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ikeonic: Victim of Palin Zot
Ikeonic ^ | 12/5/2009 | Ikeonic

Posted on 12/05/2009 9:54:41 AM PST by ikeonic

Sarah's explanation of why she legitimized the birther conspiracy theorists feeds right into her victimhood storyline:

Voters have every right to ask candidates for information if they so choose. I’ve pointed out that it was seemingly fair game during the 2008 election for many on the left to badger my doctor and lawyer for proof that Trig is in fact my child. Conspiracy-minded reporters and voters had a right to ask … which they have repeatedly.
Ah yes... Palin was a victim of a massive left wing conspiracy that forced her to courageously step down as Alaska's governor.  So it's only fair (to her mind) that Obama be hounded by an equally loony right wing conspiracy -- the birthers.  Well, you just can't argue with logic like that!

Rick Moran at Pajamas Media takes Palin to task and then some.  Here's a sample:

I note that some Palin fans are trying to spin the fact that she never called on the president to produce his birth certificate or questioned his citizenship. They are missing the point. Sarah Palin has said that these questions are legitimate, that voters have a right to know, and that “a lot” of citizens are concerned about it.

She didn’t say what any rational person on the right or left believes: that questions about the president’s birth have been settled by the state of Hawaii, that only a very small group of citizens are even concerned about the issue, and that an equally small number of people were even aware of the ridiculous controversy over Trig’s origins.

Moran continues:
Those who are tempted to say that Sarah Palin’s attempt to legitimize the birther movement will destroy her campaign should forget it. It will never happen. She is immunized against such career-ending gaffes by her loyal followers who don’t want to listen to anyone when they criticize, laugh, or beat their heads against a wall over the latest evidence that as presidential material Palin would make a good candidate for the mayor of Wasilla.
The problem is, unless the GOP — and that includes Rush Limbaugh and the other cotton candy conservatives who wield a lot of influence — stand up and denounce her in no uncertain terms, birtherism will have gone completely mainstream in the Republican Party. If that happens, you might want to forget about any significant gains at the polls for the GOP in 2010.
By her stupidity, she is now going to force every GOP candidate for the House and Senate to come out and declare whether they are birther nuts or not.
Indeed.  Read the whole story here.

The only reason I bother these days to post anything about Palin is merely to declare that I rue the day McCain ever picked her as his running mate (stupidest decision of his adult life) and pray that someday soon she will return to Alaska and disappear.  Palin is the poison pill that threatens to sink the entire GOP and I refuse to take that pill and go down with her. 

I'm not going to hold my nose and vote for Palin.  I can not go to my grave with that vote on my conscience.  It was bad enough holding my nose and voting for her to be one heartbeat away from the Presidency.  If she is our nominee in 2012 or 2016 or 20xx, I will vote for a third party or none of the above.  If she's all we got, then we deserve to lose.  It's that simple.

Now some might call me hypocritical for supporting Palin while she was the nominee.  True enough... but I'll leave it to Chuckles Johnson to offer up an explanation for anything I wrote in support of Palin last year:

Says Chuckles: "I was skeptical of her, but I was ready to defend her, because it was hyper-partisan time."

On that much, I'll agree with Chuckles -- and I agree with little Chuckles has to say these days.  In hyper-partisan mode, I too said a lot of things to defend Palin.  I swallowed hard and praised her just as I know it pained others to praise McCain during the campaign. 

But once the election was over, I pulled few punches with Palin.  Just as every RINO hating social conservative wasted no time in spouting their hatred for McCain once the election was over.  I was always a McCain supporter (and wish he'd beat Bush in 2000), but never liked Palin for anything other than her ability to regurgitate sound bites (more like bait) to appeal to the base. 

I always preferred Pawlenty and think McCain would have been far better served to lose with honor with Pawlenty at his side than to throw a Hail Mary with Palin and unknowingly launch the career of the all but certain destructor of the modern day GOP.  In the end, the shadow of Sarah Palin may well drawf all the good McCain accomplished in the US Senate.


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To: ikeonic
You forgot to take your meds again today didn't you?

Try making a rational factual argument instead of posting this childish compilation of hysteric emotional bile and ignorant demagoguery about Palin and people might take you seriously.

Your article is one long rant based on no facts, no reason, nothing more their your emotional based hyper dislike for Palin.

In a high school English class, your post would revived an F. It is intellectually incoherent and overtly emotional with no rationally defensible points.

