Posted on 12/04/2009 9:55:41 PM PST by Gordon Greene
Thank you for injecting a breath of fresh air and restoring a dose of sanity to this thread.
“’I should have thought it the greatest heresy to doubt his firm belief in Christianity. His life, his writings, prove that he was a Christian. He was not one of those who act or pray, “that they may be seen of men” ‘ - Nelly Custis-Lewis, granddaughter of George Washington “
Excellent post. Thank you and God bless.
GG
And, particularly thanks to John Leland 1789 for making known the availability of the material.
Yet another example of you tossing a firebomb and then pussing out when called on it...kind of like this whole thread.
If you are tired of responding, stop letting your mouth write checks that your butt can't cash.
Done.
Thanks for the memories.
When you spread all of that Bullsh*t you have to expect flies......
Thanks for proving my point.
“Not all scientists agree that all parts of Evolution are scientifically sound.”
Good thing all Christians agree on everything - otherwise I’d be able to poke holes in your argument.
“Human Evolution is one of biggest scams in history other than global warming.”
Global warming is false science - Just like “creation science” is false science.
Human evolution is a theory - with research, study and information backing it up - and the research and study continues. Intellectual giants have pondered this and continue to do so. You calling it a “scam” is rather humorous, unless, of course you wish to claim intellectual gigantitude for yourself, or anyone on your side. There are no intellectual giants on your side.
So - believe in creationism - as faith.....leave the science to the folks who know what they are doing.
“In our Richmond there is much fanaticism, but chiefly among the women. They have their night meetings and prayer parties, where, attended by their priests, and sometimes by a hen-pecked husband, they pour forth the effusions of their love to Jesus, in terms as amatory and carnal, as their modesty would permit them to use a mere earthly lover.”
I would have to see more, and know the source.
Are some bringing up the Deist thing among some of our founders to insist that they were anti-Christian, or hostile to Christianity?
Benjamin Franklin, on the morning of June 20th, 1787 gave an address to the Constitutional Convention in which he said,
“I have lived, sir, a long time, and the longer I live, the more convincing proofs I see of this truth-—that God governs in the affairs of men. And if a sparrow cannot fall to the ground without His notice, is it probable that an empire can rise without His aid? We have been assured, sir, in the sacred writings, that ‘Except the Lord build the house they labor in vain that build it.’ I firmly believe this; and I also believe that without His concurring aid we shall succeed in this political building no better than the builders of Babel. We shall be dived by our little, partial, local interests; our projects will be confounded, and we ourselves become a reproach and by-word down to future ages. And, what is worse, mankind may hereafter, from this unfortunate circumstance, despair of establishing governments by human wisdom, and leave it to chance, war, and conquest.
“I therefore beg leave to move that henceforth prayers imploring the assistance of Heaven, and its blessingon on our deliberations, be held in this assembly every morning before we proceed to business, and that one or more of the clergy of this city be requested to officiate in that service.”
THE CHRISTIAN LIFE AND CHARACTER . . . , Banjamin Morris, 1864, p. 299.
Deists do not believe that God intervenes in the affairs of men.
Thomas Jefferson’s first message as president includes these words:
“I shall need the favor of that Being, in whose hands we are, who led our fathers, as Israel of old, from their native land, and planted them in a Country flowing with all the necessities and Comforts of life; who has covered our infancy with His providence, and our riper years with His wisdom and power; and to whose goodness I ask you to join with me in supplications that He will so enlightn the minds of your servants, guide their counsels, and prosper their measures, and whatsoever they do shall result in your good and shall secure to you the friendship and approbation of all nations.
“Can the liberties of a nation be thought secure, when we have removed their only firm basis, a conviction in the minds of the people that these liberties are th gifts of God?-—that they are not to be violated except with His wrath? Indeed I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just, and that His justice cannot sleep forever.”
Sure I can.
But biologists have never demonstrated anything beyond variation. They’ve never demonstrated the major kinds of changes that they claim happened to produce life on this planet.
And it doesn’t matter how the tweak and manipulate the definition of the word *species*.
The Bible, prayer, and creationism were part of public education for centuries in this country with no deleterious effect on either education or scientific research.
People are fighting the exclusion of those things. They’re not asking for them to be introduced as if it’s something new. They’re asking for it to be put back, as it was for centuries before it got forced out.
Can YOU see the difference? Most evos can’t.
Like you did with me and the slurs of anti-Catholicism?
Evos sure project a lot.
Speaking of writing checks that you can't cash.
There are several comments you made that I requested sources that you provide to back up your comments. Where are the sources? Having trouble finding them?
“’I should have thought it the greatest heresy to doubt his firm belief in Christianity. His life, his writings, prove that he was a Christian. He was not one of those who act or pray, “that they may be seen of men” ‘ - Nelly Custis-Lewis, granddaughter of George Washington”
Your post... “He was not one of those who act or pray” Thanks for proving my point””
Geez... you have no morals. You even took that quote out of context.
In my book, you’re right up there with the likes of Natural Law/Buck W.
Done as well.
God bless.
GG
“So - believe in creationism - as faith.....leave the science to the folks who know what they are doing.”
You don’t mean like this, do you?
Studies examine withholding of scientific data among researchers, trainees
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1565120/posts
It May Look Authentic; Here’s How to Tell It Isn’t
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1563746/posts
Most scientific papers are probably wrong
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1473528/posts
Most Science Studies Appear to Be Tainted By Sloppy Analysis
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1896333/posts
Why Most Published Research Findings Are False
http://medicine.plosjournals.org/perlserv/?request=get-document&doi=10.1371/journal.pmed.0020124&ct=1
I refuse to aknowledge those guys anymore. Life is to short to sweat the little minds.
The only source the guy has is the urban dictionary... I’ve never seen a source either.
God bless you, my friend. There are some good folks on here and you’re way at the top of the list of good folks.
GG
I'll provide sources and answers when you do. I have at least a half a dozen outstanding requests to you over the last week that have been ignored. The ball is in your court.
“You don’t mean like this, do you?”
Make your point with excerpts from your links......in the ones I checked there was a happy ending, scientifically speaking in each one.
It's not hard to set up on a remote server either.
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