Posted on 10/17/2009 4:12:17 AM PDT by RightSideNews
Lord Monckton is one of the few people who has thorough familiarity with a recently completed draft of the treaty President Obama will sign in Copenhagen in just a matter of weeks. He does not mince words about what he has found in the course of his reading of the document. The treaty is not just a foot in the door for one-world government. It IS communist, one-world government. And because of the high regard in which our Constitution holds foreign treaties, this document, if ratified by Congress, would supercede the Constitution. The treaty will, of course, be signed under the banner of coming together internationally to "save the environment" through the reduction of carbon emissions. Except, oh dear, cat's out of the bag...global warming is a giant lie................
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Yes, the usurpers have been able to get Unconstitutional laws enacted and enforced. But the last thing we should ever do is acquiesce to such usurpation, or fail to name the perpetrators as the treasonous scum they are.
Maybe. To be fair we would need to look at the long term. It's likely that we did a decent amount of damage in the getting there phase, so it may take some time for the net to be a gain.
But we also get to claim some credit. Cleaner technologies and the like that came out of our development can be utilized by developing nations, so we can make the claim that we have offset some of the damage they would have done, but no longer need to.
We CAN'T stop Obummer from signing the darn thing, BUT we CAN stop senate ratification, thus killing it.
Treaties SHALL be the SUPREME LAW of the land.
While not superseding the constitution, it is nearly equal to and certainly supersedes congress. I would rank a treaty one small step below an amendment. In other words, I think treaties carry a lot of weight and are to be feared as a way to steal power from the people and their representatives.
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NOWHERE in the Constitution does it say that treaties supersede the Constitution. The Constitution for the United States is the SUPREME law of the land and NOTHING supersedes it. Treaties are more or less on a par with federal law, but ALL MUST CONFORM to the Constitution. Don’t you think the Founders had that one figured out??? That one day some Congress or President might want to do through a treaty what he couldn’t do through the Constitution??? Our Constitution says in Article VI that “This Constitution, and the laws of the United States which shall be made in pursuance thereof, and all treaties made, or which shall be made, under the authority of the United States, shall be the supreme law of the land; and the judges in every State shall be bound thereby, anything in the constitution or laws of any State to the contrary notwithstanding.” So any law or treaty MUST BE MADE IN PURSUANCE OF (or conformance to) THE CONSTITUTION. So no treaty can be made which abrogates our rights or grants government more power than is allowed them by the Constitution. If they try? Well, We, the People, are still their employers and we do hold the last argument (The reset button, the Second Amendment).
No, treaties do NOT supersede Congress. They must be ratified by the Senate, but they are the third item mentioned in Article VI, which is about the level of importance the Founders put on them. The do NOT have any real effect until or unless enabling legislation is passed by Congress and of course THAT may not exceed the specific authorities granted to Congress by the Constitution.
Does the One plan to have the Senate approve it, or does he just intend to dispense with that requirement?
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I believe you would.
I’ve never found occasion to disagree with your thinkin’.
Likewise ma.
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In another time, even, perhaps, quite recently, that might've been true. It is no longer an operative truism, in my opinion.
What do you think the various stimulus bills were all about? Where do you think that money has gone? Quite apart from your run-of-the-mill daily doses of vice, venality, graft and corruption that these scoundrels (and worse) partake of, things have been rearranged on the deck of the Titanic to insure continued operability regardless (or perhaps because of) of circumstances or personnel.
For the Left (and that includes the apparatus that purports to govern us), this is their perceived end-game. They feel they have the numbers, power and influence to pull this off, and the money angle is deemed their ultimate social lubricant to make sure that the proper skids have been greased properly.
No, the Dems aren't particularly worried about their current/future lot in life, at least politically. The current situation is win/win for them. Should the populace remain docile enough, why it's no problem, and certainly no water off their backs. On the other hand, should things deteriorate and go south, they'll be gone faster than a $100 bill within easy reach of a hooker.
Remember, we here on this board are the well-informed, and our numbers are relatively small in the overall scheme of things, although I hope those numbers are increasing due to the current state of affairs. To be successful, should circumstances dictate an alternative approach to political realities, we'd have to reach a critical mass of 35% - 40% of the adult population before we can even begin to think of success.
In this instance, our enemy isn't really the left, it's the institutional torpor of "the middle" that has to be overcome. And that may be most difficult to accomplish, as that political mass rarely, if ever, is moved to action by anything but the most extreme antagonism.
The current Mafioso may indeed provide the stimulus (!) for such antagonism, but until such time as it shows promise of manifesting, it's presumptuous to feel that way, or rely on it.
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Your statements are well taken as well as also confirmed in my mind. I just threw out a remote possibility.
I think are right on target. Revolution, but it is hard to imagine exactly how it will take place.
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