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To: rxsid; Fred Nerks; null and void; stockpirate; george76; PhilDragoo; Candor7; GOPJ; BP2; ...

FIRST of all, this shows that Fukino HAS purposefully been hiding information from public requests. Keep digging at that wound, Leo.

Second of all, I'm sensing there's something VERY SIGNIFICANT from Leo's Blog:

I thought it was very odd that Okubo included the marriage index information in her response to KingsKid’s very specific request for President Obama’s index data. Specifically, I was confused as to why Okubo’s response would list “Bride” and “Groom” in Obama’s index file instead of “Mother” and “Father”.

Okubo’s response to KingsKid gives the impression that the names of Obama’s parents are included in that response – but it doesn’t have them listed as parents.

The Dept of Health (not the Judiciary) maintains Marriage certificates in Hawaii. NO SEARCH by researchers and private investigators has EVER shown it to exist. There's not even a header or index of an Obama marriage record -- unless they've been hiding that index data too!

The words "BRIDE" and "GROOM" do not appear on any Hawaiian Birth Certificate.


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And more importantly ... even if that information comes from the "Department of the Judiciary" (Family Courts of Hawaii),
Divorce Records do not list the parties as "BRIDE" and "GROOM" in Hawaii.

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... WHY would data that would include the words "Bride" and "Groom" involve the Department of Justice in the first place ... unless something like an Adoption and/or Name Change took place?


57 posted on 10/02/2009 1:58:55 PM PDT by BP2 (I think, therefore I'm a conservative)
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To: BP2

You are a Class A researcher. :-)


59 posted on 10/02/2009 2:04:10 PM PDT by Red Steel
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I don’t know about Hawaii but in Calif. you can search the index by groom or bride in case you don’t know both or just maiden name. Also Calif marriages are public except for those that request a Confidential marriage and pay like $50 extra and it is kept confidential.

I suppose there might well be a Honolulu Advertiser, Star Bulletin Notice for the Dunham Obama marriage application, unless they requested it not be released....would like to see that one-anyone? Sacramento has copies of the newspaper in the State Library.


63 posted on 10/02/2009 2:11:34 PM PDT by rolling_stone (no more bailouts, the taxpayers are out of money!)
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To: BP2
WHY would data that would include the words "Bride" and "Groom" involve the Department of Justice in the first place ... unless something like an Adoption and/or Name Change took place?

Very interesting.....Why would marriage information of Stanley Ann and Sr. be included in Barry's vital records? Is the DOH looking at their vital records or is the marriage certificate part of Barry's vital records because of an adoption.......I guess I need to read Leo's blog. ;) Great post as always BP2.
76 posted on 10/02/2009 2:20:16 PM PDT by Electric Graffiti (Yonder stands your orphan with his gun)
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I find it very odd that Okubo can’t seem to correctly spell: Dunham.


79 posted on 10/02/2009 2:24:37 PM PDT by Velveeta
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To: BP2

FYI from Leo’s blog comments:

loucon Says:

October 2, 2009 at 2:31 pm
This seems to be in conflict.

From: Okubo, Janice S.
To: [KingsKid - real name redacted]
Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 8:29 PM
Subject: RE: Clarificatio, Please
Aloha..,
I am sorry; I may have misunderstood your request. The “bride” and “groom” index data is from Stanley Ann Dunahm and Barack Hussein Obama index files.
The Department of Health does not hold divorce records, they are with the Department of Judiciary.

On the website: http://hawaii.gov/health/vital-records/vital-records/index.html
Vital records (birth, death, marriage, and divorce certificates) for events that occurred in Hawaii are received and preserved by the Office of Health Status Monitoring, a unit of the Department of Health. In Hawaii, access to vital records is restricted by statute (HRS §338-18).

dictum ac factum.
loucon

[ed. what the hell? geez. this is just too weird. we’re looking into it. thanks for pointing that one out.]


There’s no ends they will not go to, to cover for zero.


85 posted on 10/02/2009 2:34:15 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum)
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To: BP2
Every week we get closer and closer. Soon we will get the whole thing.
118 posted on 10/02/2009 3:25:04 PM PDT by Candor7 (The effective weapons against Fascism are ridicule, derision, and truth (Member NRA)
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I dug out a couple of family marriage certificates to check:

Nevada: no listing of "bride" or "groom" -- names of the parties only

Pennsylvania: no listing of "bride" or "groom -- names of the parties only

If not even a marriage certificate lists "bride" and "groom" and these labels are not found anywhere on a Hawaiian birth certificate, then I don't know what Fukino is trying to communicate.

155 posted on 10/02/2009 7:58:53 PM PDT by thecodont
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To: BP2

Woah!

BP2 for President!


176 posted on 10/02/2009 10:15:02 PM PDT by BonRad (As Rome goes so goes the world)
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To: BP2
FIRST of all, this shows that Fukino HAS purposefully been hiding information from public requests...

Leo's new post....OKUBO CAUGHT AGAIN: Admits Providing False Information Regarding DoH Maintenance Of Divorce Records.
276 posted on 10/03/2009 4:41:22 PM PDT by Electric Graffiti (Yonder stands your orphan with his gun)
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