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President Obama under the Lens of the Citizenship Question
The Conservative Underground, Vol. 2, No. 30 | November 24, 2009 | Jean F. Drew

Posted on 12/05/2009 11:07:08 AM PST by betty boop

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To: betty boop
( The Preamble to the Constitution of the United States of America declares:

" We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general Welfare, and secure the blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America. "

Either the Federal Government lacks understanding in what the preamble of the Constitution of the United States of America ( are we to believe that they are that ignorant ? ) or ? they are on a course to deliberately chose to ignore what the Constitution declares.....

The US Constitution does not say " WE THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT " of the United States of America.... it expressly says " WE THE PEOPLE " and in " WE THE PEOPLE " is where the Federal Government get's it's just powers from the CONSENT of the " WE THE PEOPLE " ...
21 posted on 12/05/2009 11:53:53 AM PST by American Constitutionalist (There is no civility in the way the Communist/Marxist want to destroy the USA)
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To: betty boop
Now let us presume that what the Hawaiian Secretary of State has under seal (i.e., Obama’s “long-form” birth record) really exists. So what? It, by itself, cannot speak to the question of whether BHO is a “natural born citizen.” It could only attest to native-born status.

I beg to differ. Look at the birth record below: (this is the latest fake birth record)

Obama Birth Certificate

Listed on this birth record is the "birth place" of the father in block 11. IF the birth place shows any country other than the United States then Barack Hussein Obama is NOT a natural born citizen. Barry is a lawyer he knows the day he turns that birth record loose is the day he goes to court with a challenge to his natural born status that he swore to.

22 posted on 12/05/2009 11:54:12 AM PST by missnry (The truth will set you free ... and drive liberals Crazy!)
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To: bgill
Of course the DNC knew it. Nan knew it when she signed a candidate certification to Hawaii but only a nomination letter for the other states.

Oh really??? I didn't know that! But it sure fits La Pelosi's standard M.O....

Can we spell: CORRUPTION?????????????????

Thank you oh so much, bgill, for your outstanding observations!

23 posted on 12/05/2009 11:55:21 AM PST by betty boop (Without God man neither knows which way to go, nor even understands who he is. —Pope Benedict XVI)
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To: Molon Labbie
" I just cannot fathom what Obama would have lost squashing this shortly after his inauguration? This contentious issue is not going away."

It's a festering boil full of puss of infected rank stinky mess ready to drain out.
24 posted on 12/05/2009 11:59:18 AM PST by American Constitutionalist (There is no civility in the way the Communist/Marxist want to destroy the USA)
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To: betty boop

A distinct possibility Obama may not be even a citizen.

If Obama was born overseas his mother was too young by statute to pass on U.S. citizenship, and he was not naturalized. If she could pass her citizenship to Barack Obama, he still would not be a natural born U.S. citizen because he would have received it by legislative act and not by the US Constitution.


25 posted on 12/05/2009 12:02:42 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: bgill
Hawaii is so or was so liberal in their birth certificate policies, that even General Mao Zedong can be a “ Natural Born Citizen “ of the United States.


All he needed was someone to file papers in Hawaii back then, and have a few wittnesses, and BINGO BABY ! he's a US Citizen...

I WAS BORN IN HAWAII TOO , MY COLB says so... SARCASM ...


26 posted on 12/05/2009 12:05:22 PM PST by American Constitutionalist (There is no civility in the way the Communist/Marxist want to destroy the USA)
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To: Red Steel

Obama is like global warming.

Another testimonial to the power of the media to sell an unproven concept to the masses.


27 posted on 12/05/2009 12:07:11 PM PST by nascarnation
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To: American Constitutionalist
The US Constitution does not say " WE THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT " of the United States of America.... it expressly says " WE THE PEOPLE " and in " WE THE PEOPLE " is where the Federal Government get's it's just powers from the CONSENT of the " WE THE PEOPLE " ...

Oh so very true, American Constitutionalist!

But that the federal government derives its just powers ONLY from the People is the part we're all supposed to conveniently forget nowadays.

A week or so ago, the Big 0 was holding forth on "core American values" in some speech or other. (It's hard to keep 'em all straight; he makes a speech at least once every day.)

Anyhoot, he said these "core American values" were "enshrined" in the Constitution.

