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New case to demand evidence of Hawaiian birth
WorldNetDaily ^ | SEPTEMBER 22, 2009 | Bob Unruh

Posted on 09/22/2009 3:45:56 PM PDT by RobinMasters

The chief of Hawaii's Department of Health twice has issued statements trying to convince doubters that President Barack Obama was born in the state, and now those words may backfire if a new legal challenge that is being developed comes to fruition.

Leo Donofrio, who brought one of the first legal challenges to Obama's eligibility to be president and unsuccessfully tried to get the U.S. Supreme Court to get involved at the time of the election, is reporting on his website that Hawaiian state law requires "information collected and maintained for the purpose of making information available to the general public" be released.

It was in July that Chiyome Fukino issued a statement on the subject of Obama's birth:

"I, Dr. Chiyome Fukino, Director of the Hawaii State Department of Health, have seen the original vital records maintained on file by the Hawaii State Department of Health verifying Barack Hussein Obama was born in Hawai‘i and is a natural-born American citizen. I have nothing further to add to this statement or my original statement issued in October 2008 over eight months ago."

It was in 2008 at the time of the election she stated:

"There have been numerous requests for Sen. Barack Hussein Obama’s official birth certificate. State law (Hawaii Revised Statutes §338-18) prohibits the release of a certified birth certificate to persons who do not have a tangible interest in the vital record.

"Therefore, I as Director of Health for the State of Hawai‘i, along with the Registrar of Vital Statistics who has statutory authority to oversee and maintain these type of vital records, have personally seen and verified that the Hawaii State Department of Health has Sen. Obama’s original birth certificate on record in accordance with state policies and procedures.

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To: curiosity

This won't be the first, nor the last time a birther cried wolf.

Nor the first or last time an Obot trolled as a FReeper...


41 posted on 09/23/2009 1:12:50 PM PDT by BP2 (I think, therefore I'm a conservative)
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To: BP2
-Did Obama register for the draft?
42 posted on 09/23/2009 1:21:48 PM PDT by hoosiermama (ONLY DEAD FISH GO WITH THE FLOW.......I am swimming with Sarahcudah! Sarah has read the tealeaves.)
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To: elcid1970; Gargantua
Grade school teacher couldn't figure out why it was taking me so long to read Canterbury Tales, until she realized I was translating it from the old English.

As a child I preferred spending time with my parents and their friends....Kids my own age were boring......And we all meet together on the web because others just don't understand.....

43 posted on 09/23/2009 1:46:43 PM PDT by hoosiermama (ONLY DEAD FISH GO WITH THE FLOW.......I am swimming with Sarahcudah! Sarah has read the tealeaves.)
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To: hoosiermama

I thought the Canterbury Tales were written in Middle English which is considered the intermediate transition from Old English, a foreign language, and Shakespearean Modern English.

Anyway, I read Chaucer in a Modern English version.


44 posted on 09/23/2009 5:06:50 PM PDT by elcid1970 ("O Muslim! My bullets are lubricated in pig grease!")
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To: MHGinTN
LOL No wonder Phil Berg dug up Maya’s HI CoLB and entered it into the records of one of his suits!

Which suit? Should be pretty easy to find this official state document that says she was born in Hawaii despite being born in Indonesia on the internet if Berg entered it into the public record as evidence.

Just point me in the right direction. I've scoured the internet and I can't find any actual evidence that Maya Soetoto-Ng has a birth certificate that lists "Hawaii" as her place of birth.

45 posted on 09/23/2009 5:30:36 PM PDT by Drew68
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To: curiosity

How’s that Pinko gang doing up there in Seattle?


46 posted on 09/23/2009 5:45:14 PM PDT by mojitojoe (Socialism is just the last “feel good” step on the path to Communism and its slavery. Lenin)
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To: BP2

2nd


47 posted on 09/23/2009 5:46:53 PM PDT by mojitojoe (Socialism is just the last “feel good” step on the path to Communism and its slavery. Lenin)
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To: MHGinTN
It was part of what was sealed in the Brg suit which Obammy’s lawyers pleaqded would be embarrassing if unsealed.

Sure...

I don’t think the actual document has ever been shown on the Internet.

Of course...

48 posted on 09/23/2009 6:10:04 PM PDT by Drew68
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To: hoosiermama; All


- Did Obama register for the draft?

Good point. If there's a sealed adoption hiding the original birth certificate, there might be fraud with his Selective Service registration, too, depending on if/when he changed his name BACK from Barry Soetoro to Barack Obama.


49 posted on 09/23/2009 6:22:04 PM PDT by BP2 (I think, therefore I'm a conservative)
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To: BP2
- Did Obama lose his US citizenship after being in Indonesia, after five years or immediately, when accepting his step-father Soetoro's name from an Indonesian marriage in (circa) 1966 (Indonesian law did not permit dual citizenship until 2006)?

Under US law, it doesn't matter what foreign law says, a child can't have his citizenship renounced by his parents, or anyone else.

- Did Obama go through the proper naturalization steps as a child upon re-entry to the US as a child in 1972?

Not neccessary. He was only a first grader when he left, and still in elementary school when he returned.

