Posted on 09/21/2009 5:37:18 PM PDT by rxsid
Pending Litigation: Hawaii Confirms That Obama’s Vital Records Have Been Amended.
I will be assisting one of my readers in filing litigation in Hawaii state circuit court pursuant to her ongoing request for public information denied by Hawaii officials. (Readers of my blog will recognize her as MissTickly aka TerriK.)Correspondence sent to TerriK by Hawaii officials indicates that President Obama’s vital records have been amended and official records pertaining thereto are maintained by the state of Hawaii.
I will issue a full statement and press release on behalf of TerriK via this blog in the days ahead. This statement will include a complete history of correspondence between TerriK and Hawaii state officials in the Office of Information Practices (OIP) and the Department of Health (DoH).
[snip]STANDING
TerriK has standing to pursue this action under the statute. The UIPA manual states:
“Any person” may make a request for government records under part II, the Freedom of Information section of the UIPA. “Person” is defined broadly to include an individual, government agencies, partnerships and any other legal entities.
Under part II, a government agency generally may not limit access to public records based on who the requester is or the proposed use of the record.
You are totally missing the LEGITIMACY REQUIREMENT. Do more research if you don’t understand. You can start with the info that discusses legitimacy from the UK border agency on my profile.
For months people on this site claimed that Obama couldn’t be a citizen if born in Kenya do to residency requirements of Ann and her age. They did not recognize that the provision that kept getting quoted needed a MARRIAGE...there was another provision for unwed mothers.
So it turns on how immigration law would view a VOID marriage. There are cases the deal with bigamists in immigration law.
I am not going to presume how this would shake out. No one here knows. You can discuss Vattel until you are blue in the face. You can discuss the founding fathers. You can discuss it and turn it every which way..but you STILL don’t know how it would shake out.
As long as Obama is a US citizen..he is in the game for a determination.
It’s all getting kind of scary to me.
A child born abroad out-of-wedlock to a U.S. citizen mother may acquire U.S. citizenship under Section 301(g) INA, as made applicable by Section 309(c) INA if the mother was a U.S. citizen at the time of the child's birth, and if the mother had previously been physically present in the United States or one of its outlying possessions for a continuous period of one year." http://travel.state.gov/law/info/info_609.html
Can you, or anyone here, provide the proof that Barry's mother was physically present in the US (or possession) for a continues period of one year prior to birth?
Sorry Lmo56, forgot to include you.
Your point is moot because you dont see me claim he is or is not an NBC. I said it is POSSIBLE that he would be declared an NBC if born in Kenya to an unwed mother. I did not say a court would do it or that it was even probable. I said it is POSSIBLE.
Frankly, I believe no case will ever make it that far.
It does not say right before birth.
It says one year for a continuous period. That period could be when she was 12 or 1.
You need to find case law that addresses and says it has to be the prior year..or the prior 5 years..or whatever...
That statute reads...anytime...
Personally, I don’t have a problem believing she was in the US for a period of one year at some time during her life.
Lotsa folks don’t have nice things to say about her.
I contend that your point is moot. One can not be a Natural Born Citizen if they must rely upon "man's" laws (i.e. statue) to obtain NBC 'status.'
For those that STILL don’t understand the importance of marriage back in the day, you can read this act.
http://www.opsi.gov.uk/RevisedStatutes/Acts/ukpga/1976/cukpga_19760031_en_1
Btw, British subjects are not the same thing as citizens.
Indeed it does. Assuming overseas birth, to an unwed mother, he would be a "citizen."
Show me the exact quote in a Supreme Court case as law of the land that you are using to come to that conclusion.
Exactly! How could they be? Right?
Which is why, therefore, that Law of Nations makes for a far more logical source for the definition of the term "Natural Born Citizen" than does Common law.
I never said it did.
I would like to see that, and I guess that many here also would like to see that. So please post the valid source here for your claims!!!
Barry entered Occidental college in 1979, the year before his mother filed for divorce, so he was still legally Barry Soetoro when he entered Occi and was still Barry Soetoro when his mother filed for divorce, and may have remained legally Barry Soetoro until amending his own vital records in 1988! He is not just a lying sack of crap, he is a fraud, too!
The point related to his Constitutional eligibility is that if he used his Indo citizenship entering college and applying for tuition and or passport, he cannot claim natural born citizenship in the U.S. to be eleigible for the office he sits because re-upping his American citizenship would be by statute then, not natural born.
Well, some have claimed that Stanley was TOO pregnant to be allowed entering the air liner going back to Hawaii???
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