Ahem. To say that something is "enshrined" is to acknowledge that it is already dead.

I really believe that the Constitution is "dead" for the Big 0. We can pay our respects to the past and gone; but a New World is dawning.... And let's face it, a Constitution and popular consent are inconvenient to the New Birth that the Big 0 has in mind....

Thank you so much for your excellent essay/post AC!

28 posted on 12/05/2009 12:08:41 PM PST by betty boop (Malevolence wears the false face of honesty. — Tacitus)
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To: betty boop
Mr President, Breitbart just posted your Kenyan birth certificate......


29 posted on 12/05/2009 12:09:29 PM PST by nascarnation
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To: betty boop

IMO, unless and until 0bama presents irrefutable evidence of his natural born status, he remains INELIGIBLE to hold the office he currently occupies.

There are far too many questions about his background, and far too much money being spent to keep them unanswered for anyone to blindly believe he is, in fact, eligible to hold the office.

The Congress failed in it duty to verify the eligibility. The former VP failed in his duty to demand that verification. And, the 0bamaroids continue to defend their messiah without answers to these very basic questions.

It’s time to take back the country.


30 posted on 12/05/2009 12:12:57 PM PST by PubliusMM (RKBA; a matter of fact, not opinion. 01-20-2013: Change we can look forward to.)
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To: betty boop

Link?


31 posted on 12/05/2009 12:13:41 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: betty boop

This writer is careless. Among other things, she calls “Birthers” “Truthers.”


32 posted on 12/05/2009 12:20:55 PM PST by Arthur McGowan (In Edward Kennedy's America, federal funding of brothels is a right, not a privilege.)
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To: American Constitutionalist

I suppose. I just pray it is resolved, for better or worse.


33 posted on 12/05/2009 12:22:18 PM PST by Molon Labbie
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To: Arthur McGowan
This writer is careless. Among other things, she calls “Birthers” “Truthers.”

Mea culpa, mea culpa, mea maxima culpa....

34 posted on 12/05/2009 12:26:33 PM PST by betty boop (Malevolence wears the false face of honesty. — Tacitus)
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To: Red Steel

Red Steele ? what the Obots fail to realize or deliberately chose to ignore is that Hawaii’s birth certificate policies were or are so liberal and lax that it’s so easy to become a “ Natural Born “ US Citizen, that even a caveman can do it.


35 posted on 12/05/2009 12:30:15 PM PST by American Constitutionalist (There is no civility in the way the Communist/Marxist want to destroy the USA)
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To: The Comedian

getting quite good at alliterations lately. LOL


36 posted on 12/05/2009 12:32:04 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: Red Steel
A distinct possibility Obama may not be even a citizen.

Indeed. There has been speculation that he was enrolled at Occidental University as a "foreign-exchange student." But of course, those records are sealed.

The really odd thing is, when I Googled on Obama's education, the Occidental College relation didn't even come up. Instead, he is depicted as being an International Relations graduate of Columbia University, Class of 1983.

Funny thing about that is, apparently, no other members of the Class of 1983 at Columbia University in the International Relations program recall ever seeing this guy at the time. Strangeness compounding strangeness. But these records are sealed, too.

So, who knows who — or what — this person is!!!

Thank you so much for writing, Red Steel!

37 posted on 12/05/2009 12:32:52 PM PST by betty boop (Malevolence wears the false face of honesty. — Tacitus)
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To: The Comedian


" Even though I was born 10,000 BC, I knew that if I go to Hawaii and file for a birth certificate, that I knew Hawaii would accept me as a " Natural Born " US Citizen... I am a " Natural Born Citizen because my COLB says so " ....
It's so easy that a caveman can do it...
38 posted on 12/05/2009 12:34:21 PM PST by American Constitutionalist (There is no civility in the way the Communist/Marxist want to destroy the USA)
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus; Salvation
TQC, we could really use a link here!!!!

Can you help?

The folks need to see the archive at CU. There's an amazing amount of good thinking and writing going on over there.....

39 posted on 12/05/2009 12:35:09 PM PST by betty boop (Malevolence wears the false face of honesty. — Tacitus)
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To: Arthur McGowan

Should be Vetters.


40 posted on 12/05/2009 12:35:41 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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