You argue just like the Leftist, all personal attacks and no facts. We expect better from those trying to claim the "conservative" label.

81 posted on 12/05/2009 11:23:00 AM PST by MNJohnnie (Demand Constitutionality)
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To: ikeonic
"You'll never persuade me to agree with you, but I'll give you all credit for your unbreakable faith in Saint Sarah. Like the Goracle and Obamania, her cult hero worship knows no bounds. Sarah worship is a religion and her converts can't be reasoned with."

BWAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHA...MORE SOLID LOGIC FROM THIS FOOL...HE PUTS DOWN ONE GROUP BY ANNOUNCING HE HAS THE VERY QUALITIES FOR WHICH HE PUTS THEM DOWN... HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA........

82 posted on 12/05/2009 11:23:23 AM PST by jessduntno (Make the Democrats STFU - Stop The Federal Usurpation...dump them out in 2010.)
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To: RatsDawg
Yeah, like you can make a case that Pawlenty and McCain are Reagan Conservatives

Nah, I'd rather argue that Dubya was a Reagan conservative who gave us a massive prescription drug entitlement (that McCain opposed) and tax cuts that were never matched by spending cuts (again McCain opposed this). Reagan at least tried to starve the beast and cut non-defense spending. Dubya didn't even bother.

So yeah, let's have more Dubya "compassionate" conservatives... that's the ticket! You may dislike McCain, but fiscally speaking he was light years ahead of Dubya's completely reckless spending. Dubya only looks good in retrospect because Obama is light years worse.

83 posted on 12/05/2009 11:24:44 AM PST by ikeonic
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To: ikeonic

“Nope, I’m just a real American asking real questions.”

Well, that would be admirable, but you neither asked or answered anything...you simply proved what a vapid mimic of the left you are...


84 posted on 12/05/2009 11:25:58 AM PST by jessduntno (Make the Democrats STFU - Stop The Federal Usurpation...dump them out in 2010.)
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To: ikeonic

Yup, Dubya was a Big Government type too, who along with McCain wanted the bailouts. Dubya is another establishment figure head, who grew the government, worse than McCain would have, I agree.

As for your rants on Free Speech, McCain-Finegold, enough said.


85 posted on 12/05/2009 11:27:24 AM PST by RatsDawg (At least we don't have to worry about riding in Ted Kennedy's car anymore...)
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To: ikeonic
Is Palin running for office in 2010? “

Chortle!
You Daily Kos pals are going to wish she were running.
She is going to be such a force for Republicans in 2010’s elections, you and your bottom feeding pals will wish you'd let her finish her term in Alaska.
The biggest mistake you suckers made was to make it impossible for her to finish her term.
You are going to pay a very heavy price for that blunder in 2010.
Democrats! As stupid as doorknobs (apologies to door knobs), and always too clever by half.

86 posted on 12/05/2009 11:28:27 AM PST by SmokingJoe
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To: MNJohnnie
If he dropped the invective and made a calm, factual, reasoned case for his views

Palin bashers can't MNJ....

They use strawman arguments, take her quotes out-of-context, parrot the Left's Tina Fey interpretation of Sarah...and claim that it's her actual personality.

Her 16 years of political experience, her pioneer American upbringing, traditional values, and strong family and pro-American views...they casually disregard because it doesn't fit their narrative, and they continue to recycle the propaganda.

In frustration, they'll then have the audacity to say that WE'RE the ones who's blind and worshiping her...but they never reveal who they support nor would they support Sarah anyway even if she was somehow able to finish her term

87 posted on 12/05/2009 11:29:20 AM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist (10 YEARS OF FREEPING! HAPPY ANNIVERSARY EEE!!!)
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To: Genoa

I think I hear crickets chirping?
I am so glad to hear that the state of Hawaii has released birth record that shows the hospital Barack was born in and the citizenship of his parents.
Maybe ikeonic is scanning that Hawaii birth record right now to post it. I am sure that is what he is doing!

/s


88 posted on 12/05/2009 11:29:55 AM PST by missnry (The truth will set you free ... and drive liberals Crazy!)
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To: ikeonic

“I’ll never join the Democrats.”

You already have in a very specific way. Wear that donkey proud okay?


89 posted on 12/05/2009 11:30:39 AM PST by toddausauras
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To: ikeonic

Boy, you done went and poked a fire ant hill with a stick. Many of the Polin supporters do seem to be very like the Obama supporters, don’t they?


