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Sarah Palin vs. The Neocons
Texas for Sarah Palin ^ | Saturday, October 3, 2009 at 10:33 PM | Josh Painter

Posted on 10/04/2009 12:13:44 PM PDT by Josh Painter

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To: Josh Painter

Sarah can win as a conservative Republican who believes government’s primary role is to preserve liberty and allow free people to prosper with as little hindrance from government as possible. She will go nowhere as a Libertarian. I know the left is desperate to split the Republican Party before 2012, and run an independent, Perot style, but beating Obama is too important a political goal for conservatives and Libertarians to allow that to happen. The only split I want to see happen is having pro American Democrats break from the NeoCom Bolsheviks that have taken over their party. Sarah is smart enough to know that the majority of Republicans are not of McCain’s ilk. Getting swept up in the myth of the Demopub/Republicrat, all party politics are the same nonsense is not something Sarah should do.


41 posted on 10/04/2009 1:41:53 PM PDT by pallis
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To: Josh Painter
Some libertarians are still not comfortable with Palin,

Why? Doesn't Sarah support legalizing drugs for all the freakin' potheads?

42 posted on 10/04/2009 1:42:17 PM PDT by upsdriver
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To: hiram569
Republicans are not doing anyone a favor by piling on with Demoncrats to trash Sarah Palin.

Actually, I believe the piling on by the mean spirited RINOs strengthens Sarah Palin's appeal with real America. A Republican candidate who isn't liked by the people who screwed up this country has a helluva lot to offer, imo.

43 posted on 10/04/2009 1:51:52 PM PDT by upsdriver
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To: MNJohnnie
Johnnie, why don't you read the fricking article instead of jerking your knee.

Nobody said Reagan was a libertarian. However, he recognized how crucial libertarians were and how much influence they had on conservatives. Think of libertarianism as the skeleton of a human body, and conservatism the muscle.

Palin is not going to go around and foam at the mouth on the drug war, porn, pot, etc. Reducing the size and scope of government and fighting wars only when necessary are issues that libertarians and conservatives can agree with.

Do you want to win or not?

44 posted on 10/04/2009 2:01:15 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (90% of the fedgov is unconstitutional. The other 10% besides the military doesnt know what it's doin)
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To: Freddd
She’s closer the the Founding Father’s principles than anything we’ve seen in decades in this country.

And that is precisely why the communist left and the global communist RINOs are teaming up to trash her.

Sarah is on the side of We the People; they are not.

45 posted on 10/04/2009 2:04:10 PM PDT by meadsjn
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To: MNJohnnie
I think this fascination with Libertarianism is merely political nihilism.

Again Johnnie, you are not understanding the context of the thread.
Nobody is talking about Libertarianism, the Libertarian Party, or the stereotypes and misconceptions that are associated with Libertarianism.
The coalition that propelled Reagan to two landslides were a mixture of social conservatives, fiscal and small-gov't conservatives (i.e. libertarians) and national security hawks.

All Palin is doing is reuniting that coalition.

46 posted on 10/04/2009 2:06:19 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (90% of the fedgov is unconstitutional. The other 10% besides the military doesnt know what it's doin)
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To: filbert
The LP is way too concerned with intellectual purity and way too unconcerned with actually winning elections.

The LP has absolutely nothing to do with what Governor Palin is trying to accomplish.

47 posted on 10/04/2009 2:10:00 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (90% of the fedgov is unconstitutional. The other 10% besides the military doesnt know what it's doin)
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To: Josh Painter

It is truly stunning to see so many “conservatives” rally around Sarah Palin for her speeches. Her record as a conservative is spotted with pet boondoggle projects and quitting her governorship early. Admittedly, she gives good speeches and says things our Republican leaders don’t have the cajones to say, but that doesn’t make her the equivalent of Reagan. Reagan had a long career of fighting for conservatism before he became governor of a state with an economy that rivals most nations, and he didn’t quit early. As for Sarah Palin giving neo-cons the finger...she’s apparently taking foreign policy advice from Trent Lott and John McCain’s foreign policy advisor, Randy Scheunenemann. So much for that theory. Sarah Palin is good at what she’s done lately - speak, but criminy, let’s keep it in perspective. I reserve the right to revise and extend my remarks if she throws McCain under the bus in “Going Rogue,” though.


48 posted on 10/04/2009 2:19:50 PM PDT by Nephi ( Bush legacy: "I had to sacrifice free market principles to save the free market.")
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To: Mr. Blonde

yes, you are correct. He doesn’t know what he’s talking about. Happens a lot when libertarianism is brought up on FR.


