DoH Reverses Course – Releases Index Data For President Obama, Stanley Ann and Barack, Sr

Natural Born Citizen ^ | October 2, 2009 | Leo Donofrio

[crosstimbers]

The Hawaii Department of Health has reversed course. They now admit that they do - in fact – make some vital records information available to the public. This admission reverses their prior response pattern indicating that “no information” could be released.

[RummyChick]

You don’t have to believe he was married. I do .

UK law would not confer UK citizenship on Obama. It was a VOID marriage. UK border Agency has documents that specifically address this issue and void marriages.

[RummyChick]

that’s a different argument. Leo Donofrio is claiming that Obama’s citizenship makes a difference. Your argument is that his father’s makes a difference.

No one knows what makes a difference.

[OafOfOffice]

That’s probably the most important piece here ,, Maya was definately born outside the USA and she does have a COLB from Hawaii and no record exists for her in this index

I haven't seen Maya's colb.You are right, very interesting.

[RummyChick]

you are right..it was a fill in the blank document

[RummyChick]

Not in the eyes of UK immigration law.

[El Gato]

OK , so you make your phone call and give the information necessary to fill in a COLB form (even though it isn’t going onto that paper form directly) and that creates a (computerized? which in 196x would mean a punched card) data record from which a paper COLB can be generated upon request ,, not the paper COLB itself; not much of a distinction.

Not at all. You'd have to fill out the original form, just as a Certification of Live Birth is filled out. A home birth still goes on the Certificate oLB, as does a delayed birth. A Certificate of Hawaiian Birth is a different form. But in '61 those would have been "stored" on Microfilm or MicroFich. It would take several punch cards to hold the information that is on the abtract. (remembering that the standard punch card was 80 characters.

WND had a good article detailing the ways to get such a "source document" in 1961.

Keep in mind that the information on the COLB had not been verified. Just the birth location listed on the source document, which may, or may not, have been fraudulently filed.

[OafOfOffice]

Wait a minute. You might be on to something. Maybe the bride and groom is soetoro. Not obama sr.

[Electric Graffiti]

The “bride” and “groom” index data is from Stanley Ann Dunahm and Barack Hussein Obama index files.

Thanks for that update. More smoke screens from the DOH.

[OafOfOffice]

I was not able to get a marriage license even in another county. Married in Tahoe and had to get license in that county I forget. Counties make money on these licenses. One of the reason gay marriage rights people use, it brings in money.

But maybe laws have changed. I don’t know for sure.

[Red Steel]

this is a TRIBAL MARRIAGE in Kenya in the 60s...well probably 50s.

Get Kenyan official(s) to stipulate to the fact and prove that Obama Sr, was married. Otherwise, Hawaii or any other state is not going to take any action to nullify the marriage of a deceased couple and not without other compelling reasons to do so.

[STARWISE]

It doesn’t matter if I believe it or not.
I happen to believe it.

My point being, in the 60’s, a world away,
the HI officials would have no clue and
would just accept their word and issue
the license.

So, in their government records, there could
be an official license recorded.

That’s their official knowledge and perception.

In reality, years after the fact, we would know
it’s illegal and he was in fact a bigamist, if
there was an official recorded marriage in Kenya,
but the records in HI don’t reflect that until
something triggers the change/modification with
new legal findings and a court order.

It doesn’t happen magically just because we’re
putting 2+2 together and getting 4.

[STARWISE]

From Donofrio’s site:

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Melinda Says:
October 2, 2009 at 1:10 pm

Is he really this brazen, daring folks to challenge him ? This
was prepared text.

At the Olympic presentation, he said … “including my father
from the African continent.”

Scroll to the 1:13 mark

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r84lkFwXenc

That’s some hubris.

http://naturalborncitizen.wordpress.com/2009/10/01/terrik-investigation-part-3-hawaii-ag-mark-bennett-approved-fukinos-natural-born-citizen-statement-all-records-should-be-made-public-according-to-law/#comment-12968

[Neidermeyer]

Keep in mind that the information on the COLB had not been verified. *********************************************************

That was more or less my point ,, the information came from one (unverified) source ... Ask me someday about selling a 2510 card punch/reader in the 1980's for scrap and having to buy a replacement for it (at a cost of $15,000) a week later when legal found we needed one for a contract that was long forgotten.

[El Gato]

Furthermore, it is UK immigration law that is relevant here.

Only if it matters if Junior was a British Subject at birth. If what matters is that his legal father was not a US Citizen, then it's Hawaii law that matters. In fact as long as BHO Sr is listed on the BC it likely doesn't matter if they were legally married or not. The BC doesn't even show that information. Of course it's possible that "father's name" is blank.

[Neidermeyer]

No one knows what makes a difference.

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I see the only point worth noting is that you can't be a NBC if both your parents aren't US Citizens (natural or naturalized ) no matter where you are born THAT IS BEYOND DISPUTE ... I don't see any reason to make this any more complicated than that, and for our teams TV/RADIO/Congressional/popular impeachment crusade the message needs to be simple and clear.

[curiosity]

if both your parents aren't US Citizens (natural or naturalized ) no matter where you are born THAT IS BEYOND DISPUTE ...

The Supreme Court disagrees with you.

[curiosity]

It is not a VOIDABLE marriage. IT IS A VOID MARRIAGE. There is a difference.

Yes, but you still have to prove it is void. A marraige that is legally registerd is presumed valid unless proven void.

[Candor7]

Every week we get closer and closer. Soon we will get the whole thing.

[Vendome]

Hmm... I like this conspiracy, it is the only one I have ever entertained because well, it is entertaining.

So let me ask this; If BO, Sr. had to prove paternity to the UK maybe there is a BC of different geographic and Nationality origin?

Of course, we have no proof, then again, there is no proof of Barry O.’s authenticity.

BTW, you keep using big attorney words, are you an attorney?

Thanks for your posts.

[Vendome]

The Obama’s word?

Link please.

Thanks.