90 posted on 12/05/2009 11:31:36 AM PST by Peter Horry (Those who aren't responsible always know best.)
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To: ikeonic
You'll never persuade me to agree with you”

Ummm...who the heck wants to persuade you?
Can one persuade a street whore not to sell her body to the highest bidder every night?
Look around you, dude.
Most FReepers here strongly back Sarah Palin.
It's you that needs to persuade people here(and from the looks of it, you are failing miserably), not the other way round.
I am quite happy for bottom feeding varmint not to support Sarah Palin. The stench in the room will be too hard to take.

92 posted on 12/05/2009 11:33:36 AM PST by SmokingJoe
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To: hurry2012

My apologies for doubting your honesty. Welcome aboard.


93 posted on 12/05/2009 11:35:03 AM PST by MNJohnnie (Demand Constitutionality)
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To: ikeonic
To further your point, Palin was picked by McCain for EXACTLY the reasons you list above.

Actually she was picked because of her work in energy.

The more of us like Rick Moran, Cal Thomas and Jonah Goldberg that speak out on Palin, the more vile reaction we'll get

I personally don't care how bad these clowns bash Palin. They're beltway conservatives. They don't have any influence on the base.

but in the end, we must face the ugly truth about Palin. She ain't Reagan, she ain't Maggie Thatcher and she is not going to save the GOP... she can only destroy it. Or best case scenario she'll just go rogue and QUIT again

Yep, she's a quitter and will destroy the GOP, which is why thousands of people in different cities are camping overnight to see the quitter in person.

Have fun watching your loser candidate get the support of the grassroots in 2012.

94 posted on 12/05/2009 11:36:45 AM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist (10 YEARS OF FREEPING! HAPPY ANNIVERSARY EEE!!!)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

Quick, serious question for Palinistas:

If Romney or McCain or fill in the blank RINO that you can’t stand were the GOP nominee in 2012 instead of Saint Sarah, would you:

a) Hold your nose and vote for the GOP nominee
b) Write in vote for Palin
c) Vote for the Democrat
d) Vote for third party candidate (which Palin could well be!)
e) Not vote

Seriously, I’d like to know. It seems like many of you are so in love with Palin (and you know I’m the complete opposite) that it would be very, very difficult for any of you to vote for another RINO like McCain. It seems like your attitude is Sarah or no one else. If not, I’d like to hear why not. But Sarah or else, seems like a recipe for disaster if she doesn’t get the nomination as many of you seem to think is pre-destined. What if you’re wrong and she doesn’t get the nomination? What if Romney does? What then?


96 posted on 12/05/2009 11:39:01 AM PST by ikeonic
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To: Peter Horry; Jim Robinson
Many of the Polin supporters do seem to be very like the Obama supporters, don’t they?

The owner of this website also support Governor Palin.
So by definition, he's no better than an Obama supporter too right?

98 posted on 12/05/2009 11:41:53 AM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist (10 YEARS OF FREEPING! HAPPY ANNIVERSARY EEE!!!)
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To: ikeonic
Those who have concerns about Obama’s eligibility are not a mere “fringe”. Please take note of the following poll. There is NO WAY Palin can tip toe around this stinking carcass in the living room. There are too many Republicans ( 51% at minium) who are yelling, screaming, and frantically pointing at the carcass!

Personally, I thought Palin handled the questions brilliantly.

ngus Reid Global Monitor) - Three-in-ten Americans think their current head of state was not born in the United States, according to a poll by Angus Reid Strategies. 70 per cent of respondents believe Barack Obama was born in the U.S., while 30 per cent do not.

While only 13 per cent of Democratic Party supporters believe Obama was not born in the U.S., the proportion rises to 25 per cent among Independents and 51 per cent among Republican Party backers.

http://www.angus-reid.com/polls/view/obama_was_not_born_in_us_republicans_say/

99 posted on 12/05/2009 11:42:08 AM PST by wintertime
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
Actually she was picked because of her work in energy. “

Not just that.
In addition, she was picked for being about the most ethical, Governor in the entire country, with the strongest record of fighting corruption in the country, even corruption in her own party. Plus a record of achievements as governor, that would make 0bozo(who achieved NOTHING in his 2 years as a US Senator before starting his campaign) give his back teeth.

100 posted on 12/05/2009 11:42:26 AM PST by SmokingJoe
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