49 posted on 10/04/2009 2:20:01 PM PDT by cdcdawg
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To: cdcdawg
It’s really pretty simple on one level: the government should do those things it can do more efficiently than the market, and leave everything else alone.

That is perfectly in line with Adam Smith's view in The Wealth of Nations of the proper functions of government in a capitalist society.

Unfortunately, over the past couple of decades, the RINOs have sold their economic souls to the ghosts of David Ricardo, the hypocrite who preached Free Trade, all the while manipulating markets to enrich himself and buy himself a seat in Parliament. His policies devastated the British economy for much of the 1800s, and now the US economy is plunging toward the abyss for exactly the same reasons.

50 posted on 10/04/2009 2:21:25 PM PDT by meadsjn
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
The LP has absolutely nothing to do with what Governor Palin is trying to accomplish.

Agree whole-heartedly. If the LP'ers pull their noses out of Atlas Shrugged long enough to actually help out a bit, it would be nice, but I certainly wouldn't count on them. Ditto the Paulians.

We can argue amongst ourselves later, after the collectivists are turned back. It really is "us vs. them" right now. We need all the "us" we can get.

51 posted on 10/04/2009 2:24:14 PM PDT by filbert (More filbert at http://www.medary.com--I've gone rogue!)
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To: MNJohnnie

If you know the difference between libertarianism and anarchism, it is not evident from your posts. The rule of law is essential to libertarian philosophy. Without it there is no protection of property, no enforcement of contract. You are fighting a straw man.


52 posted on 10/04/2009 2:32:59 PM PDT by cdcdawg
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To: Josh Painter

bfl


53 posted on 10/04/2009 2:50:10 PM PDT by shield (A wise man's heart is at his RIGHT hand;but a fool's heart at his LEFT. Ecc 10:2)
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To: Josh Painter; filbert
I've started noticing the term "Liberty Conservatives" and even "Liberty Republicans" used to describe small "l" libertarian-leaning conservatism. That way you don't have to waste time getting into a whole argument about the differences between "Libertarian" and "libertarian".

Personally, I like the sound of it.

54 posted on 10/04/2009 3:44:13 PM PDT by Bokababe (Save Christian Kosovo! http://www.savekosovo.org)
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To: Josh Painter

Sarah’s view on the war agains the IslamOfascists is the same as Bill Kristol, John Bolton, and other good Americans.

Ron Paul thinks Ahmadinejad and a nuclear Iran is no threat and we are looking for the boogie man so he says.

Thank goodness Sarah Palin is not in this libertarian - left wing progressive camp of cut and run.


55 posted on 10/04/2009 3:52:48 PM PDT by SoCalPol (Reagan Republican for Palin 2012)
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To: Freddd

“She’s closer the the Founding Father’s principles than anything we’ve seen in decades in this country.”

Bingo! Worth repeating, IMO.

Interested groups will try to identify her, making it easier to associate her with the errors of a particular group.

As she said in her final gubernatorial speech, she is supportive of candidates; dem, rep, or indy who are are the ‘right side’ of positions on the issues. Thus, neo-cons, RINOS, and lefty dems are filling their pants at the thought of her growing popularity. I love it.


56 posted on 10/04/2009 3:57:02 PM PDT by FreeStateYank (I want my country and constitution back, now!)
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To: MNJohnnie

think this fascination with Libertarianism is merely political nihilism....

Your post#26 was Spot On

Sarah Palin is a Conservative Republican, lives in the world of Reality not theory and wishful thinking as the
cut and run libertarians.


57 posted on 10/04/2009 4:07:02 PM PDT by SoCalPol (Reagan Republican for Palin 2012)
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To: Josh Painter

Nice piece, Josh! I agree 100%!


58 posted on 10/04/2009 5:19:07 PM PDT by Virginia Ridgerunner (Sarah Palin has crossed the Rubicon!)
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To: MNJohnnie
It is a doctrine for comfortably middle class self absorbed single males, not serious adult minds.

You are soooooo wrong!

59 posted on 10/04/2009 5:20:10 PM PDT by Virginia Ridgerunner (Sarah Palin has crossed the Rubicon!)
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To: chris37

I believe the ranks of independence have grown considerably. They are sick of both democrates and republicans. We’re waiting and watching, we know what we want and they will know to if they oppose the will of the people.


60 posted on 10/04/2009 6:12:03 PM PDT by ronnie raygun (The tree of liberty..........)
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