- Did Obama use an Indonesian passport as an adult, also having implications on his US citizenship (US State Dept Policy)?

Now that is an interesting question. But not as interesting as the question of his father's citizenship and/or his own birthplace

- Did Obama legally change his name back to Barack Hussein Obama II from Barry Soetoro, and IF so, WHEN?

Also an interesting question, but not one bearing directly on his eligibility. However as an indicator of the falseness of the posted COLB, it is one more indicator that something smells mighty fishy around his Certification of Live Birth or whatever "birth record" he has.

50 posted on 09/23/2009 8:25:19 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: vrwc1

Supposedly, the “Constitutionally qualified to be president” statement was missing in both the 2000 and 2004 docs. They are somewhere on the internet. I actually posted the links for them on FR about 2 weeks ago.

BO is still a Usurper, but I think the prior election docs did not include the “Constitutionall qualified” statement”.


51 posted on 09/23/2009 9:11:57 PM PDT by rocco55
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To: BP2
Obot Trolls.




Ohhhhh Obot Trolls, ohh why the futile battle ?
The GOD of Israel will see to it that the truth will be revealed.
Why fight a battle when you know you will lose ?
unless you enjoy losing ?
Come on now, be reasonable, give up now, and just maybe, the GOD of Israel will have mercy on you.
Why the futile fight ? why spend $ 1 million to keep this thing hidden ?
Come on now,
you look ridiculous... the longer you wait to show the BC , the you look guilty.
Come on now, give up, it's a losing battle.
52 posted on 09/23/2009 10:55:57 PM PDT by American Constitutionalist (There is no civility in the way the Communist/Marxist want to destroy the USA)
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To: Red_Devil 232
However, I am going to raise the issue that since Fukino made a public statement about his place of birth, then all records viewed by her for the purposes of making that statement are supposed to be made public under 92F-12(15), information required to be made public.

Terri and Leo need all the records, not just the ones supposedly viewed by her in order to make that public statement. They also need the documents that she ignored, set aside, and buried back into the file that would have led to a different public statement. Unless all the records are opened, there could be a selective release of documents that had been amended to Obama's favor.

53 posted on 09/24/2009 4:45:36 AM PDT by Uncle Chip (TRUTH : Ignore it. Deride it. Allegorize it. Interpret it. But you can't ESCAPE it.)
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To: curiosity
Dear Curiosity, the birther issue is complex.

Normally, one would think a natural born citizen would be born to two US citizens, and live in the USA their entire life. A simple line to follow. Easy to document.

We have a president born to a foreign national, who appears to have claims to three different national citizenship's. A difficult line to follow, especially when he refuses to provide the original documentation, in his possession, that would be required to do so.

Confusion has been his friend, and he promotes it. Not us. We only seek the truth and are mocked and derided for doing so. It will come out.

54 posted on 09/24/2009 4:59:38 AM PDT by PA-RIVER
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To: rocco55
If that's the case:

1. Why were 2 identical documents signed by Pelosi, one with the "Constitutionally qualified" statement and one without?

2. What was the basis for your previous statement regarding "Pelosi’s sworn certification representing that he was Constitutionally qualifed to be president"?

55 posted on 09/24/2009 8:36:32 AM PDT by vrwc1
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To: vrwc1

I do NOT trust Nazi Pelosi or any of the other crimials in DC -—

All I was stating was that the documents for the prior 2 elections did not include Constitutionally qualified phrase.

When I posted the links on FR about 2 weeks ago, several members said that they appeared authentic. I am not defending Pelosi, just making a comment regarding the docs for the prior 2 elections.


56 posted on 09/24/2009 11:03:25 AM PDT by rocco55
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To: RobinMasters

57 posted on 09/24/2009 11:07:51 AM PDT by McGruff (Transparency and the rule of law will be the touchstones of this presidency - Obama)
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To: BP2

” Did Obama use an Indonesian passport as an adult, also having implications on his US citizenship (US State Dept Policy)? “

I wonder what passport Obama used when he moved to Indonesia in the early 1990s with Michelle for “ several months “ ?
I wonder why no one in the media has bothered to ask him what they were doing in Indonesia during that time...


58 posted on 09/24/2009 11:32:32 AM PDT by Wild Irish Rogue
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To: RobinMasters
SEIU = ACORN = Gleichschaltung

Main Fringe Media = Gleichschaltung

Liberal Universities and Collages = Gleichschaltung

Liberal News Papers = Gleichschaltung

The new Zcars that Obama is selecting = Gleichschaltung

The Nation Teachers Unions = Gleichschaltung

The NEA = Gleichschaltung

Are you reading this RUSH ?? GLENN ?? MICHELLE ??
59 posted on 09/24/2009 1:10:18 PM PDT by American Constitutionalist (There is no civility in the way the Communist/Marxist want to destroy the USA)
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To: rocco55
In post 13 you said:
I believe that Fukino made the statement that Obama was a ‘natural born citizen’ on the basis of Pelosi’s sworn certification representing that he was Constitutionally qualifed to be president.

Where is this "sworn certification" from Pelosi that you speak of?

60 posted on 09/24/2009 5:09:37 PM PDT by vrwc1
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