizen in 1942.

Under the original Constitution, it was up to each of the several sovereign states to determine who its own citizens were. Indeed, the very idea of state sovereignty would be diminished, were this not the case.

The great complication of state sovereignty in determining citizenship was, of course, that some states refused to acknowledge the citizenship of the “three-fifths-of-a-person” persons born within their respective geographical boundaries. Then, on July 9, 1868, the Fourteenth Amendment was ratified — taking care of that problem by nationalizing U.S. citizenship. In so doing, there was an effective move away from the doctrine of jus sanguinis, to that of jus solis: “All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside.”

Now the federal government determines who a state’s citizens are, and forbids the states to transgress the privileges or immunities of these newly-minted citizens of the United States. In short, the Fourteenth Amendment turned tradition on its head.

Thus the emphasis shifts from “natural born” — birth to American citizen parents (as formerly determined by the states), jus sanguinis — to “native born” — the geographical location of one’s birth (i.e., within U.S. territory), jus solis.

With the result that today a poor expectant Mexican woman has every incentive to illegally enter the United States for the purpose of bearing her child in an American hospital (at public expense), on American soil — which instantly confers U.S. citizenship on her child. And thus the widespread phenomenon of the “anchor baby” occurs. This issue is beyond the scope of the present article. We merely note here for present purposes that this anchor baby has zero U.S.-citizen parents.

More to the point would be to ask: What kind of citizen is President Barack Hussein Obama? It does not appear that he is “natural born,” at least not under the original understanding of that term, as being the child of two American-citizen parents, irrespective of physical location of birth. For we know his father, Barack Obama, Sr., was a natural-born Kenyan, and a British citizen under the British Nationalities Act of 1947.

If BHO was in fact born in Hawaii, then at best he would be “native-born.” But even this is uncertain; the alleged records attesting to his Hawaiian birth are under seal. A Certificate of Life Birth allegedly issued by the State of Hawaii was posted on his campaign website last year. But had to be quickly taken down, after it was discovered to be a forgery. His school records from Indonesia characterize him as a citizen of Indonesia. He has Kenyan family members who are on record as saying they were present at his birth — in Kenya. A Kenyan birth certificate has surfaced; to the best of my knowledge, its authenticity has not been verified. It’s all terribly confusing; and the Obama Administration is expending tremendous amounts of taxpayer funds ($1.4 million and counting) on lawyer fees, trying to keep these matters as “dark” as possible. So much for the campaign promise of “transparency” from this administration.

The so-called “Truthers” are all over Obama’s supposed origins in Hawaii, on which his “natural-born-status” seemingly wholly depends in their minds. But this is to follow a course leading down into a rabbit hole that offers nothing definitive at the end of the search. The reason being: Hawaii issues Certificates of Live Birth (COLB) to any person born within its geographical jurisdiction, without regard to, or taking any position on, the parental citizenship of the child, or what the child may naturally inherit therefrom such to be qualified as a natural born citizen of the United States. The Hawaiian birth record — if it exists — can only attest to the geographical location of Obama’s birth; it cannot address issues regarding whether he acquires citizenship from his father (British) or from his mother (American) or both. Hawaii — post Fourteenth Amendment — has no power to determine the citizenship status of our sitting President.

In Schneider v. Rusk, 377 U.S. 163 (1964), the Supreme Court held “We start from the premise that the rights of citizenship of the native-born and of the naturalized person are of the same dignity and are coextensive. The only difference drawn by the Constitution is that only the ‘natural born’ citizen is eligible to be President.”

And thus presumably, the native-born anchor baby will never be eligible to be President, on “natural born” grounds. For he is the child of non-citizens.

Now let us presume that what the Hawaiian Secretary of State has under seal (i.e., Obama’s “long-form” birth record) really exists. So what? It, by itself, cannot speak to the question of whether BHO is a “natural born citizen.” It could only attest to native-born status.

Of course, what the Framers were mainly worried about was captured in a 1789 letter John Jay sent to George Washington, who was then presiding over the Constitutional Convention in Philadelphia:

“Permit me to hint, whether it would be wise and seasonable to provide a strong check to the admission of Foreigners into the administration of our national Government; and to declare expressly that the Commander in Chief of the American army shall not be given to nor devolve on, any but a natural born Citizen.”

Especially in the case where we clearly have an inordinately “internationally-minded” POTUS in office right now, I for one would like to know exactly what kind of citizen he is. But he and his team are doing everything in their power to prevent me from finding out. Which just naturally leads to the question: WHY?

The question is particularly urgent, for President Obama is on record as saying he finds the U.S. Constitution —which he (twice) swore an Oath to preserve, protect, and defend — wanting. He finds it wanting because it is not a statement of positive federal government powers, but is rather a negative prescription of what government may not do. That being the case, as an “activist-minded individual,” evidently he simply ignores it, and seemingly violates it every day before breakfast as if it were a matter of principle with him.

Of course, if he is not a “natural born citizen,” and knows it, then he violated his presidential oath of office in the very act of taking it.

If he is not a “natural born citizen,” then we need to recognize that his successful acquisition of Presidential Office has been aided and abetted by the Democratic National Committee, which certified his eligibility for office; and by Nancy Pelosi, who again certified him, before the Electoral College.

We the People of the United States of America have a few questions. And we want answers. Maybe a good place to start would be to examine the “due diligence” records of the DNC and Ms. Pelosi, which led to their respective certifications of Obama’s eligibility to serve.

If we can’t get answers from the Obama people, maybe we need to start querying the DNC and/or Ms. Pelosi: What did they know, and when did they know it?

Just some food for thought.


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To: betty boop
( The Preamble to the Constitution of the United States of America declares:

" We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general Welfare, and secure the blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America. "

Either the Federal Government lacks understanding in what the preamble of the Constitution of the United States of America ( are we to believe that they are that ignorant ? ) or ? they are on a course to deliberately chose to ignore what the Constitution declares.....

The US Constitution does not say " WE THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT " of the United States of America.... it expressly says " WE THE PEOPLE " and in " WE THE PEOPLE " is where the Federal Government get's it's just powers from the CONSENT of the " WE THE PEOPLE " ...
21 posted on 12/05/2009 11:53:53 AM PST by American Constitutionalist (There is no civility in the way the Communist/Marxist want to destroy the USA)
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To: betty boop
Now let us presume that what the Hawaiian Secretary of State has under seal (i.e., Obama’s “long-form” birth record) really exists. So what? It, by itself, cannot speak to the question of whether BHO is a “natural born citizen.” It could only attest to native-born status.

I beg to differ. Look at the birth record below: (this is the latest fake birth record)

Obama Birth Certificate

Listed on this birth record is the "birth place" of the father in block 11. IF the birth place shows any country other than the United States then Barack Hussein Obama is NOT a natural born citizen. Barry is a lawyer he knows the day he turns that birth record loose is the day he goes to court with a challenge to his natural born status that he swore to.

22 posted on 12/05/2009 11:54:12 AM PST by missnry (The truth will set you free ... and drive liberals Crazy!)
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To: bgill
Of course the DNC knew it. Nan knew it when she signed a candidate certification to Hawaii but only a nomination letter for the other states.

Oh really??? I didn't know that! But it sure fits La Pelosi's standard M.O....

Can we spell: CORRUPTION?????????????????

Thank you oh so much, bgill, for your outstanding observations!

23 posted on 12/05/2009 11:55:21 AM PST by betty boop (Without God man neither knows which way to go, nor even understands who he is. —Pope Benedict XVI)
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To: Molon Labbie
" I just cannot fathom what Obama would have lost squashing this shortly after his inauguration? This contentious issue is not going away."

It's a festering boil full of puss of infected rank stinky mess ready to drain out.
24 posted on 12/05/2009 11:59:18 AM PST by American Constitutionalist (There is no civility in the way the Communist/Marxist want to destroy the USA)
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To: betty boop

A distinct possibility Obama may not be even a citizen.

If Obama was born overseas his mother was too young by statute to pass on U.S. citizenship, and he was not naturalized. If she could pass her citizenship to Barack Obama, he still would not be a natural born U.S. citizen because he would have received it by legislative act and not by the US Constitution.


25 posted on 12/05/2009 12:02:42 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: bgill
Hawaii is so or was so liberal in their birth certificate policies, that even General Mao Zedong can be a “ Natural Born Citizen “ of the United States.


All he needed was someone to file papers in Hawaii back then, and have a few wittnesses, and BINGO BABY ! he's a US Citizen...

I WAS BORN IN HAWAII TOO , MY COLB says so... SARCASM ...


26 posted on 12/05/2009 12:05:22 PM PST by American Constitutionalist (There is no civility in the way the Communist/Marxist want to destroy the USA)
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To: Red Steel

Obama is like global warming.

Another testimonial to the power of the media to sell an unproven concept to the masses.


27 posted on 12/05/2009 12:07:11 PM PST by nascarnation
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To: American Constitutionalist
The US Constitution does not say " WE THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT " of the United States of America.... it expressly says " WE THE PEOPLE " and in " WE THE PEOPLE " is where the Federal Government get's it's just powers from the CONSENT of the " WE THE PEOPLE " ...

Oh so very true, American Constitutionalist!

But that the federal government derives its just powers ONLY from the People is the part we're all supposed to conveniently forget nowadays.

A week or so ago, the Big 0 was holding forth on "core American values" in some speech or other. (It's hard to keep 'em all straight; he makes a speech at least once every day.)

Anyhoot, he said these "core American values" were "enshrined" in the Constitution.

Ahem. To say that something is "enshrined" is to acknowledge that it is already dead.

I really believe that the Constitution is "dead" for the Big 0. We can pay our respects to the past and gone; but a New World is dawning.... And let's face it, a Constitution and popular consent are inconvenient to the New Birth that the Big 0 has in mind....

Thank you so much for your excellent essay/post AC!

28 posted on 12/05/2009 12:08:41 PM PST by betty boop (Malevolence wears the false face of honesty. — Tacitus)
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To: betty boop
Mr President, Breitbart just posted your Kenyan birth certificate......


29 posted on 12/05/2009 12:09:29 PM PST by nascarnation
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To: betty boop

IMO, unless and until 0bama presents irrefutable evidence of his natural born status, he remains INELIGIBLE to hold the office he currently occupies.

There are far too many questions about his background, and far too much money being spent to keep them unanswered for anyone to blindly believe he is, in fact, eligible to hold the office.

The Congress failed in it duty to verify the eligibility. The former VP failed in his duty to demand that verification. And, the 0bamaroids continue to defend their messiah without answers to these very basic questions.

It’s time to take back the country.


30 posted on 12/05/2009 12:12:57 PM PST by PubliusMM (RKBA; a matter of fact, not opinion. 01-20-2013: Change we can look forward to.)
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To: betty boop

Link?


31 posted on 12/05/2009 12:13:41 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: betty boop

This writer is careless. Among other things, she calls “Birthers” “Truthers.”


32 posted on 12/05/2009 12:20:55 PM PST by Arthur McGowan (In Edward Kennedy's America, federal funding of brothels is a right, not a privilege.)
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To: American Constitutionalist

I suppose. I just pray it is resolved, for better or worse.


33 posted on 12/05/2009 12:22:18 PM PST by Molon Labbie
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To: Arthur McGowan
This writer is careless. Among other things, she calls “Birthers” “Truthers.”

Mea culpa, mea culpa, mea maxima culpa....

34 posted on 12/05/2009 12:26:33 PM PST by betty boop (Malevolence wears the false face of honesty. — Tacitus)
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To: Red Steel

Red Steele ? what the Obots fail to realize or deliberately chose to ignore is that Hawaii’s birth certificate policies were or are so liberal and lax that it’s so easy to become a “ Natural Born “ US Citizen, that even a caveman can do it.


35 posted on 12/05/2009 12:30:15 PM PST by American Constitutionalist (There is no civility in the way the Communist/Marxist want to destroy the USA)
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To: The Comedian

getting quite good at alliterations lately. LOL


36 posted on 12/05/2009 12:32:04 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: Red Steel
A distinct possibility Obama may not be even a citizen.

Indeed. There has been speculation that he was enrolled at Occidental University as a "foreign-exchange student." But of course, those records are sealed.

The really odd thing is, when I Googled on Obama's education, the Occidental College relation didn't even come up. Instead, he is depicted as being an International Relations graduate of Columbia University, Class of 1983.

Funny thing about that is, apparently, no other members of the Class of 1983 at Columbia University in the International Relations program recall ever seeing this guy at the time. Strangeness compounding strangeness. But these records are sealed, too.

So, who knows who — or what — this person is!!!

Thank you so much for writing, Red Steel!

37 posted on 12/05/2009 12:32:52 PM PST by betty boop (Malevolence wears the false face of honesty. — Tacitus)
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To: The Comedian


" Even though I was born 10,000 BC, I knew that if I go to Hawaii and file for a birth certificate, that I knew Hawaii would accept me as a " Natural Born " US Citizen... I am a " Natural Born Citizen because my COLB says so " ....
It's so easy that a caveman can do it...
38 posted on 12/05/2009 12:34:21 PM PST by American Constitutionalist (There is no civility in the way the Communist/Marxist want to destroy the USA)
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus; Salvation
TQC, we could really use a link here!!!!

Can you help?

The folks need to see the archive at CU. There's an amazing amount of good thinking and writing going on over there.....

39 posted on 12/05/2009 12:35:09 PM PST by betty boop (Malevolence wears the false face of honesty. — Tacitus)
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To: Arthur McGowan

Should be Vetters.


40 posted on 12/05/2009 12:35